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Forest St End said:
There’s a lot of champions in the 92 side but that half back line of Kavanagh Moran Starbuck would be as good as half back line as any country team has ever had. Three amazing players who were incredible as a unit.
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I think Kavanagh played half-forward in 92 - at least in the finals. That team were scary good and scary..... played that finals series like they were possessed.
 
Bush Fly said:
What was Kavanagh's first name? Football administrator bloke?
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Tom?

Forest was recently talking about players turning their back on the AFL (Greene, Oliver, Filo etc). To add another dimension to this discussion I have listed three players who didn't even try to play AFL, but would have been very capable at that level - Peter Moroni, Ron Best & Brodie Filo.

Sandhurst, Golden Square & Castlemaine's recruiting shows good players are coming into the BFNL so it is not all gloom and doom. Castlemaine have two VFL listed players and Kangaroo Flat another who has been VFL listed and we are only in November. Jonty Neaves (Eaglehawk) is also a class recruit. I understand clearances don't actually open until February. Unlike others I also don't see the Dragons as overwhelming favorites for the flag. Sure they have recruited well, but they have lost Hamish Hosking who is just about irreplaceable and Matt Thorton, Andy Collins & Lee Coughlan who were great players over many years. It also looks like Cooper Smith will take some time to get back on the park. For all the faults with the BFNL at the bottom end of the ladder which I am not denying or pretending everything is rosey, last years final series was a good competitive one and if Gisborne & Castlemaine can make the finals next year the competition will be much healthier.
 
AlburyE said:
Tom?

Forest was recently talking about players turning their back on the AFL (Greene, Oliver, Filo etc). To add another dimension to this discussion I have listed three players who didn't even try to play AFL, but would have been very capable at that level - Peter Moroni, Ron Best & Brodie Filo.

Sandhurst, Golden Square & Castlemaine's recruiting shows good players are coming into the BFNL so it is not all gloom and doom. Castlemaine have two VFL listed players and Kangaroo Flat another who has been VFL listed and we are only in November. Jonty Neaves (Eaglehawk) is also a class recruit. I understand clearances don't actually open until February. Unlike others I also don't see the Dragons as overwhelming favorites for the flag. Sure they have recruited well, but they have lost Hamish Hosking who is just about irreplaceable and Matt Thorton, Andy Collins & Lee Coughlan who were great players over many years. It also looks like Cooper Smith will take some time to get back on the park. For all the faults with the BFNL at the bottom end of the ladder which I am not denying or pretending everything is rosey, last years final series was a good competitive one and if Gisborne & Castlemaine can make the finals next year the competition will be much healthier.
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Can we please circle back on who Golden Square recruits are?
 
harsh. but fair said:
Can we please circle back on who Golden Square recruits are?
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Holt from Wedderburn, Rosengren returns, as does Kyle Stevens, and Kai Daniels announces as well. I think that’s it at the moment. A long way to go to replace the number that have left.
Albury I think you have an old coaches hat on, trying to downplay how far ahead of the pack Sandhurst will be. It’s yours/theirs to lose based on what we currently know.
 
Too Old Too Slow (TOTS) said:
I think Kavanagh played half-forward in 92 - at least in the finals. That team were scary good and scary..... played that finals series like they were possessed.
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No definitely half back, that was a hard forward line to break into. I have a feeling the scoring average is still the highest ever in a season, it was something crazy like 180 odd points a game.

Oliver, Henderson, Sean Smith, Mick Pedretti, Brett Fitzpatrick and a heap of attacking midfielders.
 
AlburyE said:
Tom?

Forest was recently talking about players turning their back on the AFL (Greene, Oliver, Filo etc). To add another dimension to this discussion I have listed three players who didn't even try to play AFL, but would have been very capable at that level - Peter Moroni, Ron Best & Brodie Filo.

Sandhurst, Golden Square & Castlemaine's recruiting shows good players are coming into the BFNL so it is not all gloom and doom. Castlemaine have two VFL listed players and Kangaroo Flat another who has been VFL listed and we are only in November. Jonty Neaves (Eaglehawk) is also a class recruit. I understand clearances don't actually open until February. Unlike others I also don't see the Dragons as overwhelming favorites for the flag. Sure they have recruited well, but they have lost Hamish Hosking who is just about irreplaceable and Matt Thorton, Andy Collins & Lee Coughlan who were great players over many years. It also looks like Cooper Smith will take some time to get back on the park. For all the faults with the BFNL at the bottom end of the ladder which I am not denying or pretending everything is rosey, last years final series was a good competitive one and if Gisborne & Castlemaine can make the finals next year the competition will be much healthier.
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Always good for a competition when ex-AFL/state league players sign on for interest in the league and improves junior retention & development. Fans of other clubs might be disheartened seeing an already strong club recruiting quality players but good to see Greene returning out of the AFL. Whatever he's getting at Sandhurst, someone would've been offering more in the city so good on him giving back to his home club.

Would be interested in seeing the stats on players going to regional leagues vs metro ones once they're finished at higher levels and how many are returning to their home clubs vs new clubs to see how much the 46 point system in metro comps is advantaging these clubs in recruiting. Less player points = less clubs who can recruit 5/6 point players = less suitors for these players & less bidding wars/less having to be paid to secure them? Should be a uniform tiered points system across the state to have more equal access to these guys.

