Updated Bruce Lehrmann Pt2 * Former Head of DPP Shane Drumgold is cleared of misconduct

[Kurve]

Here is PART 1

Historical Rape Allegation Against Fmr AG Christian Porter
The Alexander Matters matters

Just a reminder, this is the crime board and we need to be aware that there will be victims of crime either watching this thread or engaging in here from time to time. A degree of respect in all discussions is expected.

LINK TO TIMELINE
CJS INQUIRY
FINAL REPORT – BOARD OF INQUIRY – CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
Joint media statement – Chief Minister and Attorney-General



FIONA BROWN - AFFIDAVIT

 

[CM86]

We're talking about Kurve's choice of gifs now?

Must mean there's been some huge news that negatively impacts team Lehrmann.

 

[Underarrest_]

Because security found a naked, passed out drunk female in the Minister for Defence's office. Of course it was a potential crime scene to anybody with any common sense.

DPS and PSS went in on their day off, not to alert the AFP to this potential and ask advice but to order extra cleaning, not just once but twice.



LOL they missed Brittany Higgins by ten minutes.

On their way to PH after being notified there was ‘an incident’ and yet BH wasn’t (from any accounts we’ve seen) asked if she would like to stay in the building because people wanted to check on her welfare.

 

[FIGJAM]

You missed the point of it.

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I missed the point of you using a rape enabler's gif?

 

[FIGJAM]

Must mean there's been some huge news that negatively impacts team Lehrmann.

Team Lehrmann? The guy is a ****en rapist!

Have you not been paying attention?

The issue is that the claims that there was a political cover up never happened. Stop politicising this shit!

 

[CM86]

I missed the point of you using a rape enabler's gif?

Can you be clear of what you're actually accusing Kurve of here?

Because I feel that you're being pretty ****ing disgusting in your desperation to move the topic away from the findings on Drumgold.

 

[CM86]

On their way to PH after being notified there was ‘an incident’ and yet BH wasn’t (from any accounts we’ve seen) asked if she would like to stay in the building because people wanted to check on her welfare.

So many coincidents that don't have an answer.

At some point are we allowed to discuss the possibility of a cover up?
When can we consider the idea that endless mistakes, accidents, misunderstandings and coincidents that always help out one 'side', might actually have been deliberate or intentional?

 

[jason_recliner]

Can you be clear of what you're actually accusing Kurve of here?

Because I feel that you're being pretty ****ing disgusting in your desperation to move the topic away from the findings on Drumgold.

Nobody's desperate to "move the topic away from the findings on Drumgold".

The ACT Bar Council engaged solicitors to investigate sources of evidence that could be used in a disciplinary hearing against Drumgold (as Drumgold's previous evidence from the Sofronoff enquiry could not be used against him). The council assessed that disciplinary action would be unlikely to succeed based on that report. I haven't been able to find the Council's report in which they detail their reasons yet - probably have to be a member of the Bar - but will post if I find them later.

Most of Sofronoff's findings still stand (those that survived Drumgold's appeal).

Your view on whether the Bar Council decision not to discipline vindicates him probably depends entirely on whether you sit in the pro-Dumbgold/cover-up/conspiracy or pro-Lee/Sofronoff (you described as "pro-Lehrman") camp.

 

[FIGJAM]

Because I feel that you're being pretty ****ing disgusting in your desperation to move the topic away from the findings on Drumgold.

"...pretty ****ing disgusting"?

"Drumgold"

What are you even talking about?

Was FIGJAM your manager ?

That's very well played on the comic side of things!

 

[jason_recliner]

So many coincidents that don't have an answer.

At some point are we allowed to discuss the possibility of a cover up?
When can we consider the idea that endless mistakes, accidents, misunderstandings and coincidents that always help out one 'side', might actually have been deliberate or intentional?

You seem to be implying that nobody has suggested, let alone investigated, the possibility of a cover-up/conspiracy in the past 3-4 years. Or are you asking at what point can we ignore the evidence and judiciary findings, and start theorising about conspiracies again?

 

[Kurve]

You seem to be implying that nobody has suggested, let alone investigated, the possibility of a cover-up/conspiracy in the past 3-4 years. Or are you asking at what point can we ignore the evidence and judiciary findings, and start theorising about conspiracies again?

Given the head of DPS Stefanic has taken sudden leave after the NACC raided Parliament House on a warrant particular to that department, looking for anything to do with subs and Department of Defence and that the assistant NACC Commissioner has stood in, it may not have been investigated thoroughly enough on the information they had at the time.

The same Stefanic who hand delivered the DPS Report detailing the Lehrmann/Higgins incident.

This is not a conspiracy.

 

[jason_recliner]

Given the head of DPS Stefanic has taken sudden leave after the NACC raided Parliament House on a warrant particular to that department, looking for anything to do with subs and Department of Defence and that the assistant NACC Commissioner has stood in, it may not have been investigated thoroughly enough on the information they had at the time.

The same Stefanic who hand delivered the DPS Report detailing the Lehrmann/Higgins incident.

This is not a conspiracy.

