Brownlow Medal 2009 (Part 1)

[Shut up Flanders]

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You gave bowden the 3 votes for the worst ever 40+ possesion game??

Im asssuming this because there is no melbourne player in the 3 vote list, and bowden is yet to play a half decent game.

Sorry don't agree!

Yeah i was really tossing up whether to give him the 3 or Aaron Davey. Probably should have gone Davey as he was in the winning team, so i will make a change there.

 

[Shut up Flanders]

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bias?

....Nah i've tried to do it properly. Nicky Dal has had 2 really dominant game where he is almost a certainty to get the 3 votes. Gablett on the other hand has had a few games where he has been really good but other Cats players have also had ripper games so he may have got the 2 votes. With Dal Santo up against Kane Cornes this week i expect to see Gary hit the front next week

 

[scooterselwood]

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Can I see what people have had for west coast round 2 and round 4 (against port and dogs).

Thanks.

 

[Dangas]

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....Nah i've tried to do it properly. Nicky Dal has had 2 really dominant game where he is almost a certainty to get the 3 votes. Gablett on the other hand has had a few games where he has been really good but other Cats players have also had ripper games so he may have got the 2 votes. With Dal Santo up against Kane Cornes this week i expect to see Gary hit the front next week

The issue is that other players from the cats will take votes away from ablett, like in last years brownlow count, the matches he dominated and was predicted to get BOG, he didn't. but then again, he polled votes vise versa

 

[Athomas]

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Can I see what people have had for west coast round 2 and round 4 (against port and dogs).

Thanks.

I've gone:

Round 2
WCE/Port - 3. ASelwood 2. Kerr 1. Cox

Round 4
WCE/Wbd - 3. Wirrpanda 2. Kerr 1. Cox

ASelwood and Higgins could easily poll in Round 4 though.

 

[Shut up Flanders]

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I've got:

ROUND 2:
3. D.Kerr
2. A.Selwood
1. S.Salopek

ROUND 4:
3. D.Wirrpanda
2. D.Kerr
1. A.Embley

 

[scooterselwood]

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I've gone:

Round 2
WCE/Port - 3. ASelwood 2. Kerr 1. Cox

Round 4
WCE/Wbd - 3. Wirrpanda 2. Kerr 1. Cox

ASelwood and Higgins could easily poll in Round 4 though.

Swap Kerr and Selwood around for the first game and your spot on. Sure, Adam Selwood got a shitload of the ball, but Kerr's 3rd quarter, contested ball and his more flashy playing style, should see him get the 3. It's been proven that the umps love him.

In the second game, seeing as Cox's disposal wasn't the best and he doesn't have the best form with the umps, I reckon Higgins will get the 1 vote. Considering it wasn't a blowout, I would think the umps would give the last vote to a western bulldogs player anyway.

I've got:

ROUND 2:
3. D.Kerr
2. A.Selwood
1. S.Salopek

ROUND 4:
3. D.Wirrpanda
2. D.Kerr
1. A.Embley

Considering the size of the win, it seems likely that Salopek would struggle to get a vote for that game. If there were any chance of a port player getting a vote in that game, surely Motlop would get it. I think Cox.

See above for why i think Higgins > Embley.

for the record I reviewed my BM votes and I went with this:

ROUND 2:
3. D.Kerr
2. A.Selwood
1. D.Cox

ROUND 4:
3. D.Wirrpanda
2. D.Kerr
1. S Higgins

What did you guys have for round 1 v brisbane?

 

[banta]

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been looking all over for this thread, haha. good to see that others are looking to be well placed when it comes to placing a few bets at the end of the year.
no idea how accurate my votes are but i guess we'll find out brownlow night.
Eagels VS Lions RD1. I had:
3. T. Johnstone
2. M. LeCras
1. L. Power
(R. Hooper was pretty close to sneaking a vote, found this game tough though, so mainly went with the midfielders who the umps love).
Did anyone catch the carlton vs sydney game this week? Have no idea about that game. Votes would be appreciated. cheers

 

[Athomas]

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been looking all over for this thread, haha. good to see that others are looking to be well placed when it comes to placing a few bets at the end of the year.
no idea how accurate my votes are but i guess we'll find out brownlow night.
Eagels VS Lions RD1. I had:
3. T. Johnstone
2. M. LeCras
1. L. Power
(R. Hooper was pretty close to sneaking a vote, found this game tough though, so mainly went with the midfielders who the umps love).
Did anyone catch the carlton vs sydney game this week? Have no idea about that game. Votes would be appreciated. cheers

RShaw/JMcveigh for the swans and Waite for Carlton. Could go in any order really.

 

[Athomas]

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Swap Kerr and Selwood around for the first game and your spot on. Sure, Adam Selwood got a shitload of the ball, but Kerr's 3rd quarter, contested ball and his more flashy playing style, should see him get the 3. It's been proven that the umps love him.

In the second game, seeing as Cox's disposal wasn't the best and he doesn't have the best form with the umps, I reckon Higgins will get the 1 vote. Considering it wasn't a blowout, I would think the umps would give the last vote to a western bulldogs player anyway.



