Berry on Oliver

[Meteoric Rise]

Zero intent, zero impact, high contact. Perfectly reasonable action in the circumstances. No fine, no suspension.

Media fools should get 4 weeks down to 3 with an early plea and the ones who didn’t go as hard should get stiff fines. Gary Lyon I am sure is not a first offence, de-register that campaigner. AFL should ring Ralphy on Monday seeking a please explain.

 

[danster168]

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Arm on the throat choking him out, let's ignore that

Hand trying to push the guy off....EYE GOUGE!!!

Vic media doing some of its best work here

choking him out? not sure what photo you're looking at. he doesn't even have a arm on his neck. chin/upper chest at best.

no need for Berry to have bent fingers if trying to push Oliver off. 1 or 2 weeks for me. No big deal though if he plays vs geelong.

 

[kickazz]

Jon Ralph the absolute tosser was going on about this harder than anyone, reckons it'll be a week suspension at least. What the fk is he supposed to do? Let Oliver pin him down and just take it?
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, Clayton. Should be dismissed within 5 minutes.

Remember when the media were not allowed to show replays or prejudice the case by commenting on it?

 

[Madblue]

Could not get a more deliberate and obvious eye gouge so just a matter of how many weeks

 

[Borough Blood]

Could not get a more deliberate and obvious eye gouge so just a matter of how many weeks

Toby says hi.

 

[Zacs_Magic_Tooth]

I assume Oliver gets a week for intentional high contact to the face and throat. Aside from that what are the media even trying at here?

 

[HairyO]

I assume Oliver gets a week for intentional high contact to the face and throat. Aside from that what are the media even trying at here?

The right decision is both get a fine. But how often has the AFL made the right decision?

 

[mouncey2franklin]

I would want to see the full scuffle before passing judgement one way or the other.

If Berry started it, and then Oliver outwrestled him into side control, and then Berry went the gouge, then for Berry.

Don't start it, then go dirty once you get beaten. That's not on.

On the other hand, if Oliver started it, when Berry was minding his own business, then Berry had every right to fire back

You're not allowed to wrestle and lay on people without the football. That's breaking the rules, pure and simple.

So if Oliver broke the rules, and put his arm anywhere near Berry's throat, without provocation, then he asked for it.

The clip in OP's tweet is not enough evidence to judge one way or the other imho.

(I didn't watch most of the game and had not seen this footage until just now).

 

[Hoops]

Not worthy of it's own thread, but why was Petty able to push his arm/elbow in to Zorko's head with no repercussion with the umpire right there?

 

[Hungdaddy]

This incident just serves as a reminder that the commentary team should not be allowed to try and sway opinion. Garry Lyon in particular has a clear bias against Brisbane in this case. Call the play and STFU when you aren't.

 

[Wargreymon90]

This one is an interesting one. Neither party is innocent. But there is clearly an element of self defence here.

 

[Heaps of fun]

I don't see an arm on the throat. Pressing into the top of his chest pretty hard which would be uncomfortable but there appears to be no arm on the throat. In comparison the eye gouge is pretty clear. I hope they let Berry play anyway though and it's not like he's gouging him without some reason.

 

[RAPPA]

When a guy with a head like Oliver’s is on top of you then Berry’s in the clear

 

[Testekill]

Berry at most should cop a fine, Oliver was pinning him down by the throat after all.

 

[Testekill]

Wasn't the injury to Oliver's eye the other side?

It was indeed the opposite eye.

 

[TRP1996]

Am I insane or does it look like Oliver tried to bite his fingers?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Oliver created the contact to his eye by lowering his head into his hand. Play on and perfectly legal.
Anything head high now is legal.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Remember when the media were not allowed to show replays or prejudice the case by commenting on it?

Only if it's reported at the time

They can go hell for leather if it isn't reported on the spot (which it rarely is any more)

 

[Plugger35]

It would be ridiculous if he got suspended for that, a fine at most and even that would be harsh.

 

[Smeg Head]

High, Intentional, Severe (on risk of injury provision)

So straight to the tribunal for Oliver.

 

[Fitzey]

1 week, can clearly see what his intentions were. Grubby act that has no place in the game. Expecting that the Lions will get their usual discount at the MRO though and it’ll be nothing so Oliver will probably get fined and the grub will get let off.

 

[tonygeeks]

Never seen a more cut and dried decision

1 Week

Next

 

[SSwans2011]

Would be farcical if he gets rubbed out for this. Arm on his throat, vision impaired, and it seems as soon as he realises he's around the eye he pulls away. I'm impressed by his restraint, if anything.

 

[danster168]

I would want to see the full scuffle before passing judgement one way or the other.

If Berry started it, and then Oliver outwrestled him into side control, and then Berry went the gouge, then for Berry.

Don't start it, then go dirty once you get beaten. That's not on.

On the other hand, if Oliver started it, when Berry was minding his own business, then Berry had every right to fire back

You're not allowed to wrestle and lay on people without the football. That's breaking the rules, pure and simple.

So if Oliver broke the rules, and put his arm anywhere near Berry's throat, without provocation, then he asked for it.

The clip in OP's tweet is not enough evidence to judge one way or the other imho.

(I didn't watch most of the game and had not seen this footage until just now).

There's no excuse for eye gauging. that's one of the lowest acts. It's a dog act. Berry is a big boy, you'd him to be able to wrestle his way out of it. People are talking about it as if Oliver is plugger Lockett or something. Anyone pretending that he wasn't eye gauging are sticking their head in the sand. But honestly if he gets off the charge, they lose by 50, if he gets weeks they lose by 60. It's not a deal breaker to this game. There's no-one tag worthy at Geelong anyway.

 

[flamethrower]

The injuries to Oliver's face happened last week against Sydney - he was sent off multiple times for the blood rule, and ended up with more bandages than the Mummy. Commentators using these injuries to convict Berry are a disgrace. Jon Ralph would be the sort of bloke who goes to public hangings and cheers for the hangman.