Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

There’s also Jack as well. Probably enough to carry on one list

Was taking his game up another level right as he done the knee when playing the 3rd forward & 2nd ruck role, thought that role suited him well he became another big size midfielder in the contest when in dispute, added great pressure and won his share of the ball as well…

I’m also coming around to the idea of him potentially being played/trialled in defense besides concern with his leg speed and contested marking, the rest of his game along with his footy nous and competiveness might be well worth exploring…

 

[Arr0w]

Is it a rule players need an offer to be able to be traded? In which case if Owies doesn't have one yet, he'd need one before any trade can happen.

Generally, if players don't have any contract whatsoever, they get delisted, like Stocker

Then you have Dow, that was offered a small contract, had a better offer from the Saints (and greater chance of game time), so he was traded

 

[swuzzlebubble]

And this is exactly why the offers for Owies are not coming…yet.

Aren't we in this situation because other clubs apparently offered more than we would match?

 

[Soapy V]

And this is exactly why the offers for Owies are not coming…yet.

If clubs think there is a small chance that we don’t even offer a contract, they will be waiting for him to become a DFA.

It’s all ducks and drakes and dependent on so many other things

The way it was put to me is we need spots and have too many small forwards on one list. I think Williams moving forward and on a big deal made it more of a squeeze

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Generally

Was understanding there's an actual rule, but Soapy's point that contracts run to after trade week would make it moot.

 

[Arr0w]

Was understanding there's an actual rule, but Soapy's point that contracts run to after trade week would make it moot.

Yes and no, plenty of clubs have already delisted players

But, really nothing to do with whether Owies has been offered a contract

 

[Wickzki]

It’s all ducks and drakes and dependent on so many other things

The way it was put to me is we need spots and have too many small forwards on one list. I think Williams moving forward and on a big deal made it more of a squeeze

Moreso the way the game has headed and is heading.

Straight up goals are less valued than ever before (an "anyone can kick them" mentality which I disagree a bit with) and pressure is an absolute must.

There's good goal scorers who just don't offer enough pressure not on an AFL list these days. That's an undisputed fact.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

If they're like my physio they'll give him some exercises and say come back in two weeks

Is your physio Andy McKay….

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Yes and no, plenty of clubs have already delisted players

But, really nothing to do with whether Owies has been offered a contract

Ok but my question was can we trade Owies if we have made no offer to him for 2025

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Ok but my question was can we trade Owies if we have made no offer to him for 2025

Yes.

 

[Arr0w]

Ok but my question was can we trade Owies if we have made no offer to him for 2025

By the rules, not sure, unlikely though as he could just wait his time, if he had no contract until the 31st

 

[swuzzlebubble]

By the rules, not sure, unlikely though as he could just wait his time, if he had no contract until the 31st

Assuming the player is agreeable to the trade

 

[Arr0w]

Assuming the player is agreeable to the trade

Absolutely, like Martin when he wanted out of GC

 

[Smegger]

Think Port's happy enough with Georgiadis, Marshall and Finlayson.

Trade Lord, draft a key to develop

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Yeah they have options up forward but i thought Lord WAS the key forward they've been developing.

Maybe Finlayson will be used down back if Houston goes? I don't watch them too often but IIRC he's been used as a swingman in def before.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Maybe Finlayson will be used down back if Houston goes?

Sinn?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Trade Lord, draft a key to develop

Brisbane need one

 

[Wickzki]

Brisbane need one

Think Brisbane will surprise people unless a gun presents himself.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Brisbane need one

I wouldn’t be surprised if Lions ask Tigers about Tom Lynch.

 

[Coona Blues]

Interesting how he mentioned key position depth as an item on the agenda.

Tauru, Trainor the only two tall enough in the top 30.

Only two in the projected top 30. There will be changes to the popular “rankings” at the draft proper.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Lions ask Tigers about Tom Lynch

Wonder how that works for Tigers?

 

[myblueroan]

A lot of what you mentioned doesn't really relate to Houston. We do have an issue with depth for KPDs but Houston in no way helps us with that. If anything it hinders our ability to trade for or pick up players in that draft that can play in that position. In terms of half backs we have Saad and Newman who are locks in our top 10-12 players picked each week. Then have Cowan, Boyd, Wilson who also play that HB/BP role - I personally have Cowan/Boyd in my early best 23 for next season. Then on top of that we have O.Hollands who played well at HB in the last few matches of this season.

If we can get Houston for a reasonable deal I am all for it - he is obviously a quality player. But compromising our ability to hit the draft or trade for other pieces that actually fill required positions (i.e., small forward, outside midfielder, key position defender) just to bring in another star that doesn't fill a real positional need doesn't make sense to me.

I'm aware he isn't a KPD. I pay attention to all the posts and also google!

I got into more generally how our defence is looking.
You make a good point, but to get durable quality in...real talent ...it's gonna lift all the backs. I would hope we are already developing a KPD.. maybe we'll get a moneyball back up for thus year, and draft someone.
It should not preclude us having a red hot crack at Houston..and a chance to play prelim into a GF.
I do not want to watch another team take advantage of his talent.
Ww shouldn't be too stubborn.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Wonder how that works for Tigers?

The state their list is in I would take what you can get for him.

 

[Juddrockz]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Lions ask Tigers about Tom Lynch.

Can see the Lions picking up Membrey.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Can see the Lions picking up Membrey.

Yep another option

 

[HarryFlashman]

Think Brisbane will surprise people unless a gun presents himself.

Levi is already up here & he wants to go around again!

You know he will at least bring the ball to ground & they are use to dodgy kicking forwards