Considering the size of the win, it seems likely that Salopek would struggle to get a vote for that game. If there were any chance of a port player getting a vote in that game, surely Motlop would get it. I think Cox.

See above for why i think Higgins > Embley.

for the record I reviewed my BM votes and I went with this:

ROUND 2:
3. D.Kerr
2. A.Selwood
1. D.Cox

ROUND 4:
3. D.Wirrpanda
2. D.Kerr
1. S Higgins

What did you guys have for round 1 v brisbane?

Your votes look spot on as well. Still think A Selwood deserved the 3 in RD2 though so I'm keeping it that way. And Cox vs Higgins for the 1 point is killing me!

Round 1: Bris/WCE - 3. Johntsone 2. Power 1. Le Cras

 

[asanque]

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My brownlow count at the completion of round 4:

10: Dal Santo

9: Ablett

6: Pearce, Judd

5: Murphy, Goddard, Mitchell, Gilbee, Stanton, Kerr

4: Richo, Swan, Tredrea

3: Gibbs, N.Brown, Vince, Edwards, Johnstone, Harding,
Hasleby, Drummond, Chapman, Goodes, Winderlich, Griffen, C.Cornes, S.Tuck, Pendlebury, Lockyer, Montagna , Harvey, Bowden, Wirrpanda

2: McLeod, Power, Moloney, P Burgoyne, Boyd, Didak, Schammer, Bateman, Bruce, J.Bolton, Jolly, Fletcher, Simpson, A Selwood, Waite, Bartel, N.Riewoldt, Aa.Davey

1: Bradshaw, Wiggins, S Johnson, Fletcher, Ball, McDonald, Higgins, Goodwin, Green, Symes, Guerra, Fevola, Adcock, McVeigh, Watson, Cross, Salopek, Akermanis, Dalziell, Boak, Kirk, Corey, Hale, Embley

Montagna will be more then 3. Whilst a lesser light and not as well known as Dal Santo, he has been superb.

Mitchell is not on 5.
He had shockers against Port and Swans.
Against Geelong, the votes will be shared by Ablett, Ottens and S.Johnson in round 1.

S.Johnson is not on 1, he'll be much higher.

Richo on 4 after Richmond lost all 4 games? I think unlikely at best.

Then again, who knows with the biased umpiring.

 

[Athomas]

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Leaked Brownlow Votes:

Round 4 Brownlow votes Running Total:

10: Dal Santo, Ablett

6: Judd, Tredrea, Montagna,

5: Goddard, Higgins

4: Mitchell, Edwards, SJohnson, Jolly, Cross, PBurgoyne, Gilbee, Kerr, Pearce

3: Murphy, Vince, Johnstone, Harding, Fraser, Gibbs, Winderlich, BJohnson, ASelwood, Chapman, Adcock, Lloyd, Pendlebury, Waite, Harvey, Davey, Wirripanda

2: Ottens, Mcleod, Power, Mcintosh, Swan, Goodes, Fletcher, Lake, Drummond, Walker, Dew, Lockyer, RShaw, JMcVeigh, CCornes, JSelwood, Hale, Miller,

1: Wiggins, Le Cras, Gilbert, McDonald, Motlop, Giansiracusa, Koschitzke, Didak, Bradshaw, Mcphee, Watson, Haselby, Bateman, Richardson, Medhurst, Riewoldt, Bartel, LHansen, Bowden, Krakouer, Cox


Kidding of course. My Updated Progressive Votes.

 

[asanque]

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Leaked Brownlow Votes:

Round 4 Brownlow votes Running Total:

10: Dal Santo, Ablett

6: Judd, Tredrea, Montagna,

5: Goddard, Higgins

4: Mitchell, Edwards, SJohnson, Jolly, Cross, PBurgoyne, Gilbee, Kerr, Pearce

3: Murphy, Vince, Johnstone, Harding, Fraser, Gibbs, Winderlich, BJohnson, ASelwood, Chapman, Adcock, Lloyd, Mitchell, Pendlebury, Waite, Harvey, Davey, Wirripanda

2: Ottens, Mcleod, Power, Mcintosh, Swan, Goodes, Fletcher, Lake, Drummond, Walker, Dew, Lockyer, RShaw, JMcVeigh, CCornes, JSelwood, Hale, Miller,

1: Wiggins, Le Cras, Gilbert, McDonald, Motlop, Giansiracusa, Koschitzke, Didak, Bradshaw, Mcphee, Watson, Haselby, Bateman, Richardson, Medhurst, Riewoldt, Bartel, LHansen, Bowden, Krakouer, Cox


Kidding of course. My Updated Progressive Votes.

Looks good, but you have 2 Mitchells?

 

[Athomas]

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Looks good, but you have 2 Mitchells?

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Marklar_33]

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yeah sorry made a mistake there. It is

- Disposals x (100% - DIsposal Efficiency %) / 2

Thats the exact formula you originally posted (except the bizarrely misplaced capital I )

Disposal Efficiency
Disposals x (100% - Disposal Efficiency %) / 2

I think you should consider something with [Disposal Efficiency/100] in it somewhere... the value is up to you of course!

