Opinion Best team 2022

[Larry Donohue]

Is Kolo concussion related or actual "best 22"? As it's crazy to think Zuthrie replaces Kolo and plays his role. Kolo has literally never been dropped in his entire career, and is having his best ever year.

Zuthrie and Atkins best year too.
Atkins must be in for his strength and toughness
Zuthrie must be in for his changing of how we run and use the ball from the back and his intercepting. He also makes less errors under pressure than Kolo.
The backline is so good this year O'Connor already squeezed. I believe Zuthrie has earned a place more
You cannot drop bews sdk tuohy Henry Stewart zuthrie in my view
We have not been brave previous years and have paid the price.
We must go ball movement over slow movement. It is why we are better now.
Stick with our guns of game style and stick with enthusiasm of youth.
I have menegola as medi sub too.
Tough selection time but that is my reasoning
Also Collingwood don't have a massive forward line.
Ginnivan and Elliot for starters

 

[tenderwarrior]

B: J.Bews - S.DeKoning - Z.Guthie
HB: T.Stewart - J.Kolodjashnij - M.Duncan
C: M.Holmes - J.Selwood - I.Smith
HF: G.Miers - J.Cameron - B.Close
F: J.Henry - T.Hawkins - T.Stengle
Foll: R.Stanley - M.Blicavs - C.Guthrie

Inter: P.Dangerfield - B.Parfitt - T.Atkins - Z.Touhy
Sub: S.Menegola

Emer: M.O'Connor - J.Ceglar - G.Rohan

I think this is a very solid 26 that covers most bases (horses for courses)..

I am also reasonably confident that any of Dahlhaus, Higgins, Neale, Ratagolea, Narkle, or Stephens could come in to play a role too if needed..

 

[fpm84]

Also Collingwood don't have a massive forward line.
Ginnivan and Elliot for starters

Mihocek, Johnson and Cox/Cameron all play tall and then they have Elliott and Ginnivan as dangerous smalls and McCreery who is there for pressure. Their forward line is pretty underrated IMO, it may not have the superstar names but is definitely capable of scoring 100+.

 

[Jumping Jack]

B: J.Bews - S.DeKoning - Z.Guthie
HB: T.Stewart - J.Kolodjashnij - M.Duncan
C: M.Holmes - J.Selwood - I.Smith
HF: G.Miers - J.Cameron - B.Close
F: J.Henry - T.Hawkins - T.Stengle
Foll: R.Stanley - M.Blicavs - C.Guthrie

Inter: P.Dangerfield - B.Parfitt - T.Atkins - Z.Touhy
Sub: S.Menegola

Emer: M.O'Connor - J.Ceglar - G.Rohan

I think this is a very solid 26 that covers most bases (horses for courses)..

I am also reasonably confident that any of Dahlhaus, Higgins, Neale, Ratagolea, Narkle, or Stephens could come in to play a role too if needed..

Unless injured I'd say Rohan is a lock for at least the QF. Depending on the result, and how he actually plays (based on past performances) then I do agree he's on thin ice and his position is by no means a lock for the rest of the finals matches.

 

[Mr Meow]

Zuthrie and Atkins best year too.
Atkins must be in for his strength and toughness
Zuthrie must be in for his changing of how we run and use the ball from the back and his intercepting. He also makes less errors under pressure than Kolo.
The backline is so good this year O'Connor already squeezed. I believe Zuthrie has earned a place more
You cannot drop bews sdk tuohy Henry Stewart zuthrie in my view
We have not been brave previous years and have paid the price.
We must go ball movement over slow movement. It is why we are better now.
Stick with our guns of game style and stick with enthusiasm of youth.
I have menegola as medi sub too.
Tough selection time but that is my reasoning
Also Collingwood don't have a massive forward line.
Ginnivan and Elliot for starters

Atkins is a guarantee to play.

Zuthrie is still a small chance, but it won't be at the expense of Kolo unless there is the concussion concern.

We already have been brave. Stengle, Holmes, and SDK into the side, Blicavs and Atkins to mids, Duncan at half back, Miers given an important role. Faster ball movement and high pressure without the ball.

Kolo is making less mistakes with ball in hand and even taking the game on more. His intercept possession numbers are decent and he locks down important forwards to not much more than a goal a game on average. He releases Henry and Stewart to do their thing.

This is coming from a Kolo critic too. There is a 0% chance he gets dropped.

 

[Sire of Claude]

All the younger 'regulars' must play, incl. young Guthrie, and Mieirs, who has improved out of sight. A defender has to miss, maybe Kolo, because of his confusion, and because the Pies are shortish up forward.

