Bluemour Season Blast Off Edition XXXIII

[Donnini]

Great replacement for Levi.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Okay I don't generally have issue with people posting plausible rumours and others can make their own minds up re credibility.

I get that this is a rumours thread but surely there is something to be said for posting outright fabrications?

This is this poster's 'rumours' all on the very first page:

1) Dow has asked to be traded
2) SPS has asked to be traded
3) SPS does not want to be traded but the club wants to trade him
4) SPS has been offered a one year deal
5) Pyke is in talks with us (4 times)
6) We are in talks with Pendlebury
7) We are in talks with Hodge
8) We are in talks with other clubs about Setterfield
9) We are in talks with Stengle
10) Fisher is on the trade table
11) Fisher is on the trade table but we might offer him a 1 year deal (note: he is contracted for next year)
12) Interested in Lewis Young - got one!!!....actually was posted 3 or 4 hours after it broke on afl.com.au

Come on dude, get your kicks another way and let people have other good discussions instead of derailing the thread for some cheap likes.

Always thought that faucon bleu was an alternative account for another obnoxious poster on here.

Could be wrong though.

 

[NavySteel]

Okay I don't generally have issue with people posting plausible rumours and others can make their own minds up re credibility.

I get that this is a rumours thread but surely there is something to be said for posting outright fabrications?

This is this poster's 'rumours' all on the very first page:

1) Dow has asked to be traded
2) SPS has asked to be traded
3) SPS does not want to be traded but the club wants to trade him
4) SPS has been offered a one year deal
5) Pyke is in talks with us (4 times)
6) We are in talks with Pendlebury
7) We are in talks with Hodge
8) We are in talks with other clubs about Setterfield
9) We are in talks with Stengle
10) Fisher is on the trade table
11) Fisher is on the trade table but we might offer him a 1 year deal (note: he is contracted for next year)
12) Interested in Lewis Young - got one!!!....actually was posted 3 or 4 hours after it broke on afl.com.au

Come on dude, get your kicks another way and let people have other good discussions instead of derailing the thread for some cheap likes.

Talk is talk though. It doesn't mean it has to eventuate by any means.

I talk to a lot of people in my job too, but it doesn't mean anything is guaranteed.

What is talked about and what comes out in the media are different things.

 

[RPCB]

Dogs eye free agent Hawk, versatile tall requests trade to Carlton

The Western Bulldogs is considering a move for a Hawk as a potential replacement if Lewis Young departs

www.afl.com.au

In a 3 year period, we’ve had nominations from (maybe Wines), Papley (one that got away), Martin, Saad, Williams, Hewett, Cerra and now Lewis.

#destinationclub

 

[PumpyChowdown]

Wow! Surprised Young has nominated us so early. We are VERY much in need of young KPP depth too. And he's come from the Dogs system with valuable IP and habits. This looks like it could be a very astute pick up.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Talk is talk though. It doesn't mean it has to eventuate by any means.

I talk to a lot of people in my job too, but it doesn't mean anything is guaranteed.

What is talked about and what comes out in the media are different things.

Talk isn't just talk. There's genuine talk and then there's I need attention talk or just plain I want to stir shit talk. Pretty obvious which FB is doing

 

[TBellicious]

If he is being recruited for any position other than third tall defender that develops into a CHB then we are doing it wrong.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Versatile player that can play forward or back, and pinch hit in the ruck. Not sure where we would play him though

I'm thinking forward or back and pinch hit in the ruck, as needed.

 

[El Topo]

good timing for a guy like Young to be hitting his peak as Liam Jones

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Liam Jones

Age

33

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

retires

 

[BigFrizz36]

Is Young any good? Not sure we need another backup ruck... we need a starting ruck, 26 years and older.

Would be more a back up kpd though. Improvement needed but a definite need.

Think Jordan Roughead maybe?

 

[HaydossJ]

Doggies board describe Young as a mobile interceptor with poor kicking and limited physicality. Some obvious strengths and deficiencies. If he does come, I'm hoping the club sees him as a defender with the possibility of taking over from Jones.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

If he is being recruited for any position other than third tall defender that develops into a CHB then we are doing it wrong.

Definitely see this as his best role. Intercept defender graduating to KPD.

 

[rampar]

Doggies board describe Young as a mobile interceptor with poor kicking and limited physicality. Some obvious strengths and deficiencies. If he does come, I'm hoping the club sees him as a defender with the possibility of taking over from Jones.

"poor kicking and limited physicality" does not compute with the dogs DNA, surprised they have tabled a 2 year contract.

 

[Banga19]

Yep, astute pick up. Did Austin draft him?

Use him as a third tall defender. Sounds best when used in a more unaccountable role. But if we can get him competing well as a 2nd kept position defender (like Petty for the the dees who is solid but no world beater) it can free up Jones and Weiters to be more aggressive options and share interceptor duties.

