Brad Ebert asks to be traded to Port

[_Christoh_]

Port won't get him in the PSD. Sorry to dash your hopes, but look at it realistically - young bloke, 70 odd games of experience, ready made body size - can you see GC and GWS passing that up? A promise, unless formalised in way of a contract, is worth the paper it's written on.

Port know they have to trade, and WCE want to assist Brad get to Port. All part of trade week shinanigans my teal friend.

Absolute CRAP!! Why would GWS or GC pick a player that they know full well wants to play at the club his father, uncles, grandfather, great grandfather and cousins played at. What part of this dont you flogs understand??

You WCE eagles supporters just dont get that this guy has a desire to play for Port. Even if GWS or GS take him they are wasting a pick just like WCE did by knowing that there would be a very good chance he will still want to play for Port.

WCE supporters on the trade thread are soooooo stupid, they just cant see the link between Ebert and Port.

Get this in your thick skulls BRAD EBERT WILL PLAY FOR PORT ADELAIDE and if they dont take pick 33 then they are stupid. We will get our man either through pick 33 or PSD. I am annoyed that we even offered pick 28 TBH.

I am hoping like hell he goes to the PSD now just to shove it up these idiot WCE supporters.

They look down on us not having a clue we have them over the barrel on this deal like no other deal in the history of deals because there is no other player in the hisory of players with a link so strong to one club.

fools the lot of them.

 

[Amstaff_]

Absolute CRAP!! Why would GWS or GC pick a player that they know full well wants to play at the club his father, uncles, grandfather, great grandfather and cousins played at. What part of this dont you flogs understand??

You WCE eagles supporters just dont get that this guy has a desire to play for Port. Even if GWS or GS take him they are wasting a pick just like WCE did by knowing that there would be a very good chance he will still want to play for Port.

WCE supporters on the trade thread are soooooo stupid, they just cant see the link between Ebert and Port.

Get this in your thick skulls BRAD EBERT WILL PLAY FOR PORT ADELAIDE and if they dont take pick 33 then they are stupid. We will get our man either through pick 33 or PSD. I am annoyed that we even offered pick 28 TBH.

I am hoping like hell he goes to the PSD now just to shove it up these idiot WCE supporters.

They look down on us not having a clue we have them over the barrel on this deal like no other deal in the history of deals because there is no other player in the hisory of players with a link so strong to one club.

fools the lot of them.

HEAR HEAR!!!

 

[simba_]

hopefully they take pick 33, Ebert is an extremely good get, already makes our midfield look better with a bit of optimism.

 

[Portia]

You're kidding, right? Brad is the new Matt Connell unless he has an off-season miracle.

 

[THE_GUN]

Pick 28 seems a good deal for port, anything under would be a steal.

 

[Adz2332]

Still looking with ALOT of optimism, wont be to bad with his bigger body in there. Hopefully playing as more of an inside under the pack mid. Shoveling the ball out side to Gray, Hartlett, Pearce etc... Then his kicking isnt such a huge worry...

Just get him to get it into the real ball use's hands...

 

[Hong-Kong Phooey]

We should be offering 28 to get it done. He is worth it.

 

[Waspy79]

You're kidding, right? Brad is the new Matt Connell unless he has an off-season miracle.

Surely Ebert is harder than that softy? Comparable disposal by foot though I guess.

 

[TheSuper6of06]

1) the funny thing is that if the M. Clark deal falls over

considering how surprisingly little both Fremantle and West Coast are offering ....

M. Clark could find himself in the PSD too

but i get the feeling we'll leave him alone as we acknowledge he just wants to go home ....

 

[Schulzenfest]

If a few more players like M. Clark and Toovey fall through to the PSD, then we're just about guaranteed to be able to take Ebert in the PSD. So let's hope that they do.

On Ebert though, I hear people say he'd be a walk-up to our best 22. But would he?