The Pies win all their close ones partly I assume because they're very fit. Menegola has a tank but is he fit for this game? He has had a very interrupted 2 seasons and frankly some stalwarts will have to make way for the younger fresher players.

Rohan is line-ball - he hasn't had much continuity and then there is his execrable finals record. Henry's versatility is insurance.

Duncan must prove he is fully fit and may not be able to. This would simplify selection though one would have mixed feelings given the player he has been.

 

[Sire of Claude]

Concussion, not confusion, though that could also apply on occasions.

 

[David the Cat]

Kolo to Miochek..?..Henry to Elliot...SDK to Cox..?...Bews to Ginnivin....Stewie and Zuth/Mitch to run riot and stop Johnson if need be..

 

[tenderwarrior]

Unless injured I'd say Rohan is a lock for at least the QF. Depending on the result, and how he actually plays (based on past performances) then I do agree he's on thin ice and his position is by no means a lock for the rest of the finals matches.

I tend to agree. I like Rohan, but just trying to make sense of what will happen. I think Z.Guthrie more likely to miss than Kolodjashnij, but a slightly left field omission could be Atkins, who might have his midfield importance lessened by the return of Parfitt.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I tend to agree. I like Rohan, but just trying to make sense of what will happen. I think Z.Guthrie more likely to miss than Kolodjashnij, but a slightly left field omission could be Atkins, who might have his midfield importance lessened by the return of Parfitt.

Atkins is best 22 every day of the week.

Apart from the obvious outs of cegs and sav it is zuthrie moc miers and rohan that are in danger (depending on whether you think menegola is fit to play).

 

[tenderwarrior]

Atkins is best 22 every day of the week.

Apart from the obvious outs of cegs and sav it is zuthrie moc miers and rohan that are in danger (depending on whether you think menegola is fit to play).

I did say left field.. haha

 

[Sire of Claude]

It is curious given his journey, but I think Zac Guthrie will keep his spot and deservedly so. He is in good form, in the right age demographic and has no injury concerns, unlike some of the other candidates.

I also have the sense that the coaches are committed to Mieirs, who is in the best form of his career right now. He, Close and Stengle are our own 'mosquito fleet'.

This means that Menegola and O'Connor are likely to miss, and possibly also Duncan if there is any doubt about his fitness. Kolo is another question mark because of his concussion. This leaves the GREAT ENIGMA - I refer to one Gary Rohan

23

Gary Rohan

Age

33

Ht

189cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.8

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

4.2

5star

G

1.2

4star

. If he does get a game he'll have to perform, otherwise he will surely be out for the next stanza.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It is curious given his journey, but I think Zac Guthrie will keep his spot and deservedly so. He is in good form, in the right age demographic and has no injury concerns, unlike some of the other candidates.

I also have the sense that the coaches are committed to Mieirs, who is in the best form of his career right now. He, Close and Stengle are our own 'mosquito fleet'.

This means that Menegola and O'Connor are likely to miss, and possibly also Duncan if there is any doubt about his fitness. Kolo is another question mark because of his concussion. This leaves the GREAT ENIGMA - I refer to one Gary Rohan. If he does get a game he'll have to perform, otherwise he will surely be out for the next stanza.

Kolo has never been dropped i doubt it starts now.
Duncan looks like he will be fit and will be picked.
Menegola has also been first choice for years.

I cant see zuthrie climbing over all of them into the finals side. He will be an unlucky omission.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

Unless injured I'd say Rohan is a lock for at least the QF. Depending on the result, and how he actually plays (based on past performances) then I do agree he's on thin ice and his position is by no means a lock for the rest of the finals matches.

Pies do slingshot off the HB line extremely well , Rohan needs to run and pressure his backside off all night to make them think twice.
If he does that well then a 8 possession 1 goal and 3 assist type game should do the trick.
Best 23 is very hard to pick - I have Menegola and MOC as emergencies - that's impressive depth.

 

[CHAWKTS]

Kolo has never been dropped i doubt it starts now.
Duncan looks like he will be fit and will be picked.
Menegola has also been first choice for years.

I cant see zuthrie climbing over all of them into the finals side. He will be an unlucky omission.

Points well made and certainly backed up by history.

Only one I think that has changed is menagola. I reckon he isn’t first choice anymore given options.

