Balme

[George Kramer]

There's been comments like this.....

"people didn’t like Olsen because of his political affiliations, and most of all they remember him at the SANFL reaming us on every negotiation

turns out he’s just really, really good. And now he’s on our side we’re just starting to get a sense of why we lost every negotiation against him

Olsen is an original gangster. He’s just really fricking good. Quality. Only he’s on our side now

heck he’s only been here 5 mins and look at the impact

he’s proper bad ass "

There's other comments like this and your likes are all over them, but hey no one was talking him up.

Quote them and the context, what were those comments in relation to?

Now quote the posts against his appointment.

As for being an original gangster, given he’s executed Roos removal, reckon that poster could be on the money.

So I’ve had a look at the Olsen appointed thread, for such a staunch supporter of Olsen due to my political allegiances, I contributed 3 posts. One about Hazel still remaining, one about Olsen not being preferred option but spoke better than Chapman and one about the club wanting to get out of West Lakes. 3, that’s it, you? 16. You were frothing at the mouth from the beginning as were a lot of lefties.

Funny how you had issue with Olsen reaming us whilst at the SANFL, well who did he ream? Chapman!

Further reading showed another positive for Olsen, focus to get rid of non-football crap like Esports, another negative for Chapman and a positive for Olsen.

Still think Chapman did better?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Balme will be a phenomenal get in my opinion.

Hopefully he'll be in a role where he can make a real difference.

This was my original point though .....he's not going to be as influential as he would have been in the role muted 3 years ago

Yes, he's a wise head in his analysis of situations .....but do you think he'll be more than maybe 2 days a week involved ? ......and the operational decision-making still rests with Tim Silvers

I think it's become somewhat a bit of folklore that Roo wielded this almighty influence .....he's a fulltime businessman you have to remember ....not a FT Crows employee, which is where Balme could have had the most influence IMHO

 

[Jarman3]

Great appointment. Will be a good person to head up the panel searching for our new coach after we sack Nicks midway through this year.

 

[Mutineer]

This was my original point though .....he's not going to be as influential as he would have been in the role muted 3 years ago

Yes, he's a wise head in his analysis of situations .....but do you think he'll be more than maybe 2 days a week involved ? ......and the operational decision-making still rests with Tim Silvers

I think it's become somewhat a bit of folklore that Roo wielded this almighty influence .....he's a fulltime businessman you have to remember ....not a FT Crows employee, which is where Balme could have had the most influence IMHO

Balmey doesn't seem to me to be the type to be muted,?

 

[Mr_Moogle]

And another lefty. Case closed.

And who was pro Olsen? Reckon it’s been “not ****ing Olsen” vs “leave your lefty bias aside and give him a chance”

Sanders was pro Olsen, told people not to judge him based on his politics. Then Nicks got extended twice and despite disapproving of those decisions, he still avoided directly criticising him. At one point he even came up with a theory that Olsen would have included a clause in Nicks's contract so we could sack him early. Why was he coping so hard?

 

[George Kramer]

Sanders was pro Olsen, told people not to judge him based on his politics. Then Nicks got extended twice and despite disapproving of those decisions, he still avoided directly criticising him. At one point he even came up with a theory that Olsen would have included a clause in Nicks's contract so we could sack him early. Why was he coping so hard?

You’re talking one person.

But for pro Olsen posters to be wrong and to validate your point he has to have sucked arse, as per your claim.

First Nicks re-signing was fair enough, he was always going to get a second contract. Latest re-signing is a shocker.

Balance that with finding us a home, getting rid of Roo, potentially bringing in Balme, getting rid of non-football crap, recruiting Burgess and he has far from sucked arse unless you’re a lefty, you’re a lefty right

 

[Jars458]

What? He’s found us a new home despite a shit load of obstacles. He’s changed our board so we can move on a club legend without bloodshed.

Would a half decent chairman have achieved them? Maybe, but Olsen has and he doesn’t get any credit?

Cmon, clearly Nicks extension is a ****up but discounting what’s he’s achieved is just showing bias, jars bias is clearly political based on his posting, what about you?

