Bluemour Season Blast Off Edition XXXIII

[Accidental genius]

Flawed for a reason...

 

[Flawed Genius]

Only if we can throw in McGovern and you throw us at least a third rounder.

Take him. I'll even pay to feed Mitch myself

I'm not sure I'd be interested if we won Jared Polec...

At least you know if you need someone to tag Cripps in intra clubs, you've got your man

Flawed for a reason...

Bröther??

 

[Sickblue]

I think we should take a future 2nd from Roos for Dow and bolt!

We could then use that pick plus our own current 2nd round pick from this year and turn this package into an additional first round pick this year in the 14-17 range and that would give us two first round picks to load up on KPP talent for the future. Or one KPP player and the other on a player who can break the lines with speed.

 

[Aphrodite]

Can I interest you in one (1) Jared Polec

 

[Magical_EddieBetts]

Why does it have to be a future 2nd and not a 2nd for this year for Dow?

 

[F_therest]

I think we should take a future 2nd from Roos for Dow and bolt!

We could then use that pick plus our own current 2nd round pick from this year and turn this package into an additional first round pick this year in the 14-17 range and that would give us two first round picks to load up on KPP talent for the future. Or one KPP player and the other on a player who can break the lines with speed.

Roos second rounder will be around pick 20.

So Dow and our second rounder for pick 14-17, making Dow only worth a 3-6 pick upgrade?

No thanks, i think we can do better than that for Dow.

 

[Stamos]

Why does it have to be a future 2nd and not a 2nd for this year for Dow?

Norf's 2nd pick this year is currently #56

 

[Bletch]

Why does it have to be a future 2nd and not a 2nd for this year for Dow?

Norf doesn't have one. Would require a second deal to be done (or third club involvement). Future 2nd would be both easier to do, and more realistic (though I think Norf would want a little extra).

 

[Sickblue]

Norf doesn't have one. Would require a second deal to be done (or third club involvement). Future 2nd would be both easier to do, and more realistic (though I think Norf would want a little extra).

Correct whilst some on here may rate him highly, on the open market the best we could get for him would be a pick in the range of 18-25. And many would still say that pick range is heavily slanted towards us.

 

[DangerousD]

I like the old saying, distance makes the heart grow fonder and it looks like many here have fallen for, the idea of David Cuningham

28

David Cuningham

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.5

3star

D

12.1

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

5.6

5star

G

0.4

3star

and not the output of David Cuningham

28

David Cuningham

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.5

3star

D

12.1

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

5.6

5star

G

0.4

3star

.

Posters are saying, Cunners is the missing link to our midfield, Cunners can go on to a wing and still hit a lace out pass wrong footed.

David Cuningham

28

David Cuningham

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.5

3star

D

12.1

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

5.6

5star

G

0.4

3star

averages 6 kicks per game and 6 games per season, that’s the reality.

 

[DangerousD]

A contracted borderline required player. A third round pick is unders. The only reason he isn't in the first team now is because we filled it with other elite level players and made a beast mode midfield.

Cripps missed a game, Kennedy has missed a few, Cerra has missed a game, Hewett missed a few, if Voss rated Dow he would have played more than 1 game.

 

[LanceRomance]

Why does it have to be a future 2nd and not a 2nd for this year for Dow?

I am just not sure his output amounts to a 2nd round pick.

 

[thylacine60]

I like the old saying, distance makes the heart grow fonder and it looks like many here have fallen for, the idea of David Cuningham and not the output of David Cuningham.

Posters are saying, Cunners is the missing link to our midfield, Cunners can go on to a wing and still hit a lace out pass wrong footed.

David Cuningham averages 6 kicks per game and 6 games per season, that’s the reality.

absence

 

[Dramoth]

Cripps missed a game, Kennedy has missed a few, Cerra has missed a game, Hewett missed a few, if Voss rated Dow he would have played more than 1 game.

If Dow couple play in the forward line, he would get more call ups I feel. But he's a pure mid and his skill set doesn't translate to other positions. Cripps, Kennedy, and Walsh can all play in other positions. Hewett and Cerra are both midfielders. And it'd be hard to carry 3 pure mids in the side.

 

[branedotorg]

Why does it have to be a future 2nd and not a 2nd for this year for Dow?

