Preview Brisbane Lions vs Camry Crom @ Adelaide Oval – 28 May 2023 @ 4.40pm

[dlanod]

Ok, are some of you actually being triggered by posters on bigfooty referring to us as the Bears?

Hooly dooly. It's all in good fun people.

Maybe it's because I lurk on other boards often, but I see it daily. Gives me a chuckle.

Not sure where you've been lurking but (this Adelaide thread aside, because I doubt they honestly care about us) the posters that trot out "the Bears" most often are inevitably the ones that spend the most time spewing shit about us, i.e it's all part and parcel of their attempts to put us down.

That was consistently the case before I pulled up sticks and stopped going to the common boards because it just wasn't worth it - maybe it's a miracle and now it's all civil and in good humour but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Not sure where you've been lurking but (this Adelaide thread aside, because I doubt they honestly care about us) the posters that trot out "the Bears" most often are inevitably the ones that spend the most time spewing s**t about us, i.e it's all part and parcel of their attempts to put us down.

That was consistently the case before I pulled up sticks and stopped going to the common boards because it just wasn't worth it - maybe it's a miracle and now it's all civil and in good humour but I'm not holding my breath.

As a former Bears fan myself, it stings a bit, because people call us Bears as an attempt to belittle us. Calling us Fitzroy would be giving us a kind of nobility so we're never called that, and that's the double standard that annoys. I loved the Bears and was proud of what we achieved - the struggle of the Suns shows that going from f**k all to within a win of the minor premiership and the grand final in our tenth season was pretty good going.

 

[Nunez]

Can someone just go on their board and say "dare to beat the bear campaigners!"

I vote BRAB

 

[Viceregal]

Squiggle likes their team adjustment more than outs (presumably will update again after the final teams are announced?)

Adelaide 85 - 90 Brisbane Lions

Adelaide Oval (SA)
HGA:

+11.1 pts
Ins/Outs:

+4.6 pts

 

[Thomasno]

Having watched it on my wife I am inclined to agree.Killing a poison with another poison.Hopefully medical advances will render it ancient history.

Let me tell you about a lovely evolving drug class called Monoclonal Antibodies…

 

[Thomasno]

Everyone can get appropriately palliated with the right care, advice and drugs. Something the community is generally unaware of ,or have access to.

Anybody absolutely cannot be palliated lol, it’s a specific process and pathway enacted when a terminal phase is approaching. Sometimes if for example a patient refuses treatment, or a poor prognosis is likely, there can be palliative care involvement, but that’s different to being palliated.

Both of those things are very different again to what old mate was talking about RE Canada and the whole “euthanasia if you ask for it regardless of reason” thing. Which, as a medical professional, I agree is absolutely insane.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Squiggle likes their team adjustment more than outs (presumably will update again after the final teams are announced?)

Adelaide 85 - 90 Brisbane Lions

Adelaide Oval (SA)
HGA:

+11.1 pts
Ins/Outs:

+4.6 pts

Note Squiggle has Rayner as an omission at present however, as he's named 5th on the bench (numerical order). Think this will change a bit after 5pm today.

 

[Elixuh]

Ok, are some of you actually being triggered by posters on bigfooty referring to us as the Bears?

Hooly dooly. It's all in good fun people.

Maybe it's because I lurk on other boards often, but I see it daily. Gives me a chuckle.

Some teams are known as the filth, others simply referred to as '*'. The Bears or the Brions, pretty tame in comparison lol

It's like some of you have never read an Enid Blyton book before.

I’m not triggered I’m just mad.

Nvm this cheered me up.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Of all the ‘away’ grounds outside of Victoria, I think the Adelaide Oval suits us best. It might be a trick of the light, but it seems like a we have space to run into and for some aggressive field kicking in Adelaide, which certainly compliments our style.

2022


2021


I think we have Adelaide’s measure and am expecting a win that is not too dissimilar to our wins in 2021 and 2022.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Lions by 17 pts.

 

[notliondown]

Obviously I’m a touched biased being young and queer but I feel it’s a tad weird to have a moral compass based on the belief of a judgmental deity or religion. Religious institutions often preach axioms or assertions that cause implicit harm on others while talking about the importance of love and assertions.

I won’t pretend like my core moral beliefs of respect, forgiveness and acceptance were not learnt from my cultural Christian upbringing, but I’ve become disenfranchised with the idea of faith being a prerequisite for people to develop such a system. So I agree with you about just needing respect for others and yourself.

