Had to happen sooner or later a self entitled Hawk supporter bringing up the 3 peat lol.
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Traded Brad Hill [traded with future 3rd to St Kilda for Acres, #10, #58, future 2nd and 4th]
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You're missing a third scenario
That's generally how buying and selling works. Sellers dream of getting offered way overs. Buyers dream about getting a steal. In most cases it ends up somewhere in the middle satisfying neither parties' dreams but in the ballpark of what both expected. I can't see any reason why Freo would be desperate to sell - I can't see why they'd suddenly accept less than was offered previously but I also don't think StKilda were way outside what Freo would be willing to accept.
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If Bing is in play next year they’ll find a way of getting another first in if they trade it for Hill.
Theres heaps of scenarios
He gets injured ? or changes his mind ? or plays crap like Croad for another year and comes back for less
I’m resigned to him leaving. Most deals get done and the fact neither Freo or St KFC have spat the chewie gives me comfort that both sides are working to get it done. I’m sure Bell isn’t screwing with Brad’s family life just because he can, footy clubs do genuinely care for the welfare of their (and other teams’) players.
I’m equally sure that once the deal is done there will be Freo posters saying “we got what we wanted” and St KFC posters saying “hahaha, we bent you over and you took less than the original offer”. That’s BigFooty.
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I’m equally sure that once the deal is done there will be Freo posters saying “we got what we wanted” and St KFC posters saying “hahaha, we bent you over and you took less than the original offer”. That’s BigFooty.
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So you just choose to mention the 2 scenarios that suit your point of view?
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Max King done another knee, mccartin another concussion, Zac Jones and hanna fail to shine. B. HILL decide to nominate another club. Howard play like JOR, Ben King extend another two years with GC. RATTEN get the sack the second time. St Kilda become VIC version of Adelaide.
The Saints offer more and we accept it.
They dont have 6
But they might get #13 as part of the Bruce trade (upgrading the #18). #12 and #13 is more than #6 and future 3rd.
Forgetting about he get's injured, he changes his mind, he plays like Trent Croad, he gets hit by a car etc etc
1. he stays at Freo
2. Freo takes less than original offer
3. Freo gets more than original offer
It's the last option that many Saints fans (and others) seem to have a convenient blind spot to.
I'm very happy to go on record saying it will be 1 or 3 - if I'm wrong I will be happy to admit that
So you are saying you think we'll accept less than #6 and future 3rd?
2. Freo takes less than original offer
Mate if you're correct I will dip my lid to your judgement - it just makes me laugh how so many people will not even consider the chance that Bell squeezes more out of the Saints than what they originally offered. Old Dinga may be a lot of things but a soft touch or idiot he is not.
What do you think the original offer was?
Haha, "facts"? Both the AFL's own website and by far the biggest footy paper in the country have been saying it was a future 2nd rounder that we offered with pick 6, not a third, but no, according to you it's just some guy on here "making things up"!
I agree this is what might get the deal done.
Otherwise 12, future second and Acres.
I’d prefer 12 & 13.
If a bid for Henry comes before 12 it should only take up 12, but if it doesn’t come. We get 7, 12, 13 and Henry.
I think a bid will come for Butters late.
We will be able to take the other two NGA’s as Cat b.
Brad Hill = Tim Kelly?
Did you seriously just say that!?
Bwahahahahaha!!!!
Last year it was widely reported that we offered the inferior Dylan Shiel $1.4mil PA over multiple years.
If that's correct you can imagine how much we would have been offering Kelly, had he for instance been wanting to return to Vic, instead of to WA.
If we were willing to pay Shiel $1.4mil PA, it's hard to imagine we wouldn't have been willing to pay Kelly at least that much (given the fact he's clearly better than Shiel), which is at least 50% more than we've reportedly offered Hill.
Kelly- as someone who can play both inside, outside and kicks goals - is much better and more valuable than Hill. Much.
As in much.
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The easy out for you is that no-one other than the negotiating parties are aware of what the original offer was.
Until I hear it from Bell and confirmed by Lethlean, or vice versa, then the original offer is just conjecture.
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Brad Hill = Tim Kelly?
Did you seriously just say that!?
Bwahahahahaha!!!!
Last year it was widely reported that we've offered the inferior Dylan Shiel $1.4mil PA over multiple years.
If that's correct you can imagine how much we would have been offering Kelly, had he for instance been wanting to return to Vic, instead of to WA.
If we were willing to pay Shiel $1.4mil PA it's hard to imagine we wouldn't have been willing to pay Kelly at least that much (given the fact he's clearly better than Shiel), which is at least 50% more than we've reportedly offered Hill.
Kelly is much more valuable than Hill.
Kelly is a better player. But the dockers are thin in the midfield and have brad hill contracted for two more years. He’s VERY valuable to them.
Value is subjective. St kilda are trying to get the only freo player who plays good reliable midfield minutes not names Nat Fyfe in contract, and then look staggered when they ask the world.
St kilda should come back next year when the threat of him leaving for nothing is more real.
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There's also a decent amount of selective posting going on. My question was directly relating to the poster I was replying to using an employment analogy that itself was ridiculous and pretty unrelated to anything.
To answer your question Hill wanted to go to the Hawks last year reportedly so I'm guessing you guys put together your offer once you heard he was looking to come back to Melbourne.
