Toast #BringBackTheBars - Our Heritage, Our History, Our Right! Part 2

[Alberton Proud]

Hey Richo

I make this solemn promise

If we get to wear the Bars in our home Showdown and one is available I swear I will buy a PB Jumper and proudly wear it to the game

Multiply this by 10,000 die hard supporters

Now you can afford to sack the Brilliant Mind and have some change left over for drinks after

Just do it

 

[tribey]

I shouldn't quote this crap but the username of another non-Port supporter who knows more about our history than we do cracked me up

FMD, Fam. I’m trying to quit ragetweeting.

 

[bomberclifford]

Cos Cardone does not give a s**t about what the supporters want the team to wear
Darren Cahill does not give a s**t about what the supporters want the team to wear

These two do, but for diametrically opposed reasons.

 

[Interstater]

Why the hell don't the club want to talk about this publicly.

Ridiculous IMO.

We have been so weak on this issue and keep setting the bar lower and lower.

Because we are now a franchise.
Those in charge of the franchise just kiss the arse of those in charge.

Even with a membership of 60k and nearly 60k signatures saying people want the bars they don't have the courage to just do it.

That submissive attitude pervades the entire club and its why we are embracing mediocrity both on and off the field.
It's why they have to literally give away memberships now.

I'm at the point that I don't think I'll ever go to a game again, I'm struggling to even have interest in watching the matches shown on TV.
If the club shut its doors tomorrow it would probably be a good thing, before this pursuit of ordinary becomes generational.

 

[Powerade 08]

Why are people mad about this now? We knew ages ago it was either 2 showdowns a year, then 1, and probably none.

At this point I would just be happy for us to get anything from the momentum built last year. Otherwise we probably never see the bars again.

 

[simba_]

Why are people mad about this now? We knew ages ago it was either 2 showdowns a year, then 1, and probably none.

At this point I would just be happy for us to get anything from the momentum built last year. Otherwise we probably never see the bars again.

we are mad every single day -_-

 

[malcheski]

we are mad every single day -_-

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[Lagooner]

I’m sick of reading the same reheated articles on this year after year.

Stop asking. Just wear it. Force the AFL to punish us and expose it for the joke that it is. Let it become the first sporting administration in world sport to sanction one of its teams for CLOTHES. Then do it again.

 

[Winganeen]

I think Brisbane are wearing their heritage Blue, Red and Gold Fitzroy jumper against Carlton this week, aren't they?

 

[Enviable Tradition]

I think Brisbane are wearing their heritage Blue, Red and Gold Fitzroy jumper against Carlton this week, aren't they?

It must be heritage round. Just wear the bars.

 

[bomberclifford]

Why are people mad about this now? We knew ages ago it was either 2 showdowns a year, then 1, and probably none.

At this point I would just be happy for us to get anything from the momentum built last year. Otherwise we probably never see the bars again.

Because it didn't need to be so diluted. Showdowns should have been the first step, not the only step. Now it's just one Showdown, maybe.

We've lost any power we had from the groundswell of support behind the cause by being so weak and inept at how we've handled it.

Richo and Koch want to say "we won" by delivering a token result in a home showdown, instead of standing firm and saying "we lost for now but will jeep fighting because we believe in it"

The fight is where the power lies.
Giving in destroys everything that was ever done by the club and supporters to show how much this means.

Giving in shows that they did, indeed, tear us apart and rebuilt us as a weak facsimile.

 

[PA88]

I think Brisbane are wearing their heritage Blue, Red and Gold Fitzroy jumper against Carlton this week, aren't they?

They often do in away games, particularly in Victoria. They did last week against Melbourne.

 

[Winganeen]

They often do in away games, particularly in Victoria. They did last week against Melbourne.

But did anyone check with Collingwood about this?

 

[Grave Danger]

I really thought this would be the time to strike with a big faargen sledgehammer
The wobbles are in disarray in my opinion, new prez incoming, the whole Lumumba scenario and no doubt plenty of other 'things' swept under the carpet
Get stuck in with a strong, decisive plan and don't stop, don't relent, don't accept anything but wearing the prison bars in all home games at an absolute minimum.
The wobbles to wear an 'away' strip when playing us at home, with the stadium saturated with the prison bars.

Our Right
Our Heritage
We Are Port Adelaide

Probably an over reaction, but the new prez is already behaving like the previous one, so strike while the iron is hot...

Pies prez under fire for making ‘appalling, disrespectful’ De Goey joke in front of AFLW side

Pies prez under fire for making ‘appalling, disrespectful’ De Goey joke in front of AFLW side

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[PA88]

But did anyone check with Collingwood about this?

I'm sure the footy world didn't get confused and think that Fitzroy FC has returned as a stand alone club. Catastrophic to the Lion's trademark if one or two supporters did get confused.

 

[VineValerian]

From 2 Showdowns to 1....soon they'll negotiate to wear it in the change rooms only.

Team photos only

 

[Andre]

Any noise on this from the club is just to distract the white noise from Hinkley. It'll be 'well we talked to the AFL, but we ran out of time, we'll try again next year'.

The club lacks the balls to wear it anyway, especially whilst they are busy peddling we're in contentions for finals still (Narrator: Port isn't). The irony that in being so busy trying to protect Hinkley, if they picked a game like this week against Freo, where we aren't going to win anyway, they could say 'With all the emotion that's why they lost (and will miss finals), but it was more important to make a stand. Ken sacrificed himself for the club. You can thank him as he coaches 2024-2025!'.

 

[VineValerian]

lol, Collingwood have trademarked black and white.

Can someone please explain to the AFL that organisations cannot trademark standard colours.
Reference Cadbury's, and the colour purple court case.