Political? Olsen is not a political entity of any sort. He is irrelevant politically. We have had no success. That is what we should be judged on. Removing Roo through a 12-year rule is an achievement? A new home base is a good outcome but it's not one I have been particularly invested in.

 

[George Kramer]

Political? Olsen is not a political entity of any sort. He is irrelevant politically. We have had no success. That is what we should be judged on. Removing Roo through a 12-year rule is an achievement? A new home base is a good outcome but it's not one I have been particularly invested in.

Then why were you so rampant with your criticisms of him when we appointed him

Olsen has been in the job for FOUR years, coming off a wooden spoon, yep he’s been a failure, no success, lol.

First chairman in 34 years to invoke a maximum term for board members, that in itself is a tick, second he’s got rid of a useless club legend without any bloodshed, it’s a brilliant move.

Found us a new home, whether you’re not invested is irrelevant, but odd given how much of a focus it’s been and how important it was.

Got Burgess.

Got rid of esports and other non-football crap.

You never wanted Olsen, wanting him out now has nothing to do with his performance. No success, lol.

 

[SugarShane]

The Adelaide Board has had a lack of football people on it since the Sanders era... & currently too reliant on Roo.

We need board members with more relevant skills & less hanger ons.

We were spoiled with Bill Sanders. Guy was extremely knowledgeable and switched on. So fascinating listening to him on podcasts talking about the inception of our club.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

And another lefty. Case closed.

And who was pro Olsen? Reckon it’s been “not ****ing Olsen” vs “leave your lefty bias aside and give him a chance”

This total BS btw. You claimed that you went back and looked at the original comments from ‘lefties’ but have conveniently ignored people claiming he was the second coming.

 

[relapse]

Chapman? Love how you just conveniently left out Tippetgate, backing in Trigg, Burton, the camp, re-signing Sanderson and Pike having to sack them, WOODEN SPOON, I could go on.

Also find it amusing you’re blaming Olsen for recent years when Chapman left the club with the wooden spoon and Olsen has been left to rebuild the club, no GF in 4 years, Olsens shit.

How long was Chapman the chairman compared to Olsen so far, or course he’s had more time to actually achieve some good. So you’re happy now with the deal Chapman put in place to get our own license or AO?

Jury is still out on Thebby? Yep for lefties.

You seriously need to do better to hide your bias. This last attempt just amplified it.

I've made my feelings on Chapman very well known and was very happy to see the end of him.

I most probably didn't make my point about Chapman clear enough, my point was you could easily make a list of his achievements, but ultimately that still didn't make him a great Chairman.

Of course the jury is still out on Thebarton financially given that it's been suggested that we're potentially going into significant debt to pay for it, it would be foolish to suggest otherwise.

You can't claim it's a success when we don't completely know the long term financial implications for the club. I will feel more content once there's some clarity over how our financial position will look post completion.

If we have to go into significant debt and have to be conservative with our football spend to help service the debt, then yes it's going to be an issue for the club.

What happens if we're left with a 20-30 million debt and have to operate under financial austerity for a decade to help pay off the debt?

On field the cub is floundering under a subpar coach who's on the cusp of overtaking Alan Richardson as having the longest tenure in AFL history by a coach to not make the finals. As Chairman he's overseen, not 1 but 2 questionable extensions to Nicks' contact.

If you want to dismiss all of that by stupidly claiming it's nothing but "lefty bias" then you need to stop complaining about Wayne's stance on Nicks because you're essentially doing the same thing with Olsen.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Balmey doesn't seem to me to be the type to be muted,?

Here's a question ....why didn't Balm accept an active role in the Club .....Footy Director, forget titles, even Rubbish Collectors are called waste disposal managers these days

72, with health issues .....been there, done that .....I can't see there being a real fire in the belly ....hence why he's in the frame for a Directors seat

BTW, what has the member elected bloke achieved since he was elected ??

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Of course the jury is still out on Thebarton financially given that it's been suggested that we're potentially going into significant debt to pay for it, it would be foolish to suggest otherwise.