Duncan is (if fit) and Kolo hard to argue. Despite opinions on this board he is in that first pick category for the MC

 

[Sire of Claude]

If all of Menegola, Duncan and Kolo play the team is going to resemble too closely the lineups that have lost so many finals. if the MC see things the same way, then i think Menegola may miss out. It's happened many a time - poor old Nathan Jones carried the Dees for years and then missed out when they won the flag. Regulars missing games can be a sign the team is improving.

My intuition is that young Guthrie will play - they persevered with him and he is rewarding them - and that Kolo will retain his spot if he is cleared from concussion. This means O'Connor may miss out.

Rohan is a fascinating one: they could play Henry forward where he has influenced games on 2 or 3 occasions, though I do agree that 10/12 touches, 2 goals and a couple of run-down tackles from Rohan would be priceless. But can he do it....? Maybe a good sports psychologist....?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Menegola wasnt dropped he was sore (prob his knee again) as scott said post game. Its possible he misses the 22 if fit but i doubt it others are in more danger.

Journos posed the interesting question of is the 12 day protocol ends at the start of the 12th day or midnight? Ie if our QF is thursday night can he play or does he not get out of protocols til the friday.

I agree im not generally a fan of 2 rucks given blitz is fine as a 2nd ruck but melbourne is the one team id do it against given how good their midfield is at centre bounce and how dominant gawn is with 6-6-6. Stanley is better around the ground but ceglar is a bigger body and a better tap ruck and would better nullify those 15min periods where gawn gets a hold of us. But it would be a big structure change to do it in a PF or GF having not trialled it all year (due to injury).
Against a team with weaker rucks like collingwood/bris etc stanley ceglar definitely sits out and its stanley and blitz.

I wouldn't change our game plan against Melbourne. Our advantage is forward half attacking pressure and turnover conversion, whereas even playing Stanley/Ceglar as a combo won't beat Gawn/Jackson. Why jettison a clear advantage to only partially offset a disadvantage?

I think we have to accept the disadvantage we have in the ruck to preserve the advantage that got us here. Especially given the better defenders that Melbourne have are aerial not ground level.

Stanley-Blitz has to be our first choice ruck set up

 

[Larry Donohue]

Milburn Scarlett Enright
Stewart Taylor D. Marshall
M.Turner Ablett snr Couch
D.Clarke Hawkins Cameron
Stevie J. Wade Dangerfield
Farmer Hocking Ablett jnr
Selwood Goggin Ottens Bartel

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Milburn Scarlett Enright
Stewart Taylor D. Marshall
M.Turner Ablett snr Couch
D.Clarke Hawkins Cameron
Bartel Wade Dangerfield
Farmer Hocking Ablett jnr
Selwood Goggin Ottens Stoneham

Did you steal my delorean?

 

[Larry Donohue]

Did you steal my delorean?

I'm my own time shifter.
Old proud and haggered

 

[standupand]

I'm my own time shifter.
Old proud and haggered

Larry Doctorwho?

 

[Larry Donohue]

Atkins is a guarantee to play.

Zuthrie is still a small chance, but it won't be at the expense of Kolo unless there is the concussion concern.

We already have been brave. Stengle, Holmes, and SDK into the side, Blicavs and Atkins to mids, Duncan at half back, Miers given an important role. Faster ball movement and high pressure without the ball.

Kolo is making less mistakes with ball in hand and even taking the game on more. His intercept possession numbers are decent and he locks down important forwards to not much more than a goal a game on average. He releases Henry and Stewart to do their thing.

This is coming from a Kolo critic too. There is a 0% chance he gets dropped.

So you have who coming in?
Stanley Cameron Duncan Menegola Kolo?

 

[Larry Donohue]

Larry Doctorwho?

Sorry for the misspelling
With all the time shifts one loses himself

 

[Seeds]

Milburn Scarlett Enright
Stewart Taylor D. Marshall
M.Turner Ablett snr Couch
D.Clarke Hawkins Cameron
Bartel Wade Dangerfield
Farmer Hocking Ablett jnr
Selwood Goggin Ottens Stoneham

To have bartel in a foward pocket ahead of sjohnson and chapman is very weird. Sj was a better player then bartel regardless of position but you are going a step further and putting bartel deep foward ahead of him?

but then again, couch on a wing? Ablett in the centre? what the? Surely you would swap them around.

 

[Mr Meow]

So you have who coming in?
Stanley Cameron Duncan Menegola Kolo?

All but Menegola.

Zuth I still think may be unlucky. I just have this feeling this new Cats team, they like having their weapons and link players up forward. Excluding Rohan or Miers they lose something they otherwise have, with a unique attribute that helps us score. If either were out of form it's a different story. Maybe you could argue that case for Rohan but not Miers.