I wouldn’t be allowed to exist peacefully in many states within the US without breaking some laws inspired by modern religious institutions. Even in Melbourne there were some not very nice people doing some not very nice signals while holding up a sign branding people like me as pedophiles and calling for my death. So I guess I don’t exactly see the need for it.

I can not see morality being "learned" via religious teachings. We just know deep down in the gut/innately right from wrong.

Edit- I shall now stop derailing this thread.

I guess being the same (not so young anymore!) as buttermuffs I can promise you that unfortunately "morality" is definitely learned via religious teachings.

I'm watching in horror as governor Desantis passes legislation in Florida (and many other Red states are following suit so he's no outlier) that now is so pointed yet so vague that LGBTQIA people can now be convicted as sex offenders - which now carries a reintroduced death penalty. And these laws are passed with a straight face and comments like "it's wrong to have your values forced onto our children and you are pushing an agenda" aimed directly at minorities groups yet ignoring the blatant hypocrisy that they uttered.

Right or wrong is an inherently biased proposition. It's affected by community, upbringing, economic status, survival. It's based on what you know, what you are taught whether that is a formal process or one of just being where you live, and what you have to do to exist.

Just as respect is a taught and learnt value. Some cultures put little value on human life. And nearly all can be coerced into marching off to murder their fellow man in the name of some misguided conquest.

The moment we stop working on learning about each other, our differences and our values, and actually accepting that view points other than our own are just as valid, we run the risk of losing that gut feeling you rightly talk about. Humans unfortunately need to be reminded constantly what right and wrong really means.

 

[Dalions]

Of all the ‘away’ grounds outside of Victoria, I think the Adelaide Oval suits us best. It might be a trick of the light, but it seems like a we have space to run into and for some aggressive field kicking in Adelaide, which certainly compliments our style.

2022


2021


I think we have Adelaide’s measure and am expecting a win that is not too dissimilar to our wins in 2021 and 2022.

Expecting this weekends game to be pretty similar to both of those games.
Adelaide will be up and about early and in it, until we pull away, with too much class and experience in the end.

 

[3KZ is Football]

I guess being the same (not so young anymore!) as buttermuffs I can promise you that unfortunately "morality" is definitely learned via religious teachings.

I'm watching in horror as governor Desantis passes legislation in Florida (and many other Red states are following suit so he's no outlier) that now is so pointed yet so vague that LGBTQIA people can now be convicted as sex offenders - which now carries a reintroduced death penalty. And these laws are passed with a straight face and comments like "it's wrong to have your values forced onto our children and you are pushing an agenda" aimed directly at minorities groups yet ignoring the blatant hypocrisy that they uttered.

Right or wrong is an inherently biased proposition. It's affected by community, upbringing, economic status, survival. It's based on what you know, what you are taught whether that is a formal process or one of just being where you live, and what you have to do to exist.

Just as respect is a taught and learnt value. Some cultures put little value on human life. And nearly all can be coerced into marching off to murder their fellow man in the name of some misguided conquest.

The moment we stop working on learning about each other, our differences and our values, and actually accepting that view points other than our own are just as valid, we run the risk of losing that gut feeling you rightly talk about. Humans unfortunately need to be reminded constantly what right and wrong really means.

Wow - I thought I could derail a thread, but you guys are next level!

 

[M Malice]

I guess being the same (not so young anymore!) as buttermuffs I can promise you that unfortunately "morality" is definitely learned via religious teachings.

I'm watching in horror as governor Desantis passes legislation in Florida (and many other Red states are following suit so he's no outlier) that now is so pointed yet so vague that LGBTQIA people can now be convicted as sex offenders - which now carries a reintroduced death penalty. And these laws are passed with a straight face and comments like "it's wrong to have your values forced onto our children and you are pushing an agenda" aimed directly at minorities groups yet ignoring the blatant hypocrisy that they uttered.

Right or wrong is an inherently biased proposition. It's affected by community, upbringing, economic status, survival. It's based on what you know, what you are taught whether that is a formal process or one of just being where you live, and what you have to do to exist.

Just as respect is a taught and learnt value. Some cultures put little value on human life. And nearly all can be coerced into marching off to murder their fellow man in the name of some misguided conquest.

The moment we stop working on learning about each other, our differences and our values, and actually accepting that view points other than our own are just as valid, we run the risk of losing that gut feeling you rightly talk about. Humans unfortunately need to be reminded constantly what right and wrong really means.

Are you saying that all that is stopping us from raping, pillaging, plundering, murdering etc is the prevailing societal norms and threat of eternal damnation from the overseer in the sky?

Institutionalised religion IMO has be a net negative for society.