I'll stand on my POV, Thebarton was last position standing .....not the preferred location

West Lakes was heralded as well, in the early stages ....then all the negatives gradually arrived

Thebarton has never been a great location ....the suburb very average, and public transport (rail) was important, and is a feature of most AFL grounds in VIC

 

[George Kramer]

I've made my feelings on Chapman very well known and was very happy to see the end of him.

I most probably didn't make my point about Chapman clear enough, my point was you could easily make a list of his achievements, but ultimately that still didn't make him a great Chairman.

Of course the jury is still out on Thebarton financially given that it's been suggested that we're potentially going into significant debt to pay for it, it would be foolish to suggest otherwise.

You can't claim it's a success when we don't completely know the long term financial implications for the club. I will feel more content once there's some clarity over how our financial position will look post completion.

If we have to go into significant debt and have to be conservative with our football spend to help service the debt, then yes it's going to be an issue for the club.

What happens if we're left with a 20-30 million debt and have to operate under financial austerity for a decade to help pay off the debt?

On field the cub is floundering under a subpar coach who's on the cusp of overtaking Alan Richardson as having the longest tenure in AFL history by a coach to not make the finals. As Chairman he's overseen, not 1 but 2 questionable extensions to Nicks' contact.

If you want to dismiss all of that by stupidly claiming it's nothing but "lefty bias" then you need to stop complaining about Wayne's stance on Nicks because you're essentially doing the same thing with Olsen.

I’ve given you numerous reasons and explained my position a number of times, so don’t try and put me in the Wayne bracket otherwise I could easily put you in the ABAB bracket.

A new home was always going to cost millions with the delays, the cost of building increasing at rapid rates like all sectors of the economy and the lack of viable alternatives.

That’s where we differ and I can’t help but think it’s because of your left bias. I once asked you what were the alternatives, you said something like “not my job”. That’s just a cop out when you know there were no alternatives. We would never outbid developers, ACC were never going to let us build in the parklands. Thebby was a unique opportunity. So even if we are in debt we were left with no choice.

You’ve always had some paranoia that Olsen screwed whilst he was at the SANFL he would screw us again, it was evident in your posting when Olsen was announced. The fact we ended up at Thebby was “OMG it’s happening”. You’ve lost all sense of reality and perspective over the decision.

As for Nicks, he was always going to get one contract extension, that’s hardly questionable. As for the second one, there’s no excuse, it was a shocking decision. I’ve repeated this a number of times, how many more times do I need to repeat it?

The difference is I can actually acknowledge the good stuff Olsen has done in only 4 years, you won’t. If we don’t make the finals this year and they keep Nicks, then sure, demand Olsen be gone, but now? Cmon.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Here's a question ....why didn't Balm accept an active role in the Club .....Footy Director, forget titles, even Rubbish Collectors are called waste disposal managers these days

72, with health issues .....been there, done that .....I can't see there being a real fire in the belly ....hence why he's in the frame for a Directors seat

BTW, what has the member elected bloke achieved since he was elected ??

Balme expressed interest in having a role with the club... & most of us were surprised when AFC didn't respond at the time... but better late than never.

 

[George Kramer]

This total BS btw. You claimed that you went back and looked at the original comments from ‘lefties’ but have conveniently ignored people claiming he was the second coming.

I posted my response to Moogle prior to going back to the Olsen appointed thread. Suggest you do the same. The criticism of the appointment far outweighs those positive about it. I’ve been accused of my political bias favouring Olsen, look under Crow Envy and I made 3 posts in it, my only comment on Olsen “not preferred option but spoke 100 times better than Chapman”.

So who is speaking BS now?

 

[WeeBlake]

I’ve given you numerous reasons and explained my position a number of times, so don’t try and put me in the Wayne bracket otherwise I could easily put you in the ABAB bracket.

A new home was always going to cost millions with the delays, the cost of building increasing at rapid rates like all sectors of the economy and the lack of viable alternatives.

That’s where we differ and I can’t help but think it’s because of your left bias. I once asked you what were the alternatives, you said something like “not my job”. That’s just a cop out when you know there were no alternatives. We would never outbid developers, ACC were never going to let us build in the parklands. Thebby was a unique opportunity. So even if we are in debt we were left with no choice.

