Bluemour Discussion Thread XVIII - Please Sir, Can We Have More?

[Siegfried]

So Leon Cameron is confident. Carlton is confident. Hawthorn is confident. Hmmm

I think I posted this the other day. Makes complete sense to me. Coniglio/Petroro are going to be very positive towards any club they're speaking with, which will make that club feel confident. Dollars aside, the feedback to clubs will be inherently positive. Same story with Shiel last year. So the ITKs are getting the good mail from clubs who are genuinely confident.

 

[In The Blue]

Martin - Dogs
Ellis will come
Pap 50/50
Cogs will stay or hawks

 

[mrkyuss]

Martin - Dogs
Ellis will come
Pap 50/50
Cogs will stay or hawks

Gross

 

[KingCharles]

Martin - Dogs
Ellis will come
Pap 50/50
Cogs will stay or hawks

Nope.
Ellis - Bombers
Papley - north
Martin - Carlton
Cogs - Carlton

 

[chunkylover53]

Serious obsession with Coniglio in here. Do people expect an update every day?

He prob hasn’t made up his mind yet. He’s got heaps of time to sort it out.

 

[Duigan Alley34]

Why would anyone feed him info?

This was my first thought. Why would we give him information that we didn't want released?

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

Serious obsession with Coniglio in here. Do people expect an update every day?

He prob hasn’t made up his mind yet. He’s got heaps of time to sort it out.

I’d say yes.... but I’m not sure

 

[jooce8891]

Serious obsession with Coniglio in here. Do people expect an update every day?

He prob hasn’t made up his mind yet. He’s got heaps of time to sort it out.

i need to know when he shits, showers, what he has for breakfast, lunch and dinner, when he goes to sleep and when he wakes up.......................

 

[SurreyBlue]

Don’t be surprised if the AFL manipulate the rules to make us ‘trade’ for Coniglio as well.......

 

[Opine]

I think I posted this the other day. Makes complete sense to me. Coniglio/Petroro are going to be very positive towards any club they're speaking with, which will make that club feel confident. Dollars aside, the feedback to clubs will be inherently positive. Same story with Shiel last year. So the ITKs are getting the good mail from clubs who are genuinely confident.

Hmm, that’s not so difficult to counter. Just put a reasonable time frame on the life of the offer, after which the player manager can no longer continue to bank offers; if, and its merely an if, thats what he/she is doing.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Serious obsession with Coniglio in here. Do people expect an update every day?

He prob hasn’t made up his mind yet. He’s got heaps of time to sort it out.

Correct. No decision.

 

[SickQwon]

Martin - Dogs
Ellis will come
Pap 50/50
Cogs will stay or hawks

Yikes!

Guess we better pack 'er up and go home.

 

[JustaBattler]

LOL - go for Coniglio|Martin|Papley


get Ellis

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

One thing that hasn't really been discussed is what we'd be prepared to pay for Coniglio if he chose Carlton, given we're also apparently in the hunt for players like Papley and Jack Martin.

And before people start jumping down my throat, I know he's a RFA. But if GWS match our offer, then we'd be forced to trade for him.

Sam McClure discussed this tonight and it does make sense. If Cogs chooses us or the Dawks through free agency, GWS just match the offer. They're fully aware he won't be with them next year, but will get more through a trade than through free agency. If Andrew Dillon from the AFL asks how they are going to fit him into their current salary cap, they just say "we'll either trade other players, or adjust existing contracts to create space".

Apparently it's one of the reasons we can't start negotiating with other players until it all becomes clearer. It's also another reason why we would likely be interested in Ellis through FA if we don't have a lot of trade currency remaining.

So it may all get down to what we'd be prepared to give up for him if by chance he chooses us.

 

[BossMoves]

Martin - Dogs
Ellis will come
Pap 50/50
Cogs will stay or hawks

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

I feel like I'm on a roadtrip in a car full of children
Are we there yet
are we there yet
are we there yet

 

[KingCharles]

Martin - Dogs
Ellis will come
Pap 50/50
Cogs will stay or hawks

b70, EB, ericpascoe, TRP, MS3 what do you think of this?

 

[Blue and Blue]

In the Blue is an ITK

Yet another ?
Must be lots of fake info being leaked.

 

[Jeremias]

Fair call on the flag. But just rekon we got talent underneath that will be better. If it holds back a spot for say Stocker i say no.

Ellis is at his best out on a wing. Don't think he's competing with Stocker for a spot in the side.

Also don't think there's anything wrong with bolstering our depth via free agency, even if we don't land the big fish. There are plenty of options out there who can improve us from next season and I think Ellis is one such player.

 

[Stamos]

b70, EB, ericpascoe, TRP, MS3 what do you think of this?

**** mate, chill out

 

[Bearded Carpenter]

Oh my god my paddle is seriously wearing thin.

Lend ya 4b2 for a while if ya want

 

[Fat Kent]

Hmmmm ITB told us about McGovern on June 13..

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Lend ya 4b2 for a while if ya want

Cheers cob

 

[Jeremias]

They said months ago they wont match. And why would they if a player doesn't wish to be there?

I'm not sure they will match, but the motives for doing so are clear.

If they do match but Cogs is intent on leaving, they'll get a hell of a lot more for him via trade than via free agency compensation.

 

[Keyza]

Gil Corruption

It's all good. Ken Wood will be all over it.