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# 1 Essendon - Andrew McGrath
Pick 1 Essendon Andrew McGrath 179cm 75kg Def/Mid Sandringham Dragons
Andrew McGrath could not have achieved anymore than he did this year.
He is super quick, with agility and dare running from half back. He has run a sub 11 second 100 metres which is quick.
When playing in the midfield McGrath has displayed the ability to win clearances and get a lot of the footy.
He averaged 32.3 disposals per game in 10 TAC games at 84% efficiency. He also averaged 6.7 clearances a game.
He is above average overhead for his size.
He also has a real competitive streak. He got his side over the line in a couple of TAC finals this year.
He was also clearly BOG in the TAC Cup Grand Final.
I really liked the way he dismantled a very hot Ben Ainsworth in the National carnival mid year.
He also has very strong leadership qualities. He was captain of Brighton Grammar and Vic Metro this year.
He is well liked and has a confident and engaging personality.
Where will he play?
McGrath will play round one as a small defender and run through the wings and flanks.
He is AFL ready to go. He has the speed to adapt to the pace of the game however like all rookies his poise will be tested by the huge step up in class.
I can see McGrath turning into an attacking half back who runs through the midfield when additional speed and flair is required.
Pick Rationale
The choice came down to McGrath or McCluggage.
I think McGrath is ready to play while I think Hugh will need a bit of time.
I like McCluggage's goal kicking ability and he is a classy ball user but I have some concerns about his ability to win the footy and I didn't think he coped with physical pressure as well as I would have liked in the back end of the year. He will receive this in the AFL! I am sure that he will improve in this area but I am splitting hairs at this point. I just worry if Essendon go down my path that they are picking Luke Ball rather than Chris Judd. McCluggage does have some special qualities.
Future Picks
With 20, 29 and 41 pretty much best players available.
Inside midfielders would be nice.
A lot of Essendon supporters would like another tall forward however I am not sure any in this draft justify where our draft picks are.
I think James Stewart is as good as any tall forward in this draft and only 4 years older.
Essendon are probably a little fortunate to have pick one in this draft and some further nice picks so I think best player available is the way to go.
# 2 GWS - Hugh McCluggage
Hugh McCluggage / NBR / 186cm / 76kg
Why him - Ticks every box for me as a midfielder / half forward and suits the GWS list so well. GWS have a lot of really good ball winners and whilst Hugh wins his own footy I think he might get used a little more on the outside (particularly early in his career) where his polish with the ball will get utilised more. I genuinely haven't seen this kid put in a bad game. I love his sense of the game and how he gets himself to the right spots all the time. His ball use is very good and he has that ability to hold the ball and look for his best option and then create good drive and metres for him and his team mates. I agree with foj1 that physically he is in for a real test and you often hear back now that some of these higher end kids get really targeted physically very early in their career. Even though he is still light he will cope with that and he is a really even tempered kid and he won't be phased by it. There were plenty of times where he was under pretty heavy attention and death with it by hunting for the physical contest and winning his own footy. People will compare him to Pendles and there are a lot of similar attributes. I think he will be really good.
Who else - McGrath was one I would have taken if Hugh was gone. Preference was for Hugh so worked out slightly better for me.
# 3 Brisbane Lions - Ben Ainsworth
Ben Ainsworth
Well despite me rating SPS as the best player in this draft I am going with Ainsworth who I think best suits our needs. We have no real small forwards and Ainsworth will start his career in that role and should be very effective. I can see him developing like GAJ with him being very valuable up forward for the first few years of his career up forward before moving into the midfield and dominating there. The Lions have a mature group of mids and as they move on Ainsworth should be coming into his own in that role. A forward line of Schache, Hipwood and Ainsworth with Bellenden coming in next year starts to look very good with a few years of development.
I will post my full write up for Ainsworth tomorrow.https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/big-footy-2016-phantom-draft.1151499/page-10
# 4 Gold Coast Suns - Sam Petrevski-Seton
Sam Petrevski-Seton
There were a few players that I was tossing up between here, but I decided to go with the player that I believe has the highest upside left. SPS is at his best as a midfielder and that will be where he will play imo. The standout qualities that he has that made me pick him are his evasiveness, his kicking skills and just his clean hands around the contest. He probably started the year as the number one pick but a combination of injuries and not kicking on with some average performances in the U18 Champs and not playing WAFL league footy.
