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I have found myself saying F Collingwood many times over the years....
Sounds familiar.
Also think Worpel was the consensus #1 a year out and ended up going in the 50s(?).
That final junior year gives clubs a lot more information to work with.
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He came in, scrapped our existing list for parts & slashed salaries - you don't do that unless you're thick-skinned.
At the trade table he was certainly creative but he also carried a certain reputation for staring down opposing list managers, which is why some were pining for SOS' return once the Saad deal had gone through.
I doubt for a second that when discussing a deal that SOS at any point was saying anything to the effect of "c'mon mate, this deal is great for both of us" & some of his commentary on TR validates my perspective.
It's all part of the caper but pretending that it was ever about achieving an equitable outcome is the stuff of fantasy.
Austin appears to have a different approach and frankly, there are a number of ways to get the job done, frankly, I couldn't care less about the cult of personality or the identity of the person performing the role, I just want the job done well.
I think he was way off the mark though, we have had a huge amount of first round picks over the previous 5 drafts, plus we have brought in players like Setterfield who were high picks a couple of years before we selected them. The last thing we needed was another 18 year old.How much have we seen from Stocker, Philp, Cottrell Kemp, Honey, Ramsay etc to suggest that we're set for the younger age range?
Personally, I wouldn't consider a soon to be 23yo Weitering to be either a kid or a developing prospect.
With that in mind, I understand where Montagna is coming from as outside of Walsh, our strongest representation of younger footballers are in the 22-23 age bracket where they are expected to now be playing some reasonably consistent footy.
What chance Dodo even remotely matching the 2015 haul of Weitering, Curnow, McKay and JSOS?
Oliver, Bont, Sidebottom all bolters who wouldn't have had the chance to had this been their draft year.
Clubs with top picks this year would miss out on any Oliver types who could have had a big draft year but weren't necessarily in calculations in their underage year. There's no doubt picks this year are worth less.
Out of interest how much do you think he is worth, we would be offering and others offering? I think the difference could well be within that $500k range.I must be missing something
I am sure the club will secure him on a decent contract without paying overs because of what clubs like North are offering
A talented player, in a club about to play finals, he and his manager would be well aware of what that means
Where would Cripps have gone if nobody saw him play in his U18 year?
JSOS is an interesting one.
Makes me think that he's well and truly in the projected best 22 from the coaches perspective. Had every reason to seek a trade, and if he wasn't in our plans we'd have had an opportunity to cash in a bit. Hopefully all the drama has been brushed off and he lines up R1 on a forward flank. Could see a highly motivated JSOS next year, wanting to prove a point.
I don't disagree with your viewpoint at all mate.I think he was way off the mark though, we have had a huge amount of first round picks over the previous 5 drafts, plus we have brought in players like Setterfield who were high picks a couple of years before we selected them. The last thing we needed was another 18 year old.
I understand the point you are making and that so far the development of our young mids has been disappointing given the large outlay, but there is a lot of upside still there. We desperately need to start winning games and playing finals now or else we are going to start to have to overpay to retain the talent we have, this is where he is wrong, we needed to improve our starting 22 NOW.
Conversely, he will be very upbeat about his beloved Saints, who made some good trades last year. Really, who in the Saints 22 and under at the start of the year were showing great potential before they started going all in for the now? Gresham (older than Weiters) and Hunter Clark( and even he was more potential than anything substantial on field). They had a few make very good strides this year (Coffield and King), but before this year there was very little to be excited about in their young brigade.PLAYERCARDSTART11Hunter Clark
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In short, we need to start winning and the notion that we needed to hold on a while longer and concentrate on more 18 year olds is ridiculous.
Yep. Can’t hold his ground in one v ones well enough. Can’t ‘plant’ and keep his opponent away from the ball. You see this at training. I still believe he’s a good third tall intercept option. Releasing Plow.Marchbank doesn't have the size and body work of other undersized defenders
Port just added to their deficiency, Aliir, despite their defenders having better body work
North have actually done surprisingly well in this trade period especially considering they don’t even have a coach to pitch there future direction.If I were North or Essendon - I would be putting my million dollars towards SoS before players and coaches & I am sure the AFL would bend the rules in North's case. North Melbourne's admin have been underestimated since the early 70s
You can add Cuners to that
Somewhat unlikely given most of the better talls will be gone
Cox, take Reid early, he could sure up the backline
BB, I only hope one thing for the CFC next season....I don’t care who is in the best 22 as long as they earn and deserve their spot in that team.
If players are getting a game based on form and output and not reputation we are in for some exciting times
Go Blues
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Out of interest how much do you think he is worth, we would be offering and others offering? I think the difference could well be within that $500k range.
I think the landscape has changed abit with some big Vic clubs along with North now having huge cap room and in desperate need of someone like him.
Look at someone like Grundy, Cogs, Martin etc they still have to get paid a million dollars plus to stay at their sides because of what offers other teams make. We may be on the rise but that doesn’t mean we are immune to paying huge contracts to players, it’s more about how much is McKay worth to us? Is he the guy we punt on to become a top level player to the tune of ~$800k if our hand is forced?
i just want people who are in the team that try. Too many years of watching guys do the bare minimum effort wise
‘That’s Essendon’: Giants footy boss tees off at ‘unreasonable’ Bombers, Crows over trade offers
‘That’s Essendon’: Giants footy boss launches at Bombers, Crows over trade offerswww.foxsports.com.au
This is an interesting topic but I think I'm with McCartney on this.
I know everyone is trying to do best by their club...but at the same time there should be some mutual respect to do a deal both teams can be happy with and is reasonably fair.
Essendon, expectedly, convinced Caldwell but then didn't stump up up and deal went through last minute. We already know their Dunkley offer was very underwhelming, only adding a 2nd rounder to pick 7 late and not taking into account Dogs don't need pick 7...pretty lazy.
And the Crows only offering pick 40 for Hately knowing they could get him in the PSD. I guess you could argue good on them they got him for free and they used their leverage? On the other hand it's quite disrespectful and really abusing the situation since 40 is way under for a pick 14 from only 2 years ago...they could have at least tried to offer a pick in the mid-late 20s.
Curious to know people's thoughts...use your leverage to full advantage to ream the other club or be respectful enough to at least offer something at least a bit more reasonable? This is for normal situations like this, not Collingwood's salary cap issues leading to a fire sale.