Preview Brisbane Lions vs Camry Crom @ Adelaide Oval – 28 May 2023 @ 4.40pm

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Obviously I’m a touched biased being young and queer but I feel it’s a tad weird to have a moral compass based on the belief of a judgmental deity or religion. Religious institutions often preach axioms or assertions that cause implicit harm on others while talking about the importance of love and assertions.

I won’t pretend like my core moral beliefs of respect, forgiveness and acceptance were not learnt from my cultural Christian upbringing, but I’ve become disenfranchised with the idea of faith being a prerequisite for people to develop such a system. So I agree with you about just needing respect for others and yourself.

I wouldn’t be allowed to exist peacefully in many states within the US without breaking some laws inspired by modern religious institutions. Even in Melbourne there were some not very nice people doing some not very nice signals while holding up a sign branding people like me as pedophiles and calling for my death. So I guess I don’t exactly see the need for it.
I can not see morality being "learned" via religious teachings. We just know deep down in the gut/innately right from wrong.

Edit- I shall now stop derailing this thread.
 

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Assuming Lester, Wilmot, Rayner and Rich will be on the bench with one of Dev, Cocky or Madden as the sub

Forwards: Joe, Hippy, Gunston, Charlie, Linc, Rayner and Bailey
Backs: Andrews, Gardiner, Lester, Starce, Rich, Kiddy and McKenna
On ballers: Neale, Dunkley, Ashcroft, Zorko and Oscar
Wings: Berry, Clug and Wilmot
 
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I can not see morality being "learned" via religious teachings. We just know deep down in the gut/innately right from wrong.

I agree. I should have clarified that even though I learned about my beliefs through religion, I didn’t choose to keep them as beliefs due to religion nor do I think religion is required for anyone to learn their beliefs.

I would much prefer people decide to love, respect, forgive and anything like that because they believe it’s the best thing to do for a better world instead of it being a prerequisite for some sort of afterlife.


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I think there's 3 to 15 mm of rain forecast for Sunday at this stage.
My knee jerk reaction would be to say this will be better for us, with bigger and more experienced bodies across the field. But then again the Adelaide v Collingwood game was played in the wet also and Adelaide started like a freight train just the same.
 
You would think the 4 interchange and 1 sub will come from the named bench- > Robertson, Rich, Cockatoo, Madden, Rayner, Fullarton, Lester, Wilmot.

Rayner, Lester and Wilmot are locks, that leaves 2 spots from the bolded above, I would go with Madden and Robertson.
 
I agree. I should have clarified that even though I learned about my beliefs through religion, I didn’t choose to keep them as beliefs due to religion nor do I think religion is required for anyone to learn their beliefs.

I would much prefer people decide to love, respect, forgive and anything like that because they believe it’s the best thing to do for a better world instead of it being a prerequisite for some sort of afterlife.


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Spot on, in fact if you need some sort of external force to know though shalt not steal, kill etc, that is a bit of a worry IMO.
 

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I'd settle for chemo being replaced with something that doesn't damn near kill you and leave you with a lifetime of complications.

That's barbaric.
Just a matter of time. New more sophisticated treatments such as immunotherapy and viruses that kill cancer cells such as the trial study below will hopefully soon make chemo a thing of the past.

 
That's because it's a Sunday game isn't it? Have the teams playing tomorrow and Saturday named squads as well?
Yep. I'm with martinson - it's completely ridiculous. The best system we had was during covid when every team got named the night before the game, with confirmation or late changes an hour before bounce down.

They only went back to this old system cos the Melbourne papers were having a cry about not being able to list all the teams in their Friday editions.

Don't know why we can't simply name the teams once: an hour before the bounce. It's never been a problem for cricket. Or soccer for that matter.
 
Yep. I'm with martinson - it's completely ridiculous. The best system we had was during covid when every team got named the night before the game, with confirmation or late changes an hour before bounce down.

They only went back to this old system cos the Melbourne papers were having a cry about not being able to list all the teams in their Friday editions.

Don't know why we can't simply name the teams once: an hour before the bounce. It's never been a problem for cricket. Or soccer for that matter.
Builds anticipation prior to the game as well.
 
Yep. I'm with martinson - it's completely ridiculous. The best system we had was during covid when every team got named the night before the game, with confirmation or late changes an hour before bounce down.

They only went back to this old system cos the Melbourne papers were having a cry about not being able to list all the teams in their Friday editions.

Don't know why we can't simply name the teams once: an hour before the bounce. It's never been a problem for cricket. Or soccer for that matter.

Given we play Frankston in the VFL on Saturday, we'd have a fair idea about what our team is going to look like when the VFL team is announced anyway wouldn't we?
 
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