Bluemour Discussion Thread XVIII - Please Sir, Can We Have More?

[DangerousD]

One thing that hasn't really been discussed is what we'd be prepared to pay for Coniglio if he chose Carlton, given we're also apparently in the hunt for players like Papley and Jack Martin.

And before people start jumping down my throat, I know he's a RFA. But if GWS match our offer, then we'd be forced to trade for him.

Sam McClure discussed this tonight and it does make sense. If Cogs chooses us or the Dawks through free agency, GWS just match the offer. They're fully aware he won't be with them next year, but will get more through a trade than through free agency. If Andrew Dillon from the AFL asks how they are going to fit him into their current salary cap, they just say "we'll either trade other players, or adjust existing contracts to create space".

Apparently it's one of the reasons we can't start negotiating with other players until it all becomes clearer. It's also another reason why we would likely be interested in Ellis through FA if we don't have a lot of trade currency remaining.

So it may all get down to what we'd be prepared to give up for him if by chance he chooses us.

I brought this up last year and was shouted down for it. The risk is, if the player then says ok, ill stay, then the whole club would go to crap. Its also possible that clubs operate in good faith more than what i would expect.

The Giants CEO has already come out and publicly said, that if Cogs leaves, they aren't matching.

 

[gab213]

This tylerdurden ITK seems awfully confident. I don’t know what is going on anymore

Assume that nothing is going on at the moment and you will feel a whole lot better.

 

[DangerousD]

I'm not sure they will match, but the motives for doing so are clear.

If they do match but Cogs is intent on leaving, they'll get a hell of a lot more for him via trade than via free agency compensation.

Would a club risk it?

What if the player took his chance in the pre season draft because he is pissed at his club.

We would hold pick 3-4 and be offering the biggest contract by a stretch.

If that was the case, he could nominate a 2 year deal at $3.2M and i doubt anyone would take a risk on that.

 

[gab213]

Oh my god my paddle is seriously wearing thin.

Try a spiked paddle, might be more effective

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

I brought this up last year and was shouted down for it. The risk is, if the player then says ok, ill stay, then the whole club would go to crap. Its also possible that clubs operate in good faith more than what i would expect.

The Giants CEO has already come out and publicly said, that if Cogs leaves, they aren't matching.

Interesting point...logically GWS should match and trade, but there may be a 'good faith' factor in negotiations.
Anyway, it'll all play out over time although the natives are becoming restless

 

[LanceRomance]

This tylerdurden ITK seems awfully confident. I don’t know what is going on anymore

Tyler is a figment of your imagination

 

[carlton_99]

No

no

So you are saying we will get all three? Is this based on a source?

 

[Benaly28]

So with Swans after Joe Daniher they may require another pick inside 10 hence maybe why our pick 7/8 May be required to help that trade.Papley might still be on.

 

[Brezsa]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...................

Are you saying No?

 

[jooce8891]

Are you saying No?

no

 

[blue healer]

LOL - go for Coniglio|Martin|Papley


get Ellis

And de-list Daisy.

 

[davis_756]

Are you saying No?

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 0*gasp for air* Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo......

 

[Brezsa]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 0*gasp for air* Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo......

I’ll take that as a maybe

 

[Bostonian]

To give docherty as much time when he’s ready to go play

Docherty was the best defender in his position in the league before he got injured.

Ellis is a horrible defender.

 

[KohPhi]

Surely he chose us which is why they’ve stepped in. Gil despises Carlton. We have received the least amount of free kicks all year

Take a Panadol and lay down. You're just randomly talking shit now.

 

[reubsblues]

Time for a self imposed ban I think
This place is doing my head in
To many Walt Disney's on here

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

b70, EB, ericpascoe, TRP, MS3 what do you think of this?

Jesus, give it a rest already!

 

[LanceRomance]

There is a fair amount of trolling going on.

The journos are drumming up intrigue

And carlton fans like revving up Hawks fans and vice versa.

 

[JustaBattler]

And de-list Daisy.

Its not like the Club is run by idjots is my take on the matter....

 

[Coops93]

Has anyone noticed that as soon as someone in the public sphere says "Coniglio is going here" big footy goes nuts with people saying the opposite?

I must say Ive noticed it more from Hawks board when someone is confident he's going to Carlton, but we haven't been immune either.

 

[dazdoggy]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...................

Yes I agree. He is probably good on the wing but nothing special.

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Time for a self imposed ban I think
This place is doing my head in
Too many Walt Disney's on here

And grammar nazis

 

[reubsblues]

And grammar nazis

Good one champ

 

[thylacine60]

Oh my god my paddle is seriously wearing thin.

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Good one champ

I’ve reached a pinnacle. I’m a champ again!