Bendigo FL discussion 2023

[Forest St End]

Unpopular opinion but I generally consider the off field stuff to be as overrated as coaches are when it comes to success.

Any success on the field elevates the extraneous people involved to higher and higher levels but for the most part I think it is a matter of right place and right time.

Someone brings a few people together and for whatever reason others are in the place to be able to join them. Success comes and so does 1000 fathers.

There’s an awful lot of inflated reputations in footy I reckon.

 

[Forest St End]

For every Boort of 81 & 82 @Forest St End there's a wcyche that beat then in 81 with locals and hardly any money spent.

It certainly does happen, I was part of one in 92 that was probably the cheapest flag ever won in the BFL as well as being one of the greatest teams. Problem was after they achieved the flag half the side set out to make up for lost time in earnings!

I do find myself more and more skeptical these days though, what are considered cheap locals isn’t necessarily that cheap.

 

[harsh. but fair]

Unpopular opinion but I generally consider the off field stuff to be as overrated as coaches are when it comes to success.

Any success on the field elevates the extraneous people involved to higher and higher levels but for the most part I think it is a matter of right place and right time.

Someone brings a few people together and for whatever reason others are in the place to be able to join them. Success comes and so does 1000 fathers.

There’s an awful lot of inflated reputations in footy I reckon.

but at the same time people have to run a club and people have to coach a club.
how a club runs is often passed down from one group to another and the newbies can make their tweaks here and there.
a club which knows how to be successful over a long time will have their troughs, but they return To top or chalkenging sooner rather than later.
maybe that is what culture is?
those who piss, moan each and every year stay stuck in misery.
then they wonder why they’re aren’t attractive.

 

[Forest St End]

but at the same time people have to run a club and people have to coach a club.
how a club runs is often passed down from one group to another and the newbies can make their tweaks here and there.
a club which knows how to be successful over a long time will have their troughs, but they return To top or chalkenging sooner rather than later.
maybe that is what culture is?
those who piss, moan each and every year stay stuck in misery.
then they wonder why they’re aren’t attractive.

Maybe but I’d find that easier to go with if there was an equal playing field to start with so that how individuals performed in roles was a true indicator of success.

To me it is much more likely that clubs with success over a long period of time in country footy have inherent advantages that assist them to maintain that.

 

[harsh. but fair]

Maybe but I’d find that easier to go with if there was an equal playing field to start with so that how individuals performed in roles was a true indicator of success.

To me it is much more likely that clubs with success over a long period of time in country footy have inherent advantages that assist them to maintain that.

Describe equal playing field? Every major league in state inc Bendigo have teams in major centres and those on the periphery. Right now you’d hardly say GV clubs in Shepparton are flying. Wodonga is one of fastest growing cities in VIC yet you’ve got one club this year won its first ovens murray final in over decade and another that continualily struggles. North Albury been ordinary for years but on the up with what locals credit as a very hard working committee and good coach. Up in Sunraysia robinvale-Euston best team all year. Lost grand final coz they had a bad day on GF day. It happens. In Wimmera Ararat played a merged club from Hopetoun & Beulah in gf. No maccas or kfc in those two towns. The days of Horsham demons Dominating well and truly over. Seen how many flags koroit won in hampden league in last decade?

 

[fatkidinthepocket]

I imagine Ash Byrne had a significant hand in the change of outcome and performance.

Good man Ash Byrne, galvanised a devastated Boort to their last premiership. Has been around footy for years and knows how things work.

 

[ROOTA#6]

Still nothing from the huge scandal that was PioLeaks??? Come on you blokes

 

[Forest St End]

Still nothing from the huge scandal that was PioLeaks??? Come on you blokes

I still wanna know if the Slagheads were cheating the cap!

 

[ROOTA#6]

I still wanna know if the Slagheads were cheating the cap!

Apparently not

 

[Crazymaggy2020]

How much does Rochester spend?

The answer is LOTS

Nobody lives there - the pies aren’t that good that gun ex AFL players come back for the love of it


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[Silver Tongue]

As a coach Williams was also sponsoring the club and last couple of of years of his tenure, coached for nothing.

 

[Too Old Too Slow (TOTS)]

Describe equal playing field? Every major league in state inc Bendigo have teams in major centres and those on the periphery. Right now you’d hardly say GV clubs in Shepparton are flying. Wodonga is one of fastest growing cities in VIC yet you’ve got one club this year won its first ovens murray final in over decade and another that continualily struggles. North Albury been ordinary for years but on the up with what locals credit as a very hard working committee and good coach. Up in Sunraysia robinvale-Euston best team all year. Lost grand final coz they had a bad day on GF day. It happens. In Wimmera Ararat played a merged club from Hopetoun & Beulah in gf. No maccas or kfc in those two towns. The days of Horsham demons Dominating well and truly over. Seen how many flags koroit won in hampden league in last decade?

Harsh .... love the knowledge and references across Country Footy.... nothing else to say.

 

[Silver Tongue]

The answer is LOTS

Nobody lives there - the pies aren’t that good that gun ex AFL players come back for the love of it


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As if you would possibly know you sock puppet! Read Johnnos earlier post.

 

[Forest St End]

Describe equal playing field? Every major league in state inc Bendigo have teams in major centres and those on the periphery. Right now you’d hardly say GV clubs in Shepparton are flying. Wodonga is one of fastest growing cities in VIC yet you’ve got one club this year won its first ovens murray final in over decade and another that continualily struggles. North Albury been ordinary for years but on the up with what locals credit as a very hard working committee and good coach. Up in Sunraysia robinvale-Euston best team all year. Lost grand final coz they had a bad day on GF day. It happens. In Wimmera Ararat played a merged club from Hopetoun & Beulah in gf. No maccas or kfc in those two towns. The days of Horsham demons Dominating well and truly over. Seen how many flags koroit won in hampden league in last decade?