If it's north (and he's deemed a 2nd value) they traded their 2nd to Richmond for Coleman-Jones last year

 

[The Bighouse]

Cripps missed a game, Kennedy has missed a few, Cerra has missed a game, Hewett missed a few, if Voss rated Dow he would have played more than 1 game.

Yes, even with the fresh eyes but he did say he’s been doing more than enough to be promoted.

Diesel was quite buoyed by his pre-season too.

Hopefully he gets a run of games to strut his stuff & we can see where he stands at AFL level. Need more than a 1 game sample.

 

[Juice030103]

Yes, even with the fresh eyes but he did say he’s been doing more than enough to be promoted.

Diesel was quite buoyed by his pre-season too.

Hopefully he gets a run of games to strut his stuff & we can see where he stands at AFL level. Need more than a 1 game sample.

Doesn’t chase and I still think he lacks intensity sometimes. Think we have to just move on

 

[Ezayyak]

I like the old saying, distance makes the heart grow fonder and it looks like many here have fallen for, the idea of David Cuningham and not the output of David Cuningham.

Posters are saying, Cunners is the missing link to our midfield, Cunners can go on to a wing and still hit a lace out pass wrong footed.

David Cuningham averages 6 kicks per game and 6 games per season, that’s the reality.

Actually, I've always liked Cuningham. I always like players whose possessions do more damage than the others. Cuningham doesn't get much of the ball but his possessions stand out because he is either in a middle of a pack inside 50, and a quick swivel of the hips and flick out handball ends up being a goal or his ability to kick skilful goals.

We don't need him to be an accumulator and he never will be. He is a burst footballer. And now our midfield has the depth to not need a player like him to get twenty touches.

I see Cuningham as the type of player in a high pressure final that had the ability to cut through congestion and set up a goal, because that it his natural game style or bend through a goal through skill. There are players who can back break the opposition in finals, think Jarman, Rioli and Dew whose pure skill put teams to the sword with minimal touches.

He might flop, who knows, but he has qualities that no one else on our list has and is worth persisting with.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

A second for Dow and we've robbed North....

 

[Sickblue]

A second for Dow and we've robbed North....

Agree, but the fact that he’s contracted helps our cause in addition to his pedigree of being a top 5 pick will mean we won’t let him go for anything less than a second rounder. There will be a club and or clubs out there who think they can get the best out of him and If we get a second round pick for him it’s a decent result all round.

 

[Gointocarlton]

A second for Dow and we've robbed North....

Bite your tongue.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

A second for Dow and we've robbed North....

But a third rounder from a top club robs us.
I've always thought using the term 1st.,2nd. or 3rd round compensation to describe a players value (especially with academy and father-son picks) is just so vague. It's like valuing a house at about $ 700,000- to $1,300,000.
Lets just call it a number, give or take half a dozen? Then you can argue the point whether somebody is shafted or not.

 

[BlueTang]

Dow is most likely the next one in once Ed retires and if one of the current 4/5 kids were out with injury. I really hope he stays for cover, being better defensively is probably one of the easier things to fix. I reckon he is very close to being a very good player for us. I hope they put some work into supporting/improving his game, like they did Kennedy.
We need a 10% better Dow then another 2nd round pick in my opinion

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

But a third rounder from a top club robs us.
I've always thought using the term 1st.,2nd. or 3rd round compensation to describe a players value (especially with academy and father-son picks) is just so vague. It's like valuing a house at about $ 700,000- to $1,300,000.
Lets just call it a number, give or take half a dozen? Then you can argue the point whether somebody is shafted or not.

No it doesn't. The only thing putting dows value above someone like Lipinski is that he's contracted. Clubs don't tend to play hard ball over players like Dow etc...

 

[Blue__Balls]

Dow is most likely the next one in once Ed retires and if one of the current 4/5 kids were out with injury. I really hope he stays for cover, being better defensively is probably one of the easier things to fix. I reckon he is very close to being a very good player for us. I hope they put some work into supporting/improving his game, like they did Kennedy.
We need a 10% better Dow then another 2nd round pick in my opinion

If being better defensively was one of the easier things to fix, it would have happened some time in the last 5 years.

Dow either needs a monumental epiphany on his shortcomings, a spell in a new tagging role where he does nothing but play defensively, or a new environment where he's not expected to work defensively.