B. Hill will go from laser chest passes to Hawthorns forwards, to long bombs one on two freo forwards. Your gameplan/structure favors him and you have a forward structure, something we don't have at all unfortunately.
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They play a similar role for their teams and if we've identified the ability to spread as a weakness (Ross mentioned this during the game this week) then trading one runner for another might not add what we are after.
I didn't say they were equal players in ability so relax.
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If Langdon prefer to stay , i dont think freo should trade him for b.hills . If he prefer to go home then is different situation. I still prefer the three amigo then the bro factor. Something new and refresh.
There is now way we'll entertain a swap for Sheridan. Can't kick the ball, awful decision maker.
Apparently still wakes up with cold sweats in the middle of the night with nightmares of Cyril chasing him down.
I would think the Hawks would shoot for an early second round pick or late 1st (depending where freo sit in the draft order) and/or a shuffling of picks - around that mark anyway.
Freo get a line breaking runner and much needed elite ball user about to enter the prime of his career who would seemingly thrive on the open expanses of Subiaco.
Hawks get the necessary pick which opens the door for us to become big players in landing an Omera, Crouch type. Theres been rumblings for a while now that this year we would have a serious crack at a big fish. Hills departure seemingly paves the way for this to happen.
Seems win/win for me.
I don't believe Freo have a player we want. Langdon has been suggested however I don't believe its our style to go after a player of such speculative value.
Mate you seriously need to have a look at how good Langdon is and how much potential he has. Would happily keep him but it looks like he may go back to Melbourne.
You would be stark raving mad not to grab him before Collingwood get him.. It all potential but could probably walk past Hill, in a year or two.
Haven't seen a great deal of him to be honest but will keep an eye out.
Just more in the belief we'll do whatever we can do land a much needed elite mid in the ilk of O'meara, Crouch etc. Hilly leaving maybe gives us that chance.
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if your looking at O'meara/Crouch though, the pick for hill wouldn't be of much help. Each would be worth ~pick 1-3 this year, not early second + late first.
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Stuff the hawks, when was the last time freo actually done good in a trade? ? Hill is good in your team will struggle over here. If he wants home fine but wait a year and come for free
Seems convenient that B hill is suffering homesickness, after all the drama last year with GWS, and Cam, I dont mind him coming to Freo for the
right price, but I would be wary of both those clubs.
As for Ross Lyon, he has form with doing deals, bringing in other discarded Afl players, looking for the quick fix, our list is not crap, and I'm hoping
we do a mini rebuild, over several years, than Messiah trades.
Ross just needs to work on a new hybrid gameplan, and ensure our preseason runs as smoothly as possible.
right price, but I would be wary of both those clubs.
As for Ross Lyon, he has form with doing deals, bringing in other discarded Afl players, looking for the quick fix, our list is not crap, and I'm hoping
we do a mini rebuild, over several years, than Messiah trades.
Ross just needs to work on a new hybrid gameplan, and ensure our preseason runs as smoothly as possible.
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We have 11 players who could be gone this year, and only a few will get us a draft pick. We also have at least 3 players who will be gone with in 2 years, we can not afford to give up more than 1 player or pick for hill and I don't believe you can afford to trade out pick 3 when SPS is exactly what we need.
I would rather wait until next year for Hill, when he is out of contract.
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We have 11 players who could be gone this year, and only a few will get us a draft pick. We also have at least 3 players who will be gone with in 2 years, we can not afford to give up more than 1 player or pick for hill and I don't believe you can afford to trade out pick 3 when SPS is exactly what we need.
I would rather wait until next year for Hill, when he is out of contract.
Check out the replay of the game on Sunday to see who good Langdon played. 2 goals and 23 disposals ain't bad for a young kid.
And you say Hawks would chase Omeara. I realise that he could be elite, but aren't you worried about him being injury prone. Just look at Morrobito, pick 4 I think and reoccurring knee injuries. And is you did go after Omeara, what number pick would you expect to use on him?
Knowing what bond and co is like we will sell the farmwe dont need brad hill
Based on what?
Bond arrived in 2008. Who did we sell the farm to get?
I completely agree with this. This is what our club should be working on and thinking sensibly by not getting spanked at the draft table.
So which is it?
Lyon must not bring in any discarded players?
Or Lyon must not have any Messiah trades?
I would have thought that Brad Hill is neither of those. Being Best 22 in the most successful team, having three premierships and still being young suggests that he will not be a discarded player. I also hope that we don't lose too much to get him; if we lose Langdon we may go on to regret it, but if Ed was going anyway, then them's the breaks.
McCarthy was looking like being a Messiah trade, but that has all changed now. In my opinion, we will be lucky to see him back at all, and everyone's expectations should be lowered (and therefore trade terms should be lowered too).
Hawthorn got to where it was by some great draft pick ups and a whole series of trades to fill the holes in their list. There is nothing wrong with trading when an opportunity presents itself. It's harder to get players to come to WA, so Fremantle should try to grab the opportunities when they arise, for a fair price.
And as far as your first statement, are you suggesting a conspiracy, just because two Western Australians are homesick? A stretch.
Serious?
What's happened is Brad Hill wants to play with his brother Stephen. That's all at this stage. That's as clear cut as anything. Hawks aren't identifying Langdon. With all due respect to Langdon he's not exactly someone you identify to then hand over one of your own in Hill. Langdon is all speculation albeit strong speculation.
Your scenario is honestly just ludicrous.
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This is entirely feasible. Who knows. At least with a swap like this one, we won't be getting r*ped by Hawthorn at the trade table again. The bad old days are still fresh in the memory.
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Enter Shaun Burgoyne knee, Brian Lake... etc. We have one of the best fitness coaches in the business. Whoever we get I'm not worried, but I'd prefer a pick than any of your fringe players.
Just feels like a con job, with Clarkson coming out directly with the homesick story, just as you
said Hawks are astute, they have there eye on someone, and they don't lose players they
want to keep, players want to play at Hawthorn.
Our history is full of quick fixes, Saints did too when Lyon coached them.
If Hill comes at the right price, and it doesn't affect the balance of the list, all good.
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What makes you say this?
