Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[Lace_Out]

No inside knowledge… but I think for his own safety and wellness, Marchbank should retire. He’s been injured (in many different ways) for essentially his whole career. If nothing else, he deserves the break.

Agree. Too much heart for his own good, his spacial awareness doesn't complement that.

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[Sin City]

J.Martin to St.kilda

Wow, SOS really has never been wrong in his life hey

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Marchbank, the poor bugger, would probably injure his wrist signing the new contract...

“Hey Suri - sign the contract”.

Sorted.

 

[Pinnell]

People forget Martin was one of our best during the finals run last year. I’m generally supportive of letting him go if his salary expectations are too high, but people shouldn’t act like we’ve delisted some 5 game spud. Pretty disappointing not to see him u der a different high performance unit.

Personally I have my doubts as to how hard he worked to get on the field this year…. I’ve had mates work in the industry (head trainer/physios) and they are aware of players that were more than not, happy to be in the rehab group , take the $, and then move on somewhere else. Rinse repeat

 

[slashin_velvet]

“Hey Suri - sign the contract”.

Sorted.

Torn vocal chords...1-2 weeks

 

[Lace_Out]

Aneurysm more like it.

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[BlueJet]

I thought he had already committed to coaching in local footy? I can't remember which club but a club in the Essendon District Footy League.

Meant to be playing at Strathmore.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Meant to be playing at Strathmore.

Really? Hadn’t heard that, I hope he’s not as the Mores need availability not another player stuck in the medical room and a ton of kids coming through the u18’s

Mores do it best when they invest in the young blokes, not broken down ex AFL footballers


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[Blue1980]

People claiming that Dow was going to embarrass Carlton by averaging 30 touches and a goal a game at the Saints

To be fair I thought these people were a minority and stupid, and I still think that

 

[Arr0w]

To be fair I thought these people were a minority and stupid, and I still think that

Absolutely

 

[btdg]

People forget Martin was one of our best during the finals run last year. I’m generally supportive of letting him go if his salary expectations are too high, but people shouldn’t act like we’ve delisted some 5 game spud. Pretty disappointing not to see him u der a different high performance unit.

Was he though?

In the 9 game winning streak that took us to finals, he was listed by the club as being in the best players 3x. The club typically named between 6-9 players in wins. In that streak he was fairly clearly behind Cripps, Walsh, Curnow, McKay, Weitering, Cerra, Silvagni, Newman, Saad, Acres and Docherty and in terms of impact was thus roughly on par with Hewett, Kemp and Fisher (who were all named 3x as well)

In the 'finals run' his contribution was:

• 2 goals, 12 disposals, 2 tackles, not named as one of the 6 'best' vs Sydney
• DNP vs Melbourne (in this instance due to suspension)
• 2 goals, 10 disposals, 4 tackles, not named as one of the 6 'best' vs Brisbane

So his 2023 year was something like: "Injured for 11 games, returned to be a solid B-grader (12th-15th best player on the team) during a season defining run, made a contribution without standing out in one final, and was unavailable for a third final).

This year, he played in three matches and was injured in two of them.

Jack Martin at Carlton was a solid player when available, which was unfortunately only about a third of the time. He turns 30 in January... it is time to move on. Just cannot plan around him being a part of anything at this stage.

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

To be fair I thought these people were a minority and stupid, and I still think that

He's been gone for how long?
Yet one side of the argument keep going on about it.
Just let sleeping dogs lie.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Wow, SOS really has never been wrong in his life hey

Thought something similar.

He really sticks to his guns, even when they've backfired

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[BlueTongue]

Personally I have my doubts as to how hard he worked to get on the field this year…. I’ve had mates work in the industry (head trainer/physios) and they are aware of players that were more than not, happy to be in the rehab group , take the $, and then move on somewhere else. Rinse repeat

I think this said it all - his 'enthusiasm' at becoming a Blue:

 

[Jimmae]

Was he though?