Strengths:
- Kicking - His disposal on either side of the body is very good and it is the difference between him and some other prospects here. He is also genuinely dual sided.
- Tackling - He is a strong tackler and I see no reason why this will not continue in the AFL. If he is not first to the ball then he will be first to tackle. His pressure around the contest is great.
- Contested work - SPS has very clean hands, a great awareness and with his evasiveness he is a great contested player and can be very damaging. He is very good at picking the ball up at speed and a good clearance winner.
- Speed and agility
- Clean hands
- Decision making
Weaknesses:
SPS for me will mature into an excellent midfielder and imo that is where he will be best played. He reminds me a lot of Daniel Kerr, with his clearance work, midfield ability and I believe he will become a similar level of player. He is what Gold Coast need, more class ball winners and users in the midfield. Also make no mistake he is an inside/outside player who is pretty complete as a midfielder except for a couple of easily fixable weaknesses.
- Goal Kicking - He does not hit the scoreboard much and it is an area he needs to improve. He is good though when he has the ball and spots targets leading up.
- Bail Winner - He is not a huge ball winner averaging only 19.5 disposals this year at WAFL colts level, a competition he should be dominating. It could be an issue with endurance and I think this is easily resolvable and he definitely improved as the year wore on.
# 5 Carlton - Tim Taranto
Tim Taranto
POS: Midfielder, Ht 186cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 28/1/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
I watched him at the under 18's and thought this kid could really play, my main concern at the time was his midfield ability. It was roughly the same concerns with Ainsworth. He is one of the strongest marks for his size, I personally think he has a great defensive side for a midfielder/forward. I am projecting him to potentially play like Parker. Watched him at the end of the season and he certainly showed the ability to play midfield and the direction modern day football is heading, being multi postional is very handy. I have him close to the best player in the draft and he will start his AFL career as a half forward and move into the midfield in his second or third year. I could see him starting off a little like Dunkley did for the Doggies this year.
Some elements that should translate into AFL football.
A modern day midfielder you want to be multi positional, contested ball winning and above average ability by foot. Taranto ticks all these boxes, his only flaw that would take him to another level (McGrath levels) is the speed aspect of his game. If you could improve his explosive ability in the first 20m, I think he would be very hard to stop.
- Scoreboard impact - Has the ability to kick goals.
- Vision - Kicking into the forwards is his strength and with the modern game, this is highly important.
- Contested ball winning midfielder, another key for the modern game
- Tackling - I think he is one of the best tacklers other than SPS
- Marking - Bartelish ability above his head
- Versatile - Forward and midfield he looks comfortable.
- Big game player - As the game becomes more important, Taranto lifts.
Carlton just need good players everywhere, so I am picking best available with my first two or three picks. Brodie was considered, but I think Taranto just has a few more tricks. (Even if I really like Brodies main trick)
# 6 Gold Coast - Will Brodie
Write up to follow, but with his size and being arguably he best clearance player in the draft he suits Gold Coast well. Also suits SPS and would work well with him.
Gold Coast seemed to go backwards a little in the clearances this year and I felt that primary reason behind this was a lack of a genuine contested ball winner with a big body. Brodie rectifies that and is probably the best inside mid in the draft. I expect him to come in and play some footy next year but he could add some more muscle. He is a bit of a one trick pony being primarily an inside mid but he is developing his marking and he could become dangerous pushing forwards so there is potential there.
His kicking is solid without being great. I actually think given time and space he can spot up targets quite well but there is inconsistency there and he is prone under pressure to just kicking it blindly long. But there is something to work with there. He is developing his marking and can take a good contested mark, with his size and strength I expect that this area will develop. Athletically he is imo above average, he has shown some ability to burst out of packs and he can seem, on occasions, to break the lines. He seems to find a fair bit of the ball around the ground but it is his contested work that stands out. He is very good at keeping his hands free and seems to have good vision in contests, which I am a huge fan of. He should become a dominant inside mid and the obvious comparison imo is Josh Kennedy.