You’ve always had some paranoia that Olsen screwed whilst he was at the SANFL he would screw us again, it was evident in your posting when Olsen was announced. The fact we ended up at Thebby was “OMG it’s happening”. You’ve lost all sense of reality and perspective over the decision.

As for Nicks, he was always going to get one contract extension, that’s hardly questionable. As for the second one, there’s no excuse, it was a shocking decision. I’ve repeated this a number of times, how many more times do I need to repeat it?

The difference is I can actually acknowledge the good stuff Olsen has done in only 4 years, you won’t. If we don’t make the finals this year and they keep Nicks, then sure, demand Olsen be gone, but now? Cmon.

Not everything that happened in past (eg. failed attempt at parklands hq, nicks extension) was inevitable.

Olsen has been better than Chappy for sure, but there are still plenty of legitimate complaints about his tenure.

 

[George Kramer]

Not everything that happened in past (eg. failed attempt at parklands hq, nicks extension) was inevitable.

Olsen has been better than Chappy for sure, but there are still plenty of legitimate complaints about his tenure.

The club put the Aquatic Centre on hold in April 2020, the ACA moved on. At the time there was a lot of angst about the development, the council, resident, parklands association, we thought Thebby was tough, that was nothing had we proceeded with it.

Olsen was appointed late 2020, met with the council, proposed other sites and was told building on the parklands was not going to happen. So how does Olsen cop the blame for it?

As for Nicks second contract extension, no doubt, a major **** up.

To counter that I give you in 4 years:

Thebby and all the obstacles
Got rid of non football business
Changed board tenure so we can move on Roo without bloodshed and controversy
Burgess recruitment
Likely Balme replacing Roo

Do you acknowledge these good things?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Balme expressed interest in having a role with the club... & most of us were surprised when AFC didn't respond at the time... but better late than never.

IIRC Balme had another health episode shortly after, which put paid to those plans at the time .....he always said he was heading home to Sth Aust to retire

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

IIRC Balme had another health episode shortly after, which put paid to those plans at the time .....he always said he was heading home to Sth Aust to retire

No, this was after his latest health scare, not before.

 

[Mutineer]

Here's a question ....why didn't Balm accept an active role in the Club .....Footy Director, forget titles, even Rubbish Collectors are called waste disposal managers these days

72, with health issues .....been there, done that .....I can't see there being a real fire in the belly ....hence why he's in the frame for a Directors seat

BTW, what has the member elected bloke achieved since he was elected ??

Ah so you meant mooted not muted, 2 very different meanings...

 

[Cromulant]

Balme expressed interest in having a role with the club... & most of us were surprised when AFC didn't respond at the time... but better late than never.

He did, but his doctors told him not to do anything new.

 

[George Kramer]

Nah, Kristof will roll in crapping on about 'diverse views' when what he really means is 'the enemy of my enemies is my friend'.

Lol, didn’t take long, read bigmans training reports

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

The club put the Aquatic Centre on hold in April 2020, the ACA moved on. At the time there was a lot of angst about the development, the council, resident, parklands association, we thought Thebby was tough, that was nothing had we proceeded with it.

Olsen was appointed late 2020, met with the council, proposed other sites and was told building on the parklands was not going to happen. So how does Olsen cop the blame for it?

As for Nicks second contract extension, no doubt, a major **** up.

To counter that I give you in 4 years:

Thebby and all the obstacles
Got rid of non football business
Changed board tenure so we can move on Roo without bloodshed and controversy
Burgess recruitment
Likely Balme replacing Roo

Do you acknowledge these good things?

Isn't a bit early to be celebrating Roo leaving? Especially 'without' bloodshed?

 

[George Kramer]

Isn't a bit early to be celebrating Roo leaving? Especially 'without' bloodshed?

No, maximum term limits are in place. He can only receive a maximum of one year extension and it’s been mooted that’s to do a handover with Balme.

What’s the bloodshed going to be over? What’s your concerns?

Given Roos reign of terror is almost over and Olsen brought it about without controversy, what’s your thoughts? First chairman of the club to bring in maximum tenure, good or bad thing?