Yes, you could be on to something, or they could be looking for information pertaining to submarines. Or maybe his alleged relationship with his former deputy, and her unusual early retirement incentive payout, is under scrutiny again.

 

[Festerz]

That Drumgold has been cleared is pretty big news, where's the media on it? Surely they're not going to ignore it.

The Australian did post an article on the finding in a small article at the bottom of page 7 in today's paper (contrast that to the multi page full headline posts of Albrechtsen parrotting the disgraced Sofronoff ) but the wording of that article is hilarious in its attempt to suggest that some doubt over Drumgold's innocence remains - there isn't.



Other media organisations have also reported on the story, including the independent Canberra Times (which has been closely monitoring the disaster that was the Sofronoff Inquiry) but in a far more balanced manner correctly stating:

“The ACT Bar Association has found there is no evidence to support a finding that former ACT Director of Prosecutions Shane Drumgold engaged in either professional misconduct or unsatisfactory professional conduct in relation to any conduct surrounding the prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann”

ABC and The Guardian reports linked below:

Complaints about the conduct of former ACT top prosecutor Shane Drumgold during Bruce Lehrmann trial dismissed

The ACT Bar Council dismisses 10 complaints made about former ACT director of public prosecutions Shane Drumgold during his prosecution of former Liberal staffer Bruce Lehrmann over the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins.

www.abc.net.au

ACT Bar Association dismiss misconduct accusations against Lehrmann trial prosecutor Shane Drumgold

Drumgold says he has ‘always maintained that [his] conduct has been proper and appropriate’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Kurve]

The Australian did post an article on the finding in a small article at the bottom of page 7 in today's paper (contrast that to the multi page full headline posts of Albrechtsen parrotting the disgraced Sofronoff ) but the wording of that article is hilarious in its attempt to suggest that some doubt over Drumgold's innocence remains - there isn't.

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Other media organisations have also reported on the story, including the independent Canberra Times (which has been closely monitoring the disaster that was the Sofronoff Inquiry) but in a far more balanced manner correctly stating:

“The ACT Bar Association has found there is no evidence to support a finding that former ACT Director of Prosecutions Shane Drumgold engaged in either professional misconduct or unsatisfactory professional conduct in relation to any conduct surrounding the prosecution of Bruce Lehrmann”

ABC and The Guardian reports linked below:

Complaints about the conduct of former ACT top prosecutor Shane Drumgold during Bruce Lehrmann trial dismissed

The ACT Bar Council dismisses 10 complaints made about former ACT director of public prosecutions Shane Drumgold during his prosecution of former Liberal staffer Bruce Lehrmann over the alleged rape of Brittany Higgins.

www.abc.net.au

ACT Bar Association dismiss misconduct accusations against Lehrmann trial prosecutor Shane Drumgold

Drumgold says he has ‘always maintained that [his] conduct has been proper and appropriate’

www.theguardian.com

LOL We did wonder last week if we'd get news that Janet Albrechtsen might have wanted to make herself scarce over. Bear country and Canada is far enough.

 

[Festerz]

LOL We did wonder last week if we'd get news that Janet Albrechtsen might have wanted to make herself scarce over. Bear country and Canada is far enough.

Gone into hibernation, like the bears? Speaking of Bears...

Grazer is third female winner of Fat Bear Week

Grazer, the third female winner of Fat Bear Week, has two litters of cubs and beat the larger Chunk in the final.

www.bbc.com

Anyway, I'm sure she'll be back on her favourite topic when the Reynolds defamation decision is handed down later this year.

 

[Festerz]

LOL. No prizes for guessing which poster in this thread will be lining up for a first edition copy...

(Lee J. says he has no association with the book btw and why you would pay $37 for a judgement that is accessible on line for free is beyond me - perhaps to impress friends and to fact check those who selectively quote excerpts of the judgement out of context?)

He went back for his hat, Justice Michael Lee

'Having escaped the lions' den, Mr Lehrmann made the mistake of going back for his hat.' Justice Michael Lee with an introduction by Chanel Contos On 15 April 2024 Justice Michael Lee delivered his judgment in Lehrmann v Network 10. The case, which centred on proceedings brought by Bruce...

www.mup.com.au

 

[jason_recliner]

"Shane Drumgold is cleared of misconduct"

 

[Kurve]

"Shane Drumgold is cleared of misconduct"

It's hard to accept ...

 

[jason_recliner]

It's hard to accept ...

 

[CM86]

You seem to be implying that nobody has suggested, let alone investigated, the possibility of a cover-up/conspiracy in the past 3-4 years. Or are you asking at what point can we ignore the evidence and judiciary findings, and start theorising about conspiracies again?

So no, we're still not allowed to discuss the possibility of a cover up.

Did you read the Philip Gaetjens report yet?
I know you haven't, so can you explain why you haven't read it?

 

[CM86]

"Shane Drumgold is cleared of misconduct"

 

[CM86]

Team Lehrmann

Gross but honest.

Drumgold

Shane Drumgold.

Shane Drumgold - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He was the prosecutor in the Lehrmann rape case.

What are you even talking

This doesn't make any sense.

Have you not been paying

Paying for what?


This is ridiculous.