Bluemour Season Blast Off Edition XXXIII

[teagueyubeauty]

Yeah na, Mark Athorn and Tim Powell can gag *ed - useless as **** on a bull, scary to think they were in the '93 grand final side, no wonder we got flogged

What? Who should have played in their place?

They were the best we had at the time, zero depth is the list managers fault.

Stop being a flog


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[ESKIE]

Embrace the journey

 

[F_therest]

At this stage it's looking like the AFL is prepared to give us a 3rd rounder as compensation if Jones was to move clubs. Our list management team is confident we can get Sholl for that.

So essentially if it all goes down like planned we'd be trading in a contracted player, for no draft pics, no extra list spot and we'd be saving on cap space too.

SPS for Young and Jones (31 yrs old) for Sholl would be pretty amazing.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

At this stage it's looking like the AFL is prepared to give us a 3rd rounder as compensation if Jones was to move clubs. Our list management team is confident we can get Sholl for that.

So essentially if it all goes down like planned we'd be trading in a contracted player, for no draft pics, no extra list spot and we'd be saving on cap space too.

Would we still be eligible for compensation for Jones if he requested a return to Carlton, but we refused to cooperate?
Can he just walk into any club that's shown interest that he desires?

 

[Accidental genius]

Would we still be eligible for compensation for Jones if he requested a return to Carlton, but we refused to cooperate?
Can he just walk into any club that's shown interest that he desires?

I see your point. But I hope that’s not the case.

 

[onesilop]

Would we still be eligible for compensation for Jones if he requested a return to Carlton, but we refused to cooperate?
Can he just walk into any club that's shown interest that he desires?

He’d have to wait until mid season draft, to see out the 18 month layoff.

 

[Hands On]

Why are they reportedly offering him only a 1 year deal though (although I guess LukeJackson to Freo is a done deal, so they may have a SC squeeze)

From the sounds of it , we are very unlikely to trade in this year and just hit the draft (Dow will be traded, unfortunately probably only for a 3rd round pick or so I suspect)

Not if he wins the Liston trophy.

 

[katmanblue]

A late second is the right number for mine.

A third in hand is worth a second in the bush.

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[katmanblue]

Embrace Journey

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[The Blue Weirdo]

He’d have to wait until mid season draft, to see out the 18 month layoff.

I thought he was given more freedom than this due to the unusual circumstances, like several AFLW players that refused to vaccinate.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Would we still be eligible for compensation for Jones if he requested a return to Carlton, but we refused to cooperate?
Can he just walk into any club that's shown interest that he desires?

Simply put - he wouldn't. No player is going to publicly announce that they want to go to <insert club here> if that club has told them there is no place for them.

Jones will have suitors elsewhere, and he'll announce his intentions only when his management have effectively locked in a contract.

 

[Forty3]

I thought he was given more freedom than this due to the unusual circumstances, like several AFLW players that refused to vaccinate.

Liam retired whilst under contract.
His contract wasn’t terminated, he wasn’t delisted.

 

[ShanDog]

Liam retired whilst under contract.
His contract wasn’t terminated, he wasn’t delisted.

That's the big unknown for most people in this situation since the AFL is so closed-loop regarding contracts (unlike many other large sports).

If a player retires, what happens? Do they no longer receive their pay from the club and the contract is terminated? If not, are they technically still and employee, drawing a wage and just not playing? It's all very muddy and reeks of things being made up as we go by the stakeholders involved.

 

[The Bighouse]

Liam retired whilst under contract.
His contract wasn’t terminated, he wasn’t delisted.

Due to circumstances that his contract did not include, and never should have been mandated to take against his will to remain employed and fulfil his contract.

Hopefully he returns to WBD, GCFC, BL vs any ESS interest.

 

[gadj1976]

In relation to Brett Sholl's Blueseum piece mentioned at the top of this page I wonder if this was done on purpose?

Brett's son Lachlan was drafted by the Adelaide Cows at pick 64 in the 2018 National Draft.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

I wonder if this was done on purpose?

Cows

Obvs meant Crom

 

[swuzzlebubble]

SPS for Young and Jones (31 yrs old) for Sholl would be pretty amazing.

Does it make the Cerra deal better if we get our F3 back?

 

[Kaladin Stormblessed]

I'd be pretty happy with a 3rd. Better then nothing and if we can flick it on for a player like Scholl even better.

Depends when the third round pick is. If its the end of the round its pretty poor. If its tied to our ladder position then marginally better but still.

Mid round or better you'd probably take it.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Liam retired whilst under contract.
His contract wasn’t terminated, he wasn’t delisted.

That's the form, not the susbstance.... everyone knows he only 'retired' because of the mandate.

 

[agro]

What? Who should have played in their place?

They were the best we had at the time, zero depth is the list managers fault.

Stop being a flog


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[Bamboo Harvester]

Depends when the third round pick is. If its the end of the round its pretty poor. If its tied to our ladder position then marginally better but still.

Mid round or better you'd probably take it.

Doesn't really matter much if we're planning on flicking it anyway to trade in Sholl as suggested.

All it means is the Cows would get a later pick in the draft.

Sholl would be a handy pick up though, good kick on either foot, and can handball with both hands at the same time. Very unique quality.

 

[Burgers45]

Don't know whether it's been already mentioned, but HS reporting Jones seen meeting Bulldogs today.

 

[ferrisb]

Don't know whether it's been already mentioned, but HS reporting Jones seen meeting Bulldogs today.

We get a Young FB from the doggies
They get an old FB from us

Seems fair...

 

[ferrisb]

Don't know whether it's been already mentioned, but HS reporting Jones seen meeting Bulldogs today.

Jones is tall and not named Naughton, English or Keath.

Bevo won't know WTF to do with him...

 

[Wickzki]

If we can turn Jones into Sholl - forget the pick - that's as big of a win as we could possibly hope for regardless of your feelings on Sholl. It's effectively a free hit.

We either get an upgrade at wing/outside mid for the cost of the list spot or we don't lose anything we haven't already given up and we can move on in 12-24 months.