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[slashin_velvet]

L.Young was Pick 49
L.Jones was traded to Carlton for Pick 46
West Coast have 52 after FA comp has pushed them back.

SPS for pick 52
52 to Dogs for L.Young

Effectively is SPS for L.Young and Frees up our pick 25 to go after a slider instead of a KPD which I think gives us a bigger potential for success.

 

[PattyCr1pps]

Young surely is coming as a backup key defender behind weits and jones. But with the ability to play as a ruckman and a forward if needed. Really like this from our club think he will fit perfectly. Now just to work out what we give up for him will have to be future picks you'd assume

 

[Mr_Plow]

Austin is targeting all the right types, it would appear, for very reasonable prices.
Hewett as RFA and Cerra as trade, massive ticks, immediately make our midfield magnitudes better.
Young as trade, immediately secures our KPD depth somewhat, can play the role Marchbank was supposed to play immediately, or be groomed to take over from Jones.

I'm not in the camp that we need an experienced ruckman. TDK is tracking along fine with another pre-season, Pittonet is very handy depth, Mirkov is developing. Waste of a list spot, IMO.

 

[BigFrizz36]

L.Young was Pick 49
L.Jones was traded to Carlton for Pick 46
West Coast have 52 after FA comp has pushed them back.

SPS for pick 52
52 to Dogs for L.Young

Effectively is SPS for L.Young and Frees up our pick 25 to go after a slider instead of a KPD which I think gives us a bigger potential for success.

You'd be selling sps trade value way too short their. I'd be asking for their pick 29 and accepting their pick 36 at a pinch. Could actually make a case that he is worth more than that.

 

[Benaly28]

L.Young was Pick 49
L.Jones was traded to Carlton for Pick 46
West Coast have 52 after FA comp has pushed them back.

SPS for pick 52
52 to Dogs for L.Young

Effectively is SPS for L.Young and Frees up our pick 25 to go after a slider instead of a KPD which I think gives us a bigger potential for success.

Sps aint getting traded for pick 52.


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[DEliades]

No need for ruck back up. Need to get games into TDK and Pitto is good back up. We also have Mirkov as depth

 

[Feva]

L.Young was Pick 49
L.Jones was traded to Carlton for Pick 46
West Coast have 52 after FA comp has pushed them back.

SPS for pick 52
52 to Dogs for L.Young

Effectively is SPS for L.Young and Frees up our pick 25 to go after a slider instead of a KPD which I think gives us a bigger potential for success.

Pick 52 for SPS? No chance

Maybe pick 35 and 65 (will end up being 40ish and 70ish) and we send 65 to the Dogs for Young which helps their points for Darcy

 

[james95]

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This may be proven correct but surely that is a very navy and white way to look at it?

Why aren't all the top 10 draft picks given to the top 4 sides then? The whole point of the system is the lower clubs get the best players and they lead the charge up the ladder i.e. Hodge, Lewis, Franklin, Roughead.

Taking Carlton out of it - are the Gold Coast relying on Rowell, Anderson, Rankine, King, Luko, Bowes, Ainsworth (Miller, Flanders, Weller all picks 11-13) to take them up the ladder? Or is it supposed to be the likes of Burgess, Holman, Collins and Ellis that take them to the top 4, and then the top picks add cream when they start winning?

A rebuild will stagnate based on top 10 picks like Dow, SPS, Setterfield (pick 6 originally and we bid 5) and O'Brien not delivering to expectations. I'm not picking on individuals, but collectively the failure of this group (or at least some) to "come on", is a big part of why we finished 13th in year 6 of the rebuild.

It's great that we are getting Hewett and Cerra, but as others have said, these are not the type of players we should need to be adding at this stage.

Being a smart arse here, but we bid 5 on Setterfield, that means he went at 5 not 6

 

[slashin_velvet]

You'd be selling sps trade value way too short their. I'd be asking for their pick 29 and accepting their pick 36 at a pinch. Could actually make a case that he is worth more than that.

Sps aint getting traded for pick 52.

Pick 52 for SPS? No chance

Maybe pick 35 and 65 (will end up being 40ish and 70ish) and we send 65 to the Dogs for Young which helps their points for Darcy

Sorry guys, I think we're going to have to come to the realization that he's just not that valuable in a trade. Forget what we paid to get him and consider what you would be happy with us giving up to get a player like that.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

D E S T I N A T I O N C L U B

 

[slowhand clape]

I like the Young move. Replacement for Jones in a couple of years. We would then have replacements for both our 30+ players on our list with Hewett for Ed C.

Maybe a future second/third.

I also think 29 is about right for SPS. Then 25 + 29 for Bulldogs 17. They need the points for Darcy