# 7 GWS - Will Setterfield
Will Setterfield / Sandringham Dragons / 189cm / 80kg
Jack Steele out and Will Setterfield in! Exactly the sort of midfielder who can rotate through the forward half that GWS are looking for. Can play a midfield where is he quite imposing at the stoppages and that was on show through the carnival where his CP were almost 50%. He gets to the loose ball really well and he makes elite decisions with his hands in traffic and it shows in his disposal efficiency numbers where he pretty consistently runs at circa 70%. Also happy to work hard defensively for his team and apply tackle pressure. His tackling technique is really good. Like the best midfielders he has that ability to hold the ball and create better options for himself and his team. Seen a lot of him at the various levels and he is a player that generates a lot of drive for his team and he demonstrates that regularly when he takes a mark and looks to get going pretty well straight away which without wanting to pour pressure on him is similar to Bontempelli. The kicker with him is that he can roll forward where his height and marking ability is a real strength. One out and once a bit bigger he could create difficulties for opponents.
His problems are more his body in so much he just seems to pick up little injuries here and there which individually aren't significant but collectively stop him from having the year maybe some were hoping.
Interviews really well. He is a ripper this kid. You have to admire kids like him who in such an important year can play for 3 different clubs all over the country. Says a lot about what you are getting.
# 8 Gold Coast - Jack Bowes
Jack Bowes
This is actually where I expect him to get a bid, but it would not surprise if it was higher as Gold Coast will take him. He is the best QLD academy player to come through the system and the best QLD player to come through since Nick Riewoldt went number 1 imo. I rate him as the third best player in the draft behind McLuggage and McGrath. He is at his best as a midfielder but is very good at pushing forward and hitting the scoreboard well. He started off as a CHF and that can be seen in his strong marking and ability to play up forward.
As for some of the highlights, he is an excellent overhead mark for his size, he judges the ball well and appears to have a good vertical leap. He has a lot of time with the football and his decision making is a highlight. He works well in traffic and is very clean with his ball use. His kicking, whilst not elite is definitely very efficient and effective. He may not be that true big-bodied aggressive inside player but he is still very good in contests and is often the player that receives it from the first handball. He will need to improve his ball winning a little bit and he is not an elite athlete by any means. What you are getting with Jack Bowes is someone who has had an excellent junior career, he hits the scoreboard well and is super smooth. He can play almost immediately and has been dominating in the NEAFL against some good teams. He did not have a brilliant DIV 1 carnival, but was not poor either, and I attribute that to the Allies being thrown together with little practice and struggling.
# 9 Fremantle - Jarrod Berry
Jarrod Berry (191cm, 82kg utility from North Ballarat Rebels)
Coming into the 2016 season, Berry was one name that featured in discussions about the potential #1 pick. He's dropped out of that talk now, but that's not to say he isn't still deserving of a top 10 selection. At least in my mind, I know few people will have Berry rated here.
A large part of his 'fall' down the draft order can be attributed to injuries and an associated lack of continuity in his football. A shoulder reconstruction last year cut into his preseason, and then on either side of the Championships this year he suffered an AC joint injury and a setback with his knee. And in case that wasn't enough, he then suffered a bruised kidney during the TAC Cup finals.
But amongst all the injuries, Berry was playing his usual high level of football. And one of the key factors in that was his ability to play any role or position asked of him. All Australian last year as a half back, he reads the play very well and can intercept and play taller when required. As a midfielder for the Rebels this year, roughly 50% of his possessions were contested and he uses his size well. And then when he went forward at the end of the season, he finished with two 3 goal performances and an average of over a goal a game for the season.
Without a doubt, his greatest strength is who he is as a person. Widely regarded as the #1 character guy in the draft, he'll be a captain in no time and the time of player you build around. From all reports, few people will work harder both on game day and during the week. I know nothing is guaranteed when it comes to draftees, but he should be a 200 game player pretty easily. And on top of that, he can actually play too. Not only is he as tough as you'll find, but he's an elite athlete too. At the Combine, Berry finished 1st in the beep test and time trial, while also finishing top 10 in the repeat sprints and agility test.
As for weaknesses, well you'd have to consider injuries to be the main one. If he's already prone to them, his style of play isn't going to help that. The only other knock on him coming into the season was his kicking. But he's worked on that and has significantly improved in 2016. He still has quite a mechanical looking kicking style, but it gets results.
The key to where he gets drafted, will be in what role teams see him developing into. For now, I see him as a general in the back half. Like Corey Enright was for so long. He's a leader, he's calm and can provide the same level of rebound. But he's also the type that you can throw into the midfield for impact or when you really need a clearance. That's what I see him being at Fremantle. Like how Pavlich was our Mr Fix-It for so long, Berry can do that at the other end of the ground.
