Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[Beyond Blue]

l don't believe that is the intention at all.
The club is committed to get Cerra back to full fitness & durability hence his upcoming trip overseas.
He is young & should be back to his best form next year.
lf Houston does eventuate more likely to be trading a F1st into this year with a club that has multiple 1st rounders & something else possibly with Carroll & Owies trades.

Salary cap will be bursting at the seams if we add Houston, keep Cerra and have to re-sign Weitering and TDK. If it has to happen then I’d rather lose him than any of Cripps, Walsh, Weitering, Harry, Charlie and TDK.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Salary cap will be bursting at the seams if we add Houston, keep Cerra and have to re-sign Weitering and TDK. If it has to happen then I’d rather lose him than any of Cripps, Walsh, Weitering, Harry, Charlie and TDK.

Need to also factor in the salaries going out and the increase in TPP.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Lord ready to step in

Lord taking Cerras spot to get Houston in would be good business

 

[Blue_Fusion]

l don't believe that is the intention at all.
The club is committed to get Cerra back to full fitness & durability hence his upcoming trip overseas.
He is young & should be back to his best form next year.
lf Houston does eventuate more likely to be trading a F1st into this year with a club that has multiple 1st rounders & something else possibly with Carroll & Owies trades.

Should he?

And you are certain this Qatar treatment will fix his history of reoccurring hamstring issues?

It's a lot to bank on if you're Carlton...

Also consider we haven't kept many first round picks for a while, trading another out for another hb in his late 20's (like we did with Saad) isn't ideal list management, in fact it's likely to be detrimental long term...

 

[Michael Jezz]

Not a fan of selling on Cerra at his absolute lowest value tbh.

Fair point but he will never be a top 10 pick. So do you take a late first. We over paid with pick 6

 

[The Bighouse]

Does anyone here have any intel on something deano35 posted on TC saying that Young, Cerra and Kennedy have been told that they can explore trades id they wish

This is now really concerning if true because it has the potential to destroy the most important part of a team, it's harmony

Young is fine
Cerra and Kennedy...WTF????????????????????

No harm in perusing if beneficial to both parties.
Young; was reportedly on the shopping list mid-year.

Cerra; has had murmurs of trade potential & re-signing (not that that means much). Could be discontent on his continual reoccurring injury time. Poor form this season when out there.

Kennedy; could have some trade value and C.Lord can fill the midfield position from underneath. A poor kick into fwd50, a big issue for the team. Had some good games but didn’t stand up as a medium forward as required. Hewett gets the not ahead of him.
Not a big loss in the scheme of things of midfield variety wanted. O & E. Hollands can also fill the breach.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Lord taking Cerras spot to get Houston in would be good business

Be even better if Cerra & Kennedy helps us somehow retain pick 11 with Houston coming in….

 

[macky99]

Should he?

And you are certain this Qatar treatment will fix his history of reoccurring hamstring issues?

It's a lot to bank on if you're Carlton...

Also consider we haven't kept many first round picks for a while, trading another out for another hb in his late 20's (like we did with Saad) isn't ideal list management, in fact it's likely to be detrimental long term...

l am happy to be proven wrong, but it is not on the agenda to trade Cerra, more intent on getting him fit for next year.

l am not convinced getting rid of our third best mid for a 28 year old is improving our list, just leaves another hole.

 

[mochacinolatte]

Lord hype needs to settle down a bit...

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Lord hype needs to settle down a bit...

Agree - missed being drafted 12 months ago ... but looks a nice little pick up.

 

[carlton_99]

Lord hype needs to settle down a bit...

Exactly this. Looking like a good pick up but has played two games against St Kilda and West Coast. Showed some great signs but in no universe is he filling a Cerra hole in 25'

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Some would say the Cerra hole would be filled by Houston…. both half backs….

 

[bmaurizio]

Agree, if by trading any two combination of Cerra, Kennedy, Young, Owies or Pittonet, potentially tradable players, can help snare Dan Houston

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Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

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Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

and Malcom Rasas and Nick Haynes

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Nick Haynes

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

whistle retaining pick 11 , another 2nd rounder pick say a pick 25 to 30, then yes.

 

[Ezayyak]

We must think Cerra's hammies are gone. Only reason I can think of for trading him.