B: J. Surjan, A. Carlile, T. Logan
HB: T. Chaplin, J. Trengove, D. Motlop (or Pittard if we lose Motlop)
C: D. Pearce, D. Cassisi, H. Hartlett
HF: Brett Ebert, J. Westhoff, R. Gray
F: M. Banner, J. Butcher, J. Schulz
R: M. Lobbe, T. Boak, D. Rodan
Int: S. Salopek, P. Stewart, M. Thomas
Sub: J. Pittard (Or O'Shea if we lose Motlop)

The non-italicized players are all clearly ahead of Ebert, and the italicized players are arguably ahead of Ebert.

 

[SloppyJoe]

Pick 33 is a good deal considering his PA history and his desire to leave. His disposal may improve slightly but his decision making will always be poor. We have half forwards ready to step in and fill the breach.

 

[S.Patrol.G]

If a few more players like M. Clark and Toovey fall through to the PSD, then we're just about guaranteed to be able to take Ebert in the PSD. So let's hope that they do.

On Ebert though, I hear people say he'd be a walk-up to our best 22. But would he?

B: J. Surjan, A. Carlile, T. Logan
HB: T. Chaplin, J. Trengove, D. Motlop (or Pittard if we lose Motlop)
C: D. Pearce, D. Cassisi, H. Hartlett
HF: Brett Ebert, J. Westhoff, R. Gray
F: M. Banner, J. Butcher, J. Schulz
R: M. Lobbe, T. Boak, D. Rodan
Int: S. Salopek, P. Stewart, M. Thomas
Sub: J. Pittard (Or O'Shea if we lose Motlop)

The non-italicized players are all clearly ahead of Ebert, and the italicized players are arguably ahead of Ebert.

I agree that he probably isn't. You also need to consider Moore, Jacobs, Newton and Young who we'd expect to be regularly pushing for selection in 2012.

He's in the mix.

 

[QS]

but i get the feeling we'll leave him alone as we acknowledge he just wants to go home ....

Aren't you blokes looking for a big fella though? Do you think Port would actually not consider it based on "moral"?

 

[Portia]

I think it was sarcasm.

 

[Powerstufff]

We only need to front-end Brad's contract to keep GC and GWS away at the PSD.

GC and GWS are not going to pick a player who will not go to them. Players are not slaves, unless those clubs know he will accept they won't waste their time. Yes, if push comes to shove and a player goes to the PSD there are consequences for them refusing to go to a club that picks them (out of the AFL for 2 years from memory). But there are consequences for the clubs too, by they time they get a compensatory pick it is too late to be of any use.

Port won't get him in the PSD. Sorry to dash your hopes.....

see above.

Pick 33 is a good deal considering his PA history and his desire to leave.....

It probably is a good deal in that it is achievable. People have to remember we are trying to work other deals too, it may be as straight up as Rohde says i.e. we may not have #28 to offer.

 

[Powerstufff]

....Do you think Port would actually not consider it based on "moral"?

I genuinely don't understand this. Do you mean 'morale'?

 

[Amstaff_]

If a few more players like M. Clark and Toovey fall through to the PSD, then we're just about guaranteed to be able to take Ebert in the PSD. So let's hope that they do.

On Ebert though, I hear people say he'd be a walk-up to our best 22. But would he?

B: J. Surjan, A. Carlile, T. Logan
HB: T. Chaplin, J. Trengove, D. Motlop (or Pittard if we lose Motlop)
C: D. Pearce, D. Cassisi, H. Hartlett
HF: Brett Ebert, J. Westhoff, R. Gray
F: M. Banner, J. Butcher, J. Schulz
R: M. Lobbe, T. Boak, D. Rodan
Int: S. Salopek, P. Stewart, M. Thomas
Sub: J. Pittard (Or O'Shea if we lose Motlop)

The non-italicized players are all clearly ahead of Ebert, and the italicized players are arguably ahead of Ebert.

lose motlop?? dont you mean if we cant off load him? He wont be at the club next year so theres a spot for him right there. Going on last years form I'd play him ahead of Sal and Surj also. Dont forget players get injuries and how often do you have a full list to choose from?? At the very least Ebert will give us more depth.

 

[QS]

I genuinely don't understand this. Do you mean 'morale'?

to be used in its adjective form; so no, I meant moral. Subsitute it for "goodwill", in which I mean that why would a club actively _not_ draft a player that may benefit them based on a "goodwill" gesture to another, effectively giving them a leg-up.