In the 9 game winning streak that took us to finals, he was listed by the club as being in the best players 3x. The club typically named between 6-9 players in wins. In that streak he was fairly clearly behind Cripps, Walsh, Curnow, McKay, Weitering, Cerra, Silvagni, Newman, Saad, Acres and Docherty and in terms of impact was thus roughly on par with Hewett, Kemp and Fisher (who were all named 3x as well)

In the 'finals run' his contribution was:

• 2 goals, 12 disposals, 2 tackles, not named as one of the 6 'best' vs Sydney
• DNP vs Melbourne (in this instance due to suspension)
• 2 goals, 10 disposals, 4 tackles, not named as one of the 6 'best' vs Brisbane

So his 2023 year was something like: "Injured for 11 games, returned to be a solid B-grader (12th-15th best player on the team) during a season defining run, made a contribution without standing out in one final, and was unavailable for a third final).

This year, he played in three matches and was injured in two of them.

Jack Martin at Carlton was a solid player when available, which was unfortunately only about a third of the time. He turns 30 in January... it is time to move on. Just cannot plan around him being a part of anything at this stage.

This is a bit revisionist and falling back on pure statistics. He had multiple moments where he directly fought off two opponents to take contested marks.

He did ridiculous things last year, stuff I've never seen on a football field before. Elijah Hollands was starting to show off a mercurial element too at the end of this* season.

It's right that he's going, but we need players who are willing to try the difficult when they have the skills and it will open up the game. Voss cultivates lemmings, and they don't win premierships.

 

[T2B_]

I think this said it all - his 'enthusiasm' at becoming a Blue:

Dear god that was awkward lol.

Agree with Jimmae above though, his toolset and talent was pretty hard to ignore and could do some ridiculous things. Wish he could have worked out as he was exactly what we needed.

 

[Stickitupthem]

Doesn't surprise me. They're desperately seeking a defender to replace the retired Murphy. Market is bereft of cheap KPD options. Not surprised they'd consider him. Would be surprised if he was who they landed on ultimately and even more surprised if his body held up in that role.

Will always love Marchy so all the best whenever he goes (including there).

If he takes a spot that’s great cause he would be lucky to play 3 games In 2025

 

[TheReal99prelim]

People claiming that Dow was going to embarrass Carlton by averaging 30 touches and a goal a game at the Saints

Really...they claimed exactly that?

Happy to be proven wrong if you can show us the evidence they said that

PS. My only beef was that I felt he wasn't given enough opportunities at senior level last year when he seemed to be playing well in the 2nds

 

[Arr0w]

Really...they claimed exactly that?

Or did you just add mayonnaise to the sentence?

Or was it one or two (a miniscule percentage of BF posters)

Happy to be proven wrong if you can show us the evidence they said that

PS. My only beef was that I felt he wasn't given enough opportunities at senior level last year when he seemed to be playing well in the 2nds

Think it's pretty clear that he is a limited player, with us and the Saints

 

[WalshYouLegend]

He'd tear his bicep picking up the pen...

He would faint just thinking about picking up the pen

 

[katmanblue]

He won't be playing anywhere as he can't get on the park to start with. Hammy is cooked

Blagging a paycheck like Carlos Kaiser.

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[ferrisb]

Blagging a paycheck like Carlos Kaiser.

Omg, how have I never heard of this guy?

Incredible story.

 

[Worm4]

Blagging a paycheck like Carlos Kaiser.

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The stuff of legends - the fact he was at Flamengo three times is extraordinary

 

[Magruder]

Omg, how have I never heard of this guy?

Incredible story.

Me neither…. Went straight to google and thought this reads like “ripping yarns” or “Comic Strip Presents”.

‘Wanted to be a footballer but didn’t want to play football’

 

[myblueroan]

Omg, how have I never heard of this guy?

Incredible story.

The 'catch me if you can' story of soccer world.