There’s all sorts of advantages outside of the size of the town.

I take Golden Square for example, undeniably a powerful club but with all the advantages they were given back in the days of the Pioneers being established a monkey with a typewriter could have led them to success.

 

[ROOTA#6]

There’s all sorts of advantages outside of the size of the town.

I take Golden Square for example, undeniably a powerful club but with all the advantages they were given back in the days of the Pioneers being established a monkey with a typewriter could have led them to success.

Give it a spell.

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

Pretty sure the pios started in 93, square only won a flag in 2001. In that period Maryborough, maine, flat and kyneton were the strongest they have ever being in the league

 

[saintron]

Can we talk about something else. What recruits are coming into the league. How are each club going with recruiting

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

Everyone's leaving Ron, apart from maine

 

[innercircle]

For every Boort of 81 & 82 Forest St End there's a wcyche that beat then in 81 with locals and hardly any money spent. Yep Birchip and nully are spending up big with grains, but both are still well run clubs, where the recruits stay there more than a year, these guys could get paid similar to play closer to home as well.


I'd thought it was a pretty well known fact from the dirty williams days, rochy locals play for bugger all, as it allows them to get a few recruits, happens at kerang as well, maffra, Leongatha etc, where they blood juniors into their senior teams early, so they learn how to play the way they want and that way you keep 14-18 core locals and can top up with a couple of big recruits.

Generally you'll find the whole town follows the club as well and that drives locals to come back and play, and there's been generations play there. not sure you could say that about maine or Maryborough at the moment, although I like maine are thinking outside the box and there's guys coming in from the mcdfl as well

There is always a couple of car loads of uni students that live in Bendigo that travel back to Rochester for training and games. It was never in question as a Rochy local that you would do anything else but play at Rochy. It was just what you did, everyone wanted to be part of it.
Sometimes we would train at a Bendigo club, they would often have no idea who we were, just happy to let us train. Wouldn’t know they had a few Rochy boys who could play a bit, GV interleague players.


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[Trent the flight Steward]

Knighter always trained with south and a few others did the same from memory, but yep I do recall a similar thing from the kerang boys one night turned up to marong unannounced, as Eaglehawk were having a night off and the balls were pinging around that night, I'd imagine it would have been the same with the rochy boys rocking and a few old blokes wondering who these new guys are that can kick a footy

 

[Forest St End]

Give it a spell.

Pretty sure the pios started in 93, square only won a flag in 2001. In that period Maryborough, maine, flat and kyneton were the strongest they have ever being in the league

Dunno why you guys would be sensitive about that, it’s just plain history.

The Pioneers inception was a huge kick along for Golden Square, the injection of money, facilities and players is a huge reason they are where they are now.

Can we talk about something else. What recruits are coming into the league. How are each club going with recruiting

Here’s how I see it.

Basically everyone has gotten worse bar Castlemaine, the contenders haven’t really changed, maybe just shuffled in order.

I’d have Sandhurst, Gisborne and Eaglehawk as a top 3, Strath and Square to round out the 5.

I reckon Castlemaine has probably moved past Kangaroo Flat and close to South, with Maryborough last.

Hoping Castlemaine has more to come as at this stage you’d have to say the recruiting has been good in quality but much less in quantity than everyone would have hoped.

 

[AlburyE]

Knighter always trained with south and a few others did the same from memory, but yep I do recall a similar thing from the kerang boys one night turned up to marong unannounced, as Eaglehawk were having a night off and the balls were pinging around that night, I'd imagine it would have been the same with the rochy boys rocking and a few old blokes wondering who these new guys are that can kick a footy

Can we talk about something else. What recruits are coming into the league. How are each club going with recruiting

Square have announced 5 and all look pretty handy. Strath have Caleb Sheahan returning. Jonty Neaves will be welcomed back with open arms at the Borough. Will Wallace (Sandhurst) and Jackson Carrillo (Gisborne) looking interesting recruits. Anyone got any comments about them?

Castlemaine have a heap including 2 Collingwood VFL players. Forest can tell us more about them.

I am sure that in time more recruits will be announced. Keep an eye on 'Country Vic Footy News' on Facebook for more details.

 

[AlburyE]

Square have announced 5 and all look pretty handy. Strath have Caleb Sheahan returning. Jonty Neaves will be welcomed back with open arms at the Borough. Will Wallace (Sandhurst) and Jackson Carrillo (Gisborne) looking interesting recruits. Anyone got any comments about them?

Castlemaine have a heap including 2 Collingwood VFL players. Forest can tell us more about them.

I am sure that in time more recruits will be announced. Keep an eye on 'Country Vic Footy News' on Facebook for more details.

My Top five at the moment:

1. Gisborne
2. Golden Square.
3. Sandhurst
4. Eaglehawk
5. Strathfieldsaye just nudging out Castlemaine.

 

[Forest St End]

5. Strathfieldsaye just nudging out Castlemaine.

Unless Strath come way back I’d have them comfortably ahead at this point.

Assuming they keep Filo Castlemaine has an excellent midfield, or a very good one without him, but will be young in the ruck.

If Hartley plays forward then they are still at least a key forward and key back short. If he plays back they are two key forwards short.

The two ex VFL players announced so far seem to be a small forward and a half back ball using type, both of which will be helpful but without a few more sizeable types it’s going to be very hard to beat the good teams.

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

Hartley has to play back or on the wing, maybe fwd v flat and Maryborough only