Bluemour Season Blast Off Edition XXXIII

[Blue and Silver]

Is it the right move for a team that just finished 13th and has a new coach though? I can see what adding an elite midfielder to an already good midfield did for the Bulldogs this year but I’m not sure we can justify paying up for a 29 year old at the moment.

Idk, the historical similarity does appeal

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[zeggie]

Fun fact - Mitchell is only ~20 months older than Cripps.

 

[zeggie]

Only if we can get an F3 back from someone...

Wouldn't be hard. Trade a 2023 F3 for a 2022 3rd in some form.

 

[Sam The Doc]

Fun fact - Mitchell is only ~20 months older than Cripps.

52,600,000 seconds older.

 

[mrkyuss]

Is Wingard really any good or just a show pony that does some things nicely sometimes?

He is 28 I don’t care how good he is

 

[kjr8]

Sam 'The Forgotten Man' Philp is looking in ridiculously good shape on Nic Newman

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Nic Newman

Age

31

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.3

5star

MG

400.8

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

MG

157.0

3star

D

22.4

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.6

5star

MG

387.8

5star

's instagram post #pipes

Can he play on the wing - speed and endurance athlete; know he’s more of an inside mid at TAC level but he seems to have traits for a wingman.


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[swuzzlebubble]

If by better, you mean, has Fisher covered in average disposals, marks, tackles, goals, contested possessions, then yes, he is better.

Other than that pretty similar though?

 

[Sam The Doc]

Other than that pretty similar though?

Wingard is much better than Fisher. (currently)......not similar.

 

[Blue Reaper]

I'd argue its exactly how you should run a football club in Hawthorn's position.

I entirely agree they need a total rebuild, and all players may be expendable. But there's respectful ways of doing it and I just don't like the way this 'family' club is going about it.

 

[Aphrodite]

Is Wingard really any good or just a show pony that does some things nicely sometimes?

Troy Menzel MK11

 

[muzza99]

Fun fact - Mitchell is only ~20 months older than Cripps.

Try hanging from a 100 metre high cliff by your fingernails for 20 months...that's a long time.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

So does F1 for 21 get us a decent player from Hawthorn whilst moving some draft asset into this draft?

 

[Matty411]

On Hawks... Wingard the only one I'd have a nibble at (he seems to like jumping off when things are tough to remain at a club on the up) if the price is right.

If we came to them with Pick 25 and a swap of future picks... I'd pull the trigger. But only if the salary cost is negligible i.e. if he's going to cost us $600K or more... we can't do it. Hawks may be willing to supplement his salary as a dump.

Wingard for a 2nd rounder and $400-500k? For sure. Tell him he plays half/small forward and has the chance to be a real leader of a young, dynamic forward line. Who wouldn't want to work with/mentor our Coleman Medallist and Charlie Curnow

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Charlie Curnow

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

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D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

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[Blue Reaper]

Having said all that, I don't give a fu** about Hawthorn and happy to pick over their carcass if it's in our interest and in our favor.

 

[Faz 2000]

Wingard is a player I irrationally despise. Would take me a lot of time and therapy to warm to him.

He can play, though. Sometimes.

 

[Juddernaut08]

I would 100% hit up Rowell next year if he's not extended by mid-year. Problem is, if he comes out of the blocks flying as I expect - his price will rise astronomically.

2022 and 2023 firsts wouldn't even do it.

Agreed, Rowell would be worth more than our two pick 18s

 

[slashin_velvet]

Wouldn't be hard. Trade a 2023 F3 for a 2022 3rd in some form.

Not possible. We need the F3 in before we can trade out the F1. Cant trade future picks 2 years in advance.

 

[ctwenty1]

Time for Hawthorn to repay our draft/trade help to them of a few years back.

 

[mrkyuss]

Lol Sicily for their second. He is probably their best player

 

[Blue__Balls]

So does F1 for 21 get us a decent player from Hawthorn whilst moving some draft asset into this draft?

As in trading our future first to Hawthorn for 21 and a player?

It might, but it seems to run completely counter to what they're trying to do, which is load up on early picks this year.

They might do it if they couldn't find any other suitors for their players, and felt confident they could then flip out future first for a mid first rounder this year.

 

[BrownDog20]

If they want a first round draft pick they'll have to pay a decent chunk of their salary. No club is trading that and paying their wage.

Other option is to let them go for peanuts (3rd rounder) and clubs pay their wage.

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That's the thing, they are not trying to dump salaries for salary cap purposes so why would they take a 3rd rounder?

They are trying to get early draft picks and seeing what is out there.

Personally, i agree that clubs would only give up a first if Hawks pay a chunk.
That is why no clubs have shown any interest, because the hawks are not willing to pay part of the salary.

 

[Christou2Kouta]

If by better, you mean, has Fisher covered in average disposals, marks, tackles, goals, contested possessions, then yes, he is better.

 

[zeggie]

Wingard is a player I irrationally despise. Would take me a lot of time and therapy to warm to him.

He can play, though. Sometimes.

Did he kick your dog or something?

 

[Wickzki]

The missing link isn't Mitchell, JOM or Ladhams

 

[zeggie]

Not possible. We need the F3 in before we can trade out the F1. Cant trade future picks 2 years in advance.

I'm talking about doing that next year.