Ebert's wishes aside, if it comes to PSD (which I hope it doesn't, WCE should have taken the 28 on offer yesterday), he has to then risk it not certain if someone else won't pick him before Port, therefore he won't be playing if he refuses to go or lose a couple of months worth of pay waiting to know _where_ he will be going if GWS or GCS aren't interested.

Personally I think 28 is fair, I think the eagles staff are overselling him here..

 

[no_remorse28]

If a few more players like M. Clark and Toovey fall through to the PSD, then we're just about guaranteed to be able to take Ebert in the PSD. So let's hope that they do.

On Ebert though, I hear people say he'd be a walk-up to our best 22. But would he?

B: J. Surjan, A. Carlile, T. Chaplin
HB. Stewart , J. Trengove, J. Pittard
C: D. Pearce, D. Cassisi, H. Hartlett
HF: Brett Ebert, J. Westhoff, R. Gray
F: M. Banner, J. Butcher, J. Schulz
R: M. Lobbe, T. Boak, Brad Ebert
Int: S. Salopek, , M. Thomas, A. Moore
Sub: D. Rodan

Jacobs, Newton and Young O'Shea all causing pressure for spots, Im sure some could be in for some of the others. In bold is how I see Brad fitting in. And D-Rod is the most amazing sub on the planet

 

[philthy05]

B: J. Surjan, A. Carlile, T. Logan
HB: T. Chaplin, J. Trengove, oshea
C: D. Pearce, D. Cassisi, pittard
HF: moore , J. Westhoff, R. Gray
F: J. Schulz, J. Butcher, hitchcock
R: M. Lobbe, T. Boak, hartlett
Int: P. Stewart, ben jacobs, brad ebert, backup ruck.

broadbent,salopek,s.phillips, rodan,brett ebert, thomas,m.banner, ben newton,t.jonas, young, d.stewert, salter, redden, pick 6.

there it is. 21st man selected for mine. depending on form of others could go anywhere from the back end of that 18 if he is ahead of players like moore, logan, stewert and jacobs. ( we need a crumber small in that forward line so a hitch or phillips etc are needed) to all the way behind players like salopek, brett, rodan, broadbent or banner who mostly offer something similar.

 

[Shaxx Attaxx]

nr28. Swap Thomas for D-Rod and you have yourself a team.

 

[Powerstufff]

... no, I meant moral. Subsitute it for "goodwill", in which I mean that why would a club actively _not_ draft a player that may benefit them based on a "goodwill" gesture to another ......

Gotcha, thanks. I agree with the goodwill side of things, trouble is it can be years before the chance to reciprocate comes and there can be completely different officials at one or both clubs who don't see it as a chance/obligation (respectively) to even things up.

 

[Hong-Kong Phooey]

B: Surjan, A. Carlile, T. Chaplin
HB. Stewart , J. Trengove, J. Pittard
C: D. Pearce, D. Cassisi, H. Hartlett
HF: Brett Ebert, J. Westhoff, Moore
F: J. Butcher, J. Schulz, gray
R: M. Lobbe, T. Boak, Brad Ebert
Int: Jacobs, rodan, oshea
Sub: banner

Newton, Young and our pick 6 player pressing

Trade Salopek and d.Stewart

Logan and Thomas are depth players in a premiership team. Dav, salter and grew aren't even that.

Needs to have a great year hitch, broady, Phillips

That's where I think ebert will fit into the team

 

[240volt]

Pick 33 is a good deal considering his PA history and his desire to leave. His disposal may improve slightly but his decision making will always be poor. We have half forwards ready to step in and fill the breach.

Its nice to know you have forwards ready to step in and play in Brad's place, just one question for you...how come Brad played 22 games last year? these other players you have go on a overseas holiday or what?

 

[QS]

Its nice to know you have forwards ready to step in and play in Brad's place, just one question for you...how come Brad played 22 games last year? these other players you have go on a overseas holiday or what?

We WC supporters have differing opinions on Ebo and his place in our best 22.. so I'll just leave your board and hope for a mutually beneficial outcome. All the best.