 

[Juddbemetron]

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Thats the exact formula you originally posted (except the bizarrely misplaced capital I )



I think you should consider something with [Disposal Efficiency/100] in it somewhere... the value is up to you of course!

i think there is a minus sign in front
whihc would mean it would benefit a player to have a higher disposal efficeincy

 

[lloydy_loinchop]

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yeh..its simpler if i say:
Contested Possession = .25 or 1/4
Inefficient Disposal = -1/3

 

[tarky]

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might as well hand it to gary now

 

[scooterselwood]

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Interested in what people have for haw v wce game.

 

[senrulzisback]

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14 Votes
Gary Ablett

8 Votes
Nick Dal Santo

7 Votes
Chris Judd
Nick Riewoldt

6 Votes
Leigh Montagna
Matthew Richardson
Sam Mitchell
Leon Davis
Brendon Goddard
Chad Cornes
Paul Haselby
Paul Chapman

5 Votes
Danyle Pearce
Jarrad McVeigh
Bryce Gibbs
Tarkyn Lockyer
Scott Pendlebury
Bernie Vince

4 Votes
Josh Fraser
Rhyce Shaw
Darren Jolly
Shaun Higgins
Warren Tredrea

3 Votes
Jack Riewoldt
Simon Goodwin
Kade Simpson
Simon Wiggins
Daniel Motlop
Luke Power
Leigh Harding
Lindsay Gilbee
Brian Lake
Jason Winderlich
Adam Selwood
Jed Adcock
Brent Harvey
David Wirrpunda
Daniel Kerr
Lenny Hayes
Patty Ryder
Gary Moss
Jonothan Brown
Jimmy Bartel
David Mundy
Travis Johnstone
Adam Goodes
Martin Mattner
Matthew Boyd
Jarryd Roughead

2 Votes
Daniel Jackson
Paul Duffield
Andrew Mcleod
Sam Gilbert
Brad Ottens
Troy Selwood
Joel Corey
James McDonald
Daniel Giansiracusa
Justin Koschitzke
Brad Johnson
Dustin Fletcher
Shaun Burgoyne
Steve Johnson
Josh Drummond
Ryan Crowley
Matthew Lloyd
Brady Rawlings
Travis Boak
Joel Selwood
David Hale
Hamish McIntosh
Joel Bowden
Matthew Pavlich
Steven Salopek
Scott Thompson
Brendon Fevola
Matt Priddis

1 Vote
Matt White
Shane O'Bree
Cameron Mooney
Peter Burgoyne
Mark LeCras
Alan Didak
Daniel Bradshaw
Alwyn Davey
Nathan G Brown
Taylor Walker
Courtenay Dempsey
Brendon Whitecross
Ted Richards
Nathan Foley
Paul Medhurst
Cameron Ling
Brent Moloney
Sam Fisher
Brad Sewell
Farren Ray

Updated for Round 4.
Davis could have easily got 2 this week, but gave them to Pendles.

 

[senrulzisback]

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Interested in what people have for haw v wce game.

3 - Moss
2 - Mitchell
1 - Pridddis

 

[Athomas]

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Done my votes for the weekend. My current total:

Round 5 Brownlow votes Running Total:


13: Ablett

10: Dal Santo

7: Mitchell

6: Judd, Tredrea, Montagna, Gibbs

5: Goddard, Higgins, Pendlebury

4: Edwards, SJohnson, Jolly, Cross, PBurgoyne, Gilbee, Kerr, Pearce, Bowden, Chapman, Vince

3: Murphy, Johnstone, Harding, Fraser, Winderlich, BJohnson, ASelwood, Adcock, Lloyd, Mitchell, Waite, Harvey, Davey, Wirripanda, Hayes, NRiewoldt, Ryder, Pavlich, Bartel, Goodwin

2: Ottens, Mcleod, Power, Mcintosh, Swan, Goodes, Fletcher, Lake, Drummond, Walker, Dew, Lockyer, RShaw, JMcVeigh, CCornes, JSelwood, Hale, Miller, Moss, Jackson, Mundy, KSimpson, Thompson

1: Wiggins, Le Cras, Gilbert, McDonald, Motlop, Giansiracusa, Koschitzke, Didak, Bradshaw, Mcphee, Watson, Haselby, Bateman, Richardson, Medhurst, LHansen, Krakouer, Cox, Fisher, Davis, Priddis, JRiewoldt, Sandilands, Kruezer

 

[gothedogs1]

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12 ablett

10 dal santo

6 judd

 

[banta]

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what did people get for melbourne vs adelaide (if anyone deserved actually deserved them) and kangaroos vs richmond. missed these matches so be good to see what people have.
also found it hard to give votes for the anzac day classic, quite a few good performances and a close game so, wondering whether anyone found it easier to give votes for that game.

 

[WildRover]

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for those giving Gaz 3 votes v Brisbane...i have a sneaking suspicion come brownlow night we might see 3 votes to A Mackie...