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Traded Brad Hill [traded with future 3rd to St Kilda for Acres, #10, #58, future 2nd and 4th]
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Do you know what literally means?
So the crows matched the offer to force a trade and could have kept him if they didn’t like the offer?
CakeEater
Brownlow Medallist
1.He has 2 years to go on his contract.
2.He’s one of our top 2 players
Letting him go cheap is negligent list management
What would the saints do if the shoe was on The other foot?
Jake_Pizzuto
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Yeah same, I hope it falls over and we are left with the second best winger in the comp...
You do realise we don't want to trade Brad Hill right?
That'd be out-of-contract Free Agent Dangerfield who Geelong low-balled an offer to the Crows for because they had zero negotiation power to effect in a trade.
Also amusing calling Dangerfield the best player in the comp when he clearly wasn't in 2019, and also wasn't in the year he was traded.
I am thinking you may actually be the brains behind Saints trading team; am I right?
Crows didn't match the offer, i think it was in " good faith " or some other BS... but yes, they could of made life harder for geelong if they did
Before Everyone gets on their high horse, I know saints don’t want to give up a future 1st but I think they are going to have too if they want to get this deals done
Freo
In
10 & 12
Out hill & Melbourne 2nd round pick
Saints
In
Hill, Howard, Ryder 29
Out
12 & 18, future 1st
Port
In 18 & future 1st & 2nd rounder (Melbourne)
Out 10 Howard, Ryder & 29
Then saints could go 29 for Jones & 44
Freo
In
10 & 12
Out hill & Melbourne 2nd round pick
Saints
In
Hill, Howard, Ryder 29
Out
12 & 18, future 1st
Port
In 18 & future 1st & 2nd rounder (Melbourne)
Out 10 Howard, Ryder & 29
Then saints could go 29 for Jones & 44
When a player publicly nominates a club as their preferred club for a trade, you can be sure that the club has promised him that the trade will happen.
When the CEO publicly confirms the length of contract and quibbles about the salary that has been discussed, you can be sure that the club has promised him that the trade will happen.
It has always been so.
I do agree that Hill knows that the trade might not be able to be completed. I am certain that he didn’t expect St. Kilda to be trading with 4 other players, and that he wouldn’t be the priority signing.
It will be difficult for the Saints to satisfy all of the players who have nominated them. Especially if they keep their future first pick for getting Max’s twin. They will only be able to do it by winning all their trades.
I will be very happy to keep Brad Hill. Hope it happens that way.
Nah. Just another year of Saints putting big dollar offers out there to see if they can get a player to say "yes". After that, they have no plan, and they certainly don't get deals done.
Without going into the other deals what you've suggested values hill at around 5 to 6. If we go on point value surely 12 and a future second gets it done? It's similar point value were happy to give it up and you still get a top 12 pick.
I'd be happy to give a later pick or acres so you can call it a win but I think 12 and a future second is fair.
23, 22, 21, 22,
Those are the 4 years of Brownlow votes that danger had before leaving the crows... coincidently each year more than brad has managed in 8 years combined.
The two are so far apart in terms of ability and stature it’s not really worth discussing further... the point being that freo could have got a better deal than Adelaide did, who were smart enough not to try and hold onto a player who didn’t want to be at their club.
Lol you promised the world to Billy and then you backed out and said hang on a sec we’ve got four spuds that want to come to us, we have to split pick 6 to fit them all in, imagine trying to low ball Freo for a player that will be in your best three at the club if not the best, IF the deal some how goes through it will be higher than the one rejected.
Bell hasn’t missed out on one trade deal so far and yet you have the audacity to mock him, your list manager on the other hand has bitten more off than he can chew and is the one getting nervous i suspect.
Hill (imo) is NOT worth pick 6. Saints would have paid tremendous overs if they have that pick to Freo.
12 is about right for a contracted player who is a good player with few individual awards to his name.
12 is about right for a contracted player who is a good player with few individual awards to his name.
Purpellian Anchor
Purple Admiralty
What was the exact offer that has not been officially announced nor confirmed by both sides?
Dangerfield -Uncontracted with picks 9 and 28 plus Gore the deal for Dangerfield and pick 55. No he was not the best player in the competition at the time but up there.
Geelong did well Adelaide not so although they got 154 games from him (life member).
Purpellian Anchor
Purple Admiralty
That is straight out false re Fremantle's response through Bell. Thats a basic fact.
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Honestly, do you think everyone should be waiting till the deals done to be measuring dicks?
Danger was a restricted free agent Brad isn't So not comparable trades . Patrick would have cost the earth as a contracted player.
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Let me guess - you have no evidence - but its the vibe hey.
But in reality Bell clearly knew Hill wanted to leave in June and Bell himself subsequently met with a number of clubs in late August to discuss a possible deal.
As I've said - not poaching.
28 August 2019
"So back in June-July we had a conversation with (football operations manager) Peter Bell that Brad, for family reasons, wants to move back to Melbourne." Young told SEN radio.
Freo's endurance king requests trade back to Victoria
Bradley Hill formally asks for a move to Victoria but Dockers vow to act in the club's best interests
www.afl.com.au
28 August 2019
Among the news was that Hill officially told the Dockers back in June he wanted to move back to Melbourne.
Dockers football boss Peter Bell is expected to meet with Melbourne-based clubs as early as Monday to hold preliminary discussions on possible trade deals for the gifted Hill.
Fremantle resigned to losing star winger Brad Hill
Dockers football boss Peter Bell is expected to meet with Melbourne-based clubs as early as Monday to hold preliminary discussions on possible trade deals for the gifted Hill.
Also quite amusing when you add it to their shoddy treatment of the contracted players on their list who they want to shove out the door. List management seems an utter shambles.Why are we even still arguing here??.
This trade is done, as in its not happening.
We keep one of the best wingers in the AFL while we can still trade him next year (if he still wants to go) with all the same conditions in place.
Meanwhile the aints get.... hmmm well continued to be known as pretty much a try hard pathetic minnow club that can’t back up its own words with actions.
Every single player agents will know now don’t bother with the aints cause they just talk
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Is there a recycle badge on BF? Anyone who visits this thread regularly deserves an award for reading the same arguements(from both sides) over and over and over again..