# 10 Swans - Griffin Logue
Griffin Logue
Swan Districts/Western Australia
Utility
Height: 193 cm Weight: 92 kg D.O.B: 13/4/98
Bio:
One of the best key defenders in the draft, Logue is just an all round strong prospect. After spending most of last year rowing and playing for Swan Districts colts, Logue really burst onto the scene this year. This year he has made his state, WAFL league debut and now looks a lock for the top ten. A versatile player, Logue has spent most of the year playing as a key defender but has shown he has the athletic capacity to move up the ground and potential become a forward or even a big bodied midfielder with his elite endurance. He's just a class act and rarely makes mistakes with the ball in hand as many other talls in the draft do at times.
Why did the Swans take him?
He was best available and fills a need for young key defenders with the retirement of Ted Richards. Logue is already a massive unit and has shown that he can step straight into senior football unlike other key defenders in the draft. The Swans also lack some versatility in their lineup with very few players able to play up forward and down back or even in the midfield which Logue could plausibly do in the future.
# 11 Gold Coast - Tim English
Tim English
There is no real standout for this pick left and the next 10 players are quite even and not a lot separate them. I was actually hoping to get Berry at this pick but Chris25 beat me to it (good selection btw). You look at the players left and Tim English imo easily has the highest upside left (also has high bust potential imo). I see him first and foremost as a ruck, but he could play a Mark Blicsavs role as a tall winger very well. He is could also be great as a CHB so there are options.
As a ruck, few have come through with better skills, he is one of the better kicks in the draft and I would have no problems with him kicking the ball. His ground level work is exceptional and he wins the ball like a midfielder. Athletically he is above average for a ruckman, he has good speed for a big man, is agile and seems to have a decent leap on him. His actual ruckwork imo has developed this year and he has become better so it gives me hope that in the future he will be a good player. His marking is imo average and it could be an issue of body strength in the contest. He seems to read the play well and whilst not a big disposal winner he has potential here.
The two issues that I primarily have with him are firstly that he does not hit the scoreboard much and needs to develop a forward game. Secondly his body is a huge concern and will take time. He is very thin and lacks a lot of strength. Still he has huge upside and it would not surprise me if he became the number one ruck at the Gold Coast quite quickly. Gold Coast has really failed with rucks developing as expected recently with Gorringe, Smith and Nicholls imo not performing as well as expected. English has the ability and potential to be as good as Dean Cox, and there are not many ruckman that you can say that about. He also has bust potential and could end up like Gorringe. With already taking 3 mids and Scheer most likely on the way too, why not take a shot with English and let him develop.
Also with Gold Coast having 4 picks in the top 10 it was a matter of balancing the picks. I was always going to match with Bowes no matter where he was selected. I wanted SPS with his disposal skills he would add a lot to Gold Coasts midfield, likewise Brodie adds that big body. I like Taranto and have him right up there with those two. So far I am happy with my selections.
Who Else Did I consider?
Other player I considered are the likes of Jack Scrimshaw, Tim English and Oliver Florent. Jack Scrimshaw like Logue is very versatile but struggles to hold down a key post when required unlike Logue. Florent I considered as the Swans midfield looks one paced and could do with some skill and dash but didn't fix the more pressing issue surrounding their KPP depth. English I also considered as he has the highest ceiling in the draft but doesn't fit their needs with the Swans already having Sinclair, Tippett etc.
# 12 North Melbourne - Jack Scrimshaw
Jack Scrimshaw (Sandringham Dragons)
While I'm certain on draft night the name called out will be either Daniel Venables or Ollie Florent, it's hard to ignore the fact Scrimshaw is still on the board. A naturally talented utility who has primarily played in defence before moving through the midfield in stints this season. A prototype midfielder who is that tall mid who can move well and help create for his side.
I wasn't expecting him to be available at this pick, so did not think I'd have the option to draft him. But I think based on talent and potential ceiling, Scrimshaw is the best available at this selection. I think any club would be happy to have him and I really think he has a big scope for improvement. Did have a few games where his kicking was a bit off, but as a whole, he's a reliable kick and certainly will be a best 22 player. I would expect he could get games next year and slot into that back half before eventually progressing into the midfield. Has a nice left boot and has shown he can find the ball with plenty of 20 plus disposal games.
The Sandringham Dragons have certainly not been light-on for talent this year and Scrimshaw is another product who is likely to be called out in the top 10 and certainly the first round. Welcome to the Roos Jack!
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