This excuse is complete and utter bull**** and will not stand up in any Court.
Grows some agates ffs Port. Call the bluff

Sick of meandering around year after year achieving nothing - on or off the field!

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

The league has not allowed Port Adelaide to wear the traditional black and white striped jumper since 2019 in a one-off appearance to commemorate the club’s 150th anniversary
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But Sydney and Brisbane have both worn heritage-style jumpers in recent weeks celebrating their heritage.
Hawthorn has also worn a Legends guernsey honouring John Kennedy Sr in recent seasons.

Former Collingwood president Eddie McGuire was a vocal critic of the club’s desire to celebrate a heritage that includes 36 SANFL premierships.
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It is known now how strongly new Collingwood president Jeff Browne feels about the proposal but the Power’s proposal is that it wear its prison bar jumper once a year in the home showdown.

I wrote about Jeff Browne, 12 months ago. Ex U/19 collingwood player, teacher who gave up and went and studied law, fell into to advising players, handled the post 1981 season clearance of brownlow medallists Peter Moore and Kelvin Templeton to Melbourne in maybe the biggest VFL story ever, became the go to guy for players wanting to move clubs, won a couple of big free agency cases in the early/mid 80's.

At the end of 1985 after the VFL Commission was set up, with a lot less powers than after August 1993 when clubs adopted the Crawford Report recommendations, new commissioner Graeme Samuel said lets get him inside the tent pissing out and get him as our outside legal counsel.

So between 1985 and 2006 Browne was paid a retainer to be the league's legal counsel ( Andrew Dillon has done that job internally since 2006) and he wrote all the AFL Rules and AFL Regulations over that 2 decades as well as have a hand in the big legal contracts - including the clubs' assignment of logos, trademarks, designs etc to the AFL legal department so they could market the games and clubs' IP more effectively, with licensing agreements, chase up those who have infringed on those rights, and the clubs get paid a licence fee from the AFL from those proceeds it collected.

McGuire took him to Sydney in 2006 to help run Channel 9 when 9 needed a front man as MD to restructure as the Packer's exited 9. 9 sacked McGuire but kept on Browne, as an executive and board member as private equity took over 9 and expanded to Nine Entertainment and from TV and internet assets added radio and newspapers. He was Sydney based until he became GM of 9 Melbourne, ran that, and was heavily involved in 9's bid for NRL, AFL, Tennis, Cricket and other sports rights the decade he served at 9.

Browne knows the legal workings of all the logos and trademark stuff better than anyone else involved in the AFL. This is why I think we are going behind closed doors. McGuire shouts and is bombastic about us wearing the bars. It gets us nowhere. Even hard nut Demetriou couldn't get McGuire to be reasonable about our requests and talked about how worked up McGuire would get about this and having to wear clash jumpers, after he had retired as CEO.

If we are trying to do some deal with the AFL and Collingwood, its Browne who we have to convince to do it as he would be aware of all the legal reasons why the AFL has to block it. I have no idea how reasonable Browne will be, but history shows he is a tough negotiator and will extract a price for it. From a Robert Gottlibsen article I quoted last June when he compared the business acumen of Jeff Browne vs Mark Korda as they battled for the Collingwood presidency.

The looming battle between Jeff Browne and Mark Korda for the presidency of the Collingwood Football Club will be a classic tussle between two different ways of doing business. Jeff Browne was described by former Nine Network chief executive David Gyngell as being “robust and talented” and “the best deal closer in the business”. Those who have been in skirmishes with Browne say the word “robust” is an understatement.

Jeff Browne spent about 20 years as a legal adviser to the AFL. He was no ordinary legal adviser. At the time, Graeme Samuel was masterminding the strategy to take the suburban Melbourne football competition into a national league. Browne’s ability to “robustly” help bring some clubs into line was part of that extremely difficult task but it worked, culminating in the big TV contracts that Browne helped secure.
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After a time it was clear to all that it was not going to work for anyone and Eddie McGuire returned to Melbourne. In normal circumstances the person he appointed to work alongside him would also have departed. But “robust” Browne was much more adept at handling the then Nine culture and he stayed. In time a big part of Browne’s job became to do the big deals. He secured new Nine agreements with rugby league, cricket and WIN plus the purchase of WIN’s Adelaide and Perth operation.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

By round 23 our season will be over wear it anyway. Screw the four points if we aren’t playing finals

 

[bomberclifford]

Browne knows the legal workings of all the logos and trademark stuff better than anyone else involved in the AFL. This is why I think we are going behind closed doors. McGuire shouts and is bombastic about us wearing the bars. It gets us nowhere. Even hard nut Demetriou couldn't get McGuire to be reasonable about our requests and talked about how worked up McGuire would get about this and having to wear clash jumpers, after he had retired as CEO.

So in other words, he knows that there is no legal leg to stand on and in fact that the behaviour of his predecessor in drafting and signing that 2007 agreement would not hold up if matters get legal.

This is all about helping Collingwood, a power Victorian club, save face. IMO we should be pushing harder, not softer, because we'll end up being served table scraps and told to love it.

 

[JayPea14]

By round 23 our season will be over wear it anyway. Screw the four points if we aren’t playing finals

If they dock us all our points will we get the #1 draft pick?

 

[Interstater]

Wear it for the rest of the season, especially against Collingwood at the MCG, and take the blows.
Its the only way you will get back any respect.

Stop being so damned spineless off the field and call their bloody bluff.

 

[Rising Power]

If they dock us all our points will we get the #1 draft pick?

Wouldn't just be points. More likely to be excluded from the first 3 rounds of the draft plus a 6 figure fine. Regards, Gil.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

By round 23 our season will be over wear it anyway. Screw the four points if we aren’t playing finals

The problem with doing it then is that by the time they decide a penalty our season will be over so they will deduct 2023 points as sure as eggs.