Bluemour Melting Pot XXXII - Reaching fever pitch! 🔥 🔥 🔥

[SkyhorseTamer]

They actually have traded a lot of good talent out for unders over the years.

Nankervis, Mumford to name two.

Traded - not let go for free. Generally the ones they've traded out are all about cultural fits. Aliir missed too many trainings and wouldn't adhere to various team standards, mummy was similar before him. Tom Mitchell didn't have a bad work ethic there but he didn't fit in for other reasons.

The point being. If players are being 'ejected' for less than unders even, it's a bit embellished to call them very very good to elite.

 

[Fat Kent]

Jordan Dawson

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Jordan Dawson

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

D

15.7

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

4.9

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.6

3star

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Jordan Dawson

24 y/o who's only played 60 odd games? Yeah.... Right....

 

[Bic]

Extremely flat.

You're flat because you've been sold the Messiah in Clarko and not much really compares to him in the coaching department.

 

[WalshYouLegend]

Excited to finally get a coach. Whether it's Voss, Kingsley, Ross or Clarko in a miracle, I don't care, as I trust the panel's judgement. And if there are no decent assistants left, I guess we'll have to scrape whoever we can on one year contracts and poach some quality next year for the long term.

 

[charred_fate]

Come on lads we gotta get our skates on if Scarlett and potentially Lappin are both out as assistant coaches along with Jaymie Graham today.

Almost more important to start lining these up before the head coach or we'll be left with the dregs.

We already are at dregs level, aren’t we?

Just hope Voss isn’t a saving face appointment bc he has ‘experience’.

Overall, turning to Voss in the hunt for an experienced coach is nothing but underwhelming right now.

 

[Setterfides]

If Voss is coach I wonder if he could entice any Port players to follow him. Willem Drew

28

Willem Drew

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

8.7

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

5.6

5star

CL

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

18.0

5star

K

9.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.8

5star

would be the one I’d want

 

[The Flying Doormat]

If Voss is coach I wonder if he could entice any Port players to follow him. Ollie Wines would be the one I’d want

 

[Jamie007]

You're flat because you've been sold the Messiah in Clarko and not much really compares to him in the coaching department.

No. Would have preferred Lyon actually.

 

[Blue train 28]

Better than any player he could get through draft?

So you're telling me Hewett's better than Weiters, Charlie, and H?

I meant free agency and trade , he only had one good draft . the rest he pretty well failed

 

[Blue train 28]

Hewett is a good footballer and a nice addition, but he's not a better footballer than either Williams or Saad.

Martin is a better footballer as well.

Yep totally agree he isn’t as good as a pickup as Williams or saad but adds depth as for Martin on the other hand
Martin is payed 70-100k per match he gets and he gets about 10 a game!
Needs a big pre season cause he is chewing up valuable coin on the list

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Yep totally agree he isn’t as good as a pickup as Williams or saad but adds depth as for Martin on the other hand
Martin is payed 70-100k per touch he gets and he gets about 10 a game!
Needs a big pre season cause he is chewing up valuable coin on the list

Your maths isn't very good... 70k per touch with 10 touches a game is 700k a game. Multiply that out over a season and... Lol

 

[Blue train 28]

Your maths isn't very good... 70k per touch with 10 touches a game is 700k a game. Multiply that out over a season and... Lol

70k-100k per match for weak efforts

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

70k-100k per match for weak efforts

Want to try again.... 100k per game. Over 20 games per season...

 

[Blue train 28]

Want to try again.... 100k per game. Over 20 games per season...

I wish we could get 20 games out of him, for the amount of money we pay.
Only 11 games this season
So 70k-100k per match is about right for the the total amount he gets paid per year.
So glad the amount he gets paid over the next three years is a lot less then the first two years!.

 

[Magruder]

Want to try again.... 100k per game. Over 20 games per season...

Ok it’s late, and I could be wrong, but that seems to be quite a lot more than you think

 

[Juddernaut08]

Traded - not let go for free. Generally the ones they've traded out are all about cultural fits. Aliir missed too many trainings and wouldn't adhere to various team standards, mummy was similar before him. Tom Mitchell didn't have a bad work ethic there but he didn't fit in for other reasons.