 

[macky99]

Agree, if by trading any of Cerra, Kennedy, Young, Owies and Pittonet, all potentially tradable players, can help snare Dan Houston and Malcom Rasas and Nick Haynes whistle retaining pick 11 , possibly another 2nd rounder pick 25 to 30 then yes.

Gee Houston is 28 next year, & Haynes is early 30's bringing in multiple players in that age profile & giving away picks & players is not a receipe for ongoing success.
Personally believe going to the draft hard makes much more sense, if Houston is going to be too costly we need to walk away, future 1st traded into this year makes sense.

 

[macky99]

We must think Cerra's hammies are gone. Only reason I can think of for trading him.

Love the way people take a rumour here as gospel.

 

[The Fantom]

HS yeah they get it right all the time

Yeh just as often as BF gets it right.

 

[FairKouta]

Incredibly stupid to trade cerra under any circumstances

 

[RPCB]

Incredibly stupid to trade cerra under any circumstances

You’re talking to people who are name dropping draftees like they are tied to the draft pick and not to luck that they will be available at that selection. Basically trading Adam Cerra for a nameless draftee is pretty damn silly. We know how good he is without the injuries and he is 24 year old. Trading him for a random 18 year old is pretty wild stuff.

Lord hype needs to settle down a bit...

As is turning Brodie Kemp into a 3rd forward after his 4 goal performance against the worst side in the last 30 years. He did shit up forward against St Kilda and Brisbane.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

l am happy to be proven wrong, but it is not on the agenda to trade Cerra, more intent on getting him fit for next year.

l am not convinced getting rid of our third best mid for a 28 year old is improving our list, just leaves another hole.

No use being our third best mid if he's spending the majority of the season in the rehab group...

What have we learnt from Marchbank, Cunners, Martin etc?

There's no doubt the club is very concerned about his durability... hence sending him off to Qatar...

As for Houston, I'm with you on that... but I'll extend that to getting rid of our F1 as well. People think Houston is going to solve ball movement issues, he will do so only if gameplan and midfield is improved. He is not going to nail long kicks up the wing any better than who we currently have. We need a midfield mix that spreads and opens up targets for him to hit.

I'd rather we focus on improving our midfield mix and if we're looking at obtaining R1 picks and/or trading our F1, it should be to facilitate that area as #1 priority imo.

 

[bmaurizio]

Gee Houston is 28 next year, & Haynes is early 30's bringing in multiple players in that age profile & giving away picks & players is not a receipe for ongoing success.
Personally believe going to the draft hard makes much more sense, if Houston is going to be too costly we need to walk away, future 1st traded into this year makes sense.

Sure Haynes and Houstain ain’t youngsters, players these days play to mid thirties comfortably.
They would strengthen our defense, and enhance delivery to our aces Charlie and Harry.
Young talent too is very important, especially with the Tassie team addition after 2025.
So that’s why we must retain picks 11& 25, add the Comporeale lads, not to shabby a haul.

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Lord hype needs to settle down a bit...

Not really mate imo. Has heaps of upside, get a big pre-season into him and watch him become best 22 next season.

 

[Arr0w]

You’re talking to people who are name dropping draftees like they are tied to the draft pick and not to luck that they will be available at that selection. Basically trading Adam Cerra for a nameless draftee is pretty damn silly. We know how good he is without the injuries and he is 24 year old. Trading him for a random 18 year old is pretty wild stuff.

Don't think all the comments relate to purely gaining picks for a draftee, perhaps targeting other ready-made players

I agree though, if he can get his body right, we shouldn't be looking at trading him, as he does have a slight point of difference compared to other mids

As is turning Brodie Kemp into a 3rd forward after his 4 goal performance against the worst side in the last 30 years. He did shit up forward against St Kilda and Brisbane.

I have been critical of Kemp, as a defender. As a forward against bigger opposition, he showed good signs, and might add a dangerous option playing 3rd wheel to Harry and Charlie

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Exactly this. Looking like a good pick up but has played two games against St Kilda and West Coast. Showed some great signs but in no universe is he filling a Cerra hole in 25'

Okay, but what about a Kennedy hole. If Bam Bam gets traded, think Lord can step up and excel after he builds his tank in

the off season.

 

[HBF]

Glad we are being active here, sounds/feels like we have a number of considerations

Our window is now, so we have to do whatever we can to get us to the last Saturday in Sept. Houston makes us a better team instantly