 

[Davemonkey]

Squiggle likes their team adjustment more than outs (presumably will update again after the final teams are announced?)

Adelaide 85 - 90 Brisbane Lions

Adelaide Oval (SA)
HGA:

+11.1 pts
Ins/Outs:

+4.6 pts

They have Rayner listed as an out. Did I miss something?
Just saw Grasshopper17's post above

 

[Maboo]

Are you saying that all that is stopping us from raping, pillaging, plundering, murdering etc is the prevailing societal norms and threat of eternal damnation from the overseer in the sky?

Institutionalised religion IMO has be a net negative for society.

Oooh I don’t fancy being pillaged

 

[Ironmonger]

Of all the ‘away’ grounds outside of Victoria, I think the Adelaide Oval suits us best. It might be a trick of the light, but it seems like a we have space to run into and for some aggressive field kicking in Adelaide, which certainly compliments our style.

I think we have Adelaide’s measure and am expecting a win that is not too dissimilar to our wins

Right now our team is a couple of levels above the Crows.

I'm a bit less confident about playing them in the rain, though. It'll blunt both teams big weapons, but ours more.

 

[bungalow_bill]

I guess being the same (not so young anymore!) as buttermuffs I can promise you that unfortunately "morality" is definitely learned via religious teachings.

I'm watching in horror as governor Desantis passes legislation in Florida (and many other Red states are following suit so he's no outlier) that now is so pointed yet so vague that LGBTQIA people can now be convicted as sex offenders - which now carries a reintroduced death penalty. And these laws are passed with a straight face and comments like "it's wrong to have your values forced onto our children and you are pushing an agenda" aimed directly at minorities groups yet ignoring the blatant hypocrisy that they uttered.

Right or wrong is an inherently biased proposition. It's affected by community, upbringing, economic status, survival. It's based on what you know, what you are taught whether that is a formal process or one of just being where you live, and what you have to do to exist.

Just as respect is a taught and learnt value. Some cultures put little value on human life. And nearly all can be coerced into marching off to murder their fellow man in the name of some misguided conquest.

The moment we stop working on learning about each other, our differences and our values, and actually accepting that view points other than our own are just as valid, we run the risk of losing that gut feeling you rightly talk about. Humans unfortunately need to be reminded constantly what right and wrong really means.

Desantis is a horrible human but the upside of this and his recent abortion ban is that his chances of becoming president and slim to none. He and other right wingers are fighting a losing war though and they know it hence the extreme legislation

 

[Elixuh]

I think it is the right time for the discussion about religion to come to and end, some really insightful points made on both sides.

We should now move to our final topic - discussion about the famous five, racism, euthanasia and religion has all led to this - did we make a mistake delisting Ben Keays

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Ben Keays

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.9

5star

G

0.4

3star

D

13.7

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

5.0

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.7

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

13.0

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.4

2star

T

4.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

?

 

[Nathan Barley]

Right now our team is a couple of levels above the Crows.

I'm a bit less confident about playing them in the rain, though. It'll blunt both teams big weapons, but ours more.

We're an excellent clearance, territory and fluky goal team. I think if there are times in the game significantly impacted by the weather it suits us just fine

We basically already play a wet weather game

 

[Viceregal]

I think it is the right time for the discussion about religion to come to and end, some really insightful points made on both sides.

We should now move to our final topic - discussion about the famous five, racism, euthanasia and religion has all led to this - did we make a mistake delisting Ben Keays?

Oh come on now - Religion and Politics is fine but discussing Ben Keays is just beyond the pale!

 

[bungalow_bill]

Are you saying that all that is stopping us from raping, pillaging, plundering, murdering etc is the prevailing societal norms and threat of eternal damnation from the overseer in the sky?

Institutionalised religion IMO has be a net negative for society.

All of these things have been done in the name of God. See: Crusades.

 

[Viceregal]

All of these things have been done in the name of God. See: Crusades.

And also in the name of nationlism, civilisation, survival, economics, pride, vengeance, fear, 'destiny', living room, racial purity, politics etc etc etc

Nearly every positive virtue we have can be twisted into a negative vice (and vice versa) kind of like two sides of a coin and tossing religion under the bus and giving the rest a pass is ... naive...

 

[M Malice]

I think it is the right time for the discussion about religion to come to and end, some really insightful points made on both sides.

We should now move to our final topic - discussion about the famous five, racism, euthanasia and religion has all led to this - did we make a mistake delisting Ben Keays?

Hell yes, and if you don't agree you're a heretic and should be burnt at the stake.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Take it to The Den (for our Brisbane residents that has an interesting connotation).