The point being. If players are being 'ejected' for less than unders even, it's a bit embellished to call them very very good to elite.

It's not nothing though is it. It's the compensation pick plus indirect salary cap relief. It's a consequence of buddys contract and the need to frontload others.

I think he's being overrated here by some, but he's an excellent addition at a reasonable salary and no draft assets.

Put it this way: if we had the chance to get rid of mcgoverns contraft and receive a 2nd round pick would we do it?

 

[PoultryinMotion]

Hewett is a good footballer and a nice addition, but he's not a better footballer than either Williams or Saad.

Martin is a better footballer as well.

Not a better but willbe much more valuable to the team than 2 of those mentioned and cost a lot less.How many times have we watched replays of opposition goals where some of our mids don’t want to do the team stuff- Hewitt will fill this void by adding some blue collar mentality to the group I believe.

 

[PoultryinMotion]

Dow got 1 brownlow vote .... deserves extra year.

Tell Luke Dunstan that!

 

[gandaal]

Hewett is a good footballer and a nice addition, but he's not a better footballer than either Williams or Saad.

Martin is a better footballer as well.

No. They're really not.

Well Saad is, but Williams and Martin aren't. They're faster, more agile, better athletes, and just all round more talented than Hewett. But he is a far better AFL footballer.

 

[2blue4u]

If Voss is coach I wonder if he could entice any Port players to follow him. Willem Drew would be the one I’d want

I think it be more likely the Port players are partying that Voss has actually left.

 

[StandByyourMan]

Ian Aitken making one final pitch to clarko today. If Clarko gives the wrong answer, Deisel and Rhys are going to hold him down and tickle him until he agrees.

Still a lot to play out.

 

[Weiterbot23]

To be fair Ross Lyon doesn’t really fit that mould either. Usually sounds a couple deep.

It’s hard to gauge a coaches intellect, as much as we all think we’ve got a pretty good indication where they sit. Someone like Teague strikes me as a pretty bright bloke, but wasn’t necessarily ‘footy smart’ and insightful. Off field, when he was relaxed, he was quick-witted and said some clever things.

Stress also impacts IQ in a big way. We know the pressure Teague was under this year, and why he became increasingly blank in his press conferences. Coaches who can remain calm under pressure retain their instincts and have the ability to make good decisions - I suspect this is a strength of Voss’.

I think it’s likely we overstate the tactical side of things from a head coach POV. A lot comes down to the assistants you have around you and the information being fed down to you. Clarko relied a lot on the kind of analytics Rath was feeding him, and made a lot of minor changes over time. He wasn’t solely responsible for the gameplan.

Coaches tend to develop their tactics and philosophies over time and once they’ve got a rough blueprint they tinker with it until it’s sustainable. Someone like Buckley is just about the best example of that. Could clearly coach, but wasn’t considered a good tactician until much later in his career and his gameplan held up against the best. I don’t see Hardwick as especially good tactically either - was a good motivator who knew how to get the most out of his players. He then had someone like Kingsley working on the technical side of the Tigers play.

Can’t see Fagan being too involved in the Lions game day planning either. He essentially coaches like an EPL manager and allows his line coaches to get to work.

Still not sure how Vossy fits in and whether I want him as head coach, but he has strengths that extend beyond his IQ that might be far more beneficial. If he can get full buy in from the squad that’ll go a lot further than appointing a coach with the best ideas but can’t manufacture wins.

Voss strikes me as a Dunning Kruger type

 

[Weiterbot23]

Hewitt takes Matt Kennedy's spot imo who like Dow and Cripps is a "one way mid". Although I do like what Kennedy beings offensively.

Also Setterfield goes back in the que, career defining year for him.

 

[blue healer]

Agreed it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Cook goes with Kingsley

Do people believe that this decision is going down as predominantly Cook's?

Doesn't seem like a good start to me if he was to override the coaching selection panel, not that i think he will but just that a few here seem to think it's within his mandate.