Metro leagues continuing to use SportsTG/myGameDay over PlayHQ makes it near impossible to track player's past playing history otherwise I'd look into it myself, tried it the other day and noticed you can't even view the player points in the Eastern League or EDFL results from this season, just fails to load all together:think: a bug or a feature!? Maybe I'm just cynical
 
Personally think the signing of Matthew Campbell, while a bit more lowkey than Greene and Tardrew committing full time, is a very nice one. He's had a pretty stunning rise the last few years getting into state footy, he has a great leap on him so he is capable of a few highlight reel moments and he can play both down back and up forward. Reads it so well
 

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Oraaaaazio said:
Always good for a competition when ex-AFL/state league players sign on for interest in the league and improves junior retention & development. Fans of other clubs might be disheartened seeing an already strong club recruiting quality players but good to see Greene returning out of the AFL. Whatever he's getting at Sandhurst, someone would've been offering more in the city so good on him giving back to his home club.

Would be interested in seeing the stats on players going to regional leagues vs metro ones once they're finished at higher levels and how many are returning to their home clubs vs new clubs to see how much the 46 point system in metro comps is advantaging these clubs in recruiting. Less player points = less clubs who can recruit 5/6 point players = less suitors for these players & less bidding wars/less having to be paid to secure them? Should be a uniform tiered points system across the state to have more equal access to these guys.

Metro leagues continuing to use SportsTG/myGameDay over PlayHQ makes it near impossible to track player's past playing history otherwise I'd look into it myself, tried it the other day and noticed you can't even view the player points in the Eastern League or EDFL results from this season, just fails to load all together:think: a bug or a feature!? Maybe I'm just cynical
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Metro going to PlayHQ from next year
 
tasmanlvr said:
Personally think the signing of Matthew Campbell, while a bit more lowkey than Greene and Tardrew committing full time, is a very nice one. He's had a pretty stunning rise the last few years getting into state footy, he has a great leap on him so he is capable of a few highlight reel moments and he can play both down back and up forward. Reads it so well
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Who did he play for last year?
 
tasmanlvr said:
Personally think the signing of Matthew Campbell, while a bit more lowkey than Greene and Tardrew committing full time, is a very nice one. He's had a pretty stunning rise the last few years getting into state footy, he has a great leap on him so he is capable of a few highlight reel moments and he can play both down back and up forward. Reads it so well
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Couldn't agree more tasmanlvr, Matthew is a star and potentially could be the best player in the competition. Will be a terrific acquisition and will excite spectators if he really gets going. Played some excellent football at North this year and was prominent in the TSL team of the year awards.
 
Forest St End said:
No definitely half back, that was a hard forward line to break into. I have a feeling the scoring average is still the highest ever in a season, it was something crazy like 180 odd points a game.

Oliver, Henderson, Sean Smith, Mick Pedretti, Brett Fitzpatrick and a heap of attacking midfielders.
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Was a bloody good team and as well as a few excitement machines they had some other guys such as Filo and a fellow called David Rath who was a very underrated player and went on to be a key coach and assistant to Alastair Clarkson during his golden era at Hawthorn.

Looking back, this team was one of the best I have seen in country footy and if it was going around today would dominate.

Times have certainly changed in getting players of this calibre playing in country footy.
 
localfootyguru said:
Was a bloody good team and as well as a few excitement machines they had some other guys such as Filo and a fellow called David Rath who was a very underrated player and went on to be a key coach and assistant to Alastair Clarkson during his golden era at Hawthorn.

Looking back, this team was one of the best I have seen in country footy and if it was going around today would dominate.

Times have certainly changed in getting players of this calibre playing in country footy.
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Yeah Rusty Rath was a student in those days and has gone on to have an excellent career in the AFL, has moved to the Wallabies now.

Probably the most amazing thing about that side was 18 of the 20 played Castlemaine junior footy and the other two were Dean Costello who was a long time local copper and David Cox who was going out with and later married the then President’s daughter. So basically everyone was a local, no head hunting or bringing in recruits.
 
localfootyguru said:
Couldn't agree more tasmanlvr, Matthew is a star and potentially could be the best player in the competition. Will be a terrific acquisition and will excite spectators if he really gets going. Played some excellent football at North this year and was prominent in the TSL team of the year awards.
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What’s his background? Not from the area?
 
silver55 said:
What’s his background? Not from the area?
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Nah we were together at Mernda in the Northern FNL for a few years. Had a massive turnaround a few years back, was dropped to the two's, then tried down back and had a big second half of the year, wound up winning the best and fairest.

Tried his hand at state league and he did really well, now back in Victoria. Not bad coming from division three in the Northern and proving himself big time
 
tasmanlvr said:
Nah we were together at Mernda in the Northern FNL for a few years. Had a massive turnaround a few years back, was dropped to the two's, then tried down back and had a big second half of the year, wound up winning the best and fairest.

Tried his hand at state league and he did really well, now back in Victoria. Not bad coming from division three in the Northern and proving himself big time
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Sounds like a good lad with the right attitude, any idea of his connection at the club?
 

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