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douglyzia said:
Is it too much to ask that someone who is nominated as a BLM poster child NOT have a criminal record, and NOT be resisting arrest? Is that too high a bar to set?
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Does everyone with a criminal record deserve to get shot? Do they deserve to die? Does everyone resisting arrest deserve to die? These are cops, these are tough hombres y mujeras, some are even veterans of the United States' recent miltary adventures. Surely, SURELY, an unarmed man could be taken down and restrained by several officers in a way that doesn't kill them?
 
Geelong_Sicko said:
Does everyone with a criminal record deserve to get shot? Do they deserve to die? Does everyone resisting arrest deserve to die? These are cops, these are tough hombres y mujeras, some are even veterans of the United States' recent miltary adventures. Surely, SURELY, an unarmed man could be taken down and restrained by several officers in a way that doesn't kill them?
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Yes, they will do that in the .4 seconds between recognising the person has a ballistic weapon and being shot by it.

Of course, some believe they should just stand there and be eachothers human shields regardless.
 
Geelong_Sicko said:
douglyzia said:
Is it too much to ask that someone who is nominated as a BLM poster child NOT have a criminal record, and NOT be resisting arrest? Is that too high a bar to set?
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Does everyone with a criminal record deserve to get shot? Do they deserve to die? Does everyone resisting arrest deserve to die? These are cops, these are tough hombres y mujeras, some are even veterans of the United States' recent miltary adventures. Surely, SURELY, an unarmed man could be taken down and restrained by several officers in a way that doesn't kill them?
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Hmmmm, yeah. So ... ummm ... is that ... like ... yes, it is too much to ask that someone who is nominated as a BLM poster child NOT have a criminal record, and NOT be resisting arrest?
 
douglyzia said:
Is it too much to ask that someone who is nominated as a BLM poster child NOT have a criminal record, and NOT be resisting arrest? Is that too high a bar to set?
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That rules out most of Trump's White House appointees then.
 
Noidenous said:
Yes, they will do that in the .4 seconds between recognising the person has a ballistic weapon and being shot by it.

Of course, some believe they should just stand there and be eachothers human shields regardless.
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While you do have a point, and I'm not saying police were wrong for wanting to stop a suspect reaching into his car for objects unknown, looking at the footage



it seemed to me that there was ample opportunity for the two officers to apprehend him. I understand he's already been tased at that point to no effect but surely two cops with adequate hand-to-hand training could have got him on the ground without feet or knees on his head restricting his airway as per the George Floyd incident.

I don't think there's any bodycam footage out yet - there may be more to the story than this footage.
 
Geelong_Sicko said:
While you do have a point, and I'm not saying police were wrong for wanting to stop a suspect reaching into his car for objects unknown, looking at the footage



it seemed to me that there was ample opportunity for the two officers to apprehend him. I understand he's already been tased at that point to no effect but surely two cops with adequate hand-to-hand training could have got him on the ground without feet or knees on his head restricting his airway as per the George Floyd incident.

I don't think there's any bodycam footage out yet - there may be more to the story than this footage.
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Short version of the event once again.

Why am I not surprised?
 

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Geelong_Sicko said:
Me thinks you are wrong Noidy, and me also thinks you are playing 'go find it yourself' games. Again. Why not just give me the link, if only to shove it right up me that there may be another angle to this story?
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No, you go find it.

You know it is out there, because I told you it exists. Educate yourself.
 
Geelong_Sicko said:
Nah. I'm not playing this game again. Have a nice night Noidy :)
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Then continue being uninformed and expecting those with superior knowledge to acknowledge your view.

At the same time, ask yourself why you do not know about it already.

Hint: That I did not link you to it is the incorrect answer.
 
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Noidenous said:
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What a bunch of fascists.
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FMD.. that is disgusting.

Cant imagine why the polls underestimate Trump can you?

Just for anyone who still thinks the left is the side that has reason, compassion and is on "right side of history".

www.google.com

BLM protesters accost white diners for not raising fists

A group of young Black Lives Matters protesters harassed several white diners in Washington, DC, on Monday night for not raising their fists in solidarity. One of the dramatic scenes, which has sin…
www.google.com www.google.com
 
seeing some videos on twitter that is making me think the US is on the verge of a civil war. Might not happen in a few weeks time, but when Trump wins again shit is really gonna kick off.

The vids ive seen tonight are BLM rioters facing retaliation from gun owners. Probably not safe to share on here.
 
Wheres the BLM outrage for this?

www.nbcnewyork.com

3 Arrested in Shooting Death of Bronx Father Who Was Walking With 6-Year-Old Kid

Police have arrested three men in connection to the fatal drive-by shooting of a father walking with his 6-year-old daughter earlier this month.
www.nbcnewyork.com www.nbcnewyork.com

Or this..


Or this..

www.syracuse.com

42-year-old Syracuse shooting victim identified as hard-working father, church-goer, pastor says

The shooting victim was dropped off at Upstate University Hospital in Syracuse, where he died.
www.syracuse.com www.syracuse.com

Or this..

www.pix11.com

3 Coney Island shootings leave 2 dead, 4 injured: NYPD

CONEY ISLAND, Brooklyn — Three shootings in Coney Island this weekend left two people dead and four others injured, according to the NYPD. The most recent shooting happened on West 23rd Street, nea…
www.pix11.com www.pix11.com

Or this..

www.ny1.com

Bronx Man Charged with Murder After Stabbing, Setting Teen on Fire

A man is charged with murder in the case.
www.ny1.com www.ny1.com

Or this..

 
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Noidenous said:
Then continue being uninformed and expecting those with superior knowledge to acknowledge your view.

At the same time, ask yourself why you do not know about it already.

Hint: That I did not link you to it is the incorrect answer.
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See, normal people in a two-way argument will have a bit of to-and-fro. One presents some information. The other says "I have better information." Normally, the other person will show that information to further the dialogue, or at the very least put person #1 in their place. You don't have to respect person #1 in the least, but in respecting the dialogue you show that you are at least an honest broker.

If you say you have better information but never show it, what's the point? This isn't poker, bluffing the other player/s won't win you anything. General shit-stirring and trolling, yeah its fun but when the other participants just aren't biting you have to really ask yourself 'why did I even bother?'

Having said that I still love ya Noidy. Absolutely no hate here. Keep up them monkeyshines, kiddo ;)
 

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