Buddy's developing place on the All-Time Ladder

[Linda Crescent]

Total Goals>Total Games>Name>Club

269, 145 Jarryd Roughead (HAW)

Presently 12th HFC all-time behind Ben Dixon (282) and the top 10.

 

[WWSD]

Total Goals>Total Games>Name>Club

269, 145 Jarryd Roughead (HAW)

Presently 12th HFC all-time behind Ben Dixon (282) and the top 10.

Thanks for the info Linda Crescent.

 

[hawkstars]

Total Goals>Total Games>Name>Club

269, 145 Jarryd Roughead (HAW)

Presently 12th HFC all-time behind Ben Dixon (282) and the top 10.

Hopefully the 300 milestone comes up soon. Go rough!

 

[Axle17]

I've just realised...Brendon Fevola kicked 623 in 204 games! Who knows what he could have kicked if he was a 300 gamer..

Edit: Where would Buddy end up once he retires?

 

[Paul Kersey]

Hopefully 900+

 

[Milang_Panthers]

How long does everyone think he can play for?

 

[Mitchell Madness]

How long does everyone think he can play for?

Interesting one

He realistically could play past 300 (given where he sits now) but, tall bodies don't tend to hold up as they age

 

[hawkman]

Interesting one

He realistically could play past 300 (given where he sits now) but, tall bodies don't tend to hold up as they age

He is more of a Goodes type athlete though and at 32 this is his first injury interupted year

 

[buddylg]

I hope he ends up with more goals than Matthew Lloyd.

When was the last time a player kicked 10+ goals in a game, TWICE in one season? That would be a great feat for Buddy to achieve. Unlikely, but would be awesome

 

[Agent Smith]

I hope he ends up with more goals than Matthew Lloyd.

When was the last time a player kicked 10+ goals in a game, TWICE in one season? That would be a great feat for Buddy to achieve. Unlikely, but would be awesome

I'd say there'd be a great opportunity in the coming weeks for him to aim for another batch of 10. He just has to kick straight...

Oh, okay.

 

[Ugottabjokin]

You Got To Be Joking. I try to get it right week in week out re ^.

Corrected, thanks. Linda.

Doing a great job and love this thread. Read it most weeks to see where he is at.

I'm a bit of a numbers man myself so like to see the right info.

 

[PNess]

54. 485, 152 Lance Franklin (HAW)

- 2012: games played 10/10, average score 3.4, season total 34.40
- 5.3, 2.4, 3.2, 1.7, 0.3, 5.6, 3.6, 1.2, 1.3, 13.4,

- 2011: games 19, average 3.7, total 71.54 (+11.7 in 3 finals, total 82.61)
- 2010: games 17, average 3.6, total 62.42 (+2.0 in 1 final, total 64.42)
- 2009: games 21, average 3.1, total 67.46
- 2008: games 22, average 4.6, total 102.84 (+11.04 in 3 finals, total 113.88) Premiers.
- 2007: games 20, average 3.1, total 63.57 (+10.05 in 2 finals, total 73.62)
- 2006: games 14, average 2.2, total 31.09
- 2005: games 20, average 1.7, total 21.13

40 behinds already! That's terrible even by Bud's standards!

Can't believe he kicked 31.9 in 2006.

Take the good with the bad when it comes to Buddy

 

[Necromancer Beth]

I hope he ends up with more goals than Matthew Lloyd.

Despite Franklin playing higher up the ground, he should still kick just as many, if not more goals than Lloyd in a time where it's harder to kick goals. Franklin is already universally regarded as a better player than Lloyd ( apart from a couple of Essendon dribblers like Call me Cake, Kong and jade_00 ) and he is only half way through his career. Franklin is going to end up with more All Australians & more Coleman medals than Lloyd. He has better defensive pressure than Lloyd, tackles more than Lloyd, he is also a better athlete and is more versatile. And Buddy has a much better record in big finals games than Lloyd.

 

[india_hawk]

Sorted by average goals per game over career span. Isn't it strange Buddy's currently # 23 on this list??

No. Goals Games Name Teams avg goals per game
1 727 129 Peter Hudson (HAW) 5.636
2 537 98 John Coleman (ESS) 5.480
3 1360 281 Tony Lockett (St.K,SYD) 4.840
4 1254 269 Jason Dunstall (HAW) 4.662
5 874 191 Peter McKenna (COLL,CARL) 4.576
6 681 158 Bob Pratt (Sth.M) 4.310
7 1299 306 Gordon Coventry (COLL) 4.245
8 662 157 Jack Moriarty (ESS,FITZ) 4.217
9 1030 248 Gary Ablett (HAW,GEEL) 4.153
10 1057 267 Doug Wade (GEEL,Nth.M) 3.959
11 411 104 Fred Fanning (MEL) 3.952
12 461 121 Sel Murray (Nth.M,RICH) 3.810
13 540 142 Lindsay White (GEEL,Sth.M) 3.803
14 735 195 Bill Mohr (St.K) 3.769
15 527 140 Brian Taylor (RICH,COLL) 3.764
16 575 154 Simon Beasley (FOOT,W.B) 3.734
17 588 165 Tony Modra (ADEL,FREM) 3.564
18 722 204 Harry Vallence (CARL) 3.539
19 926 270 Matthew Lloyd (ESS) 3.430
20 514 150 Peter Sumich (W.C) 3.427
21 593 177 Kelvin Templeton (FOOT,MELB) 3.350
22 970 294 Jack Titus (RICH) 3.299
23 485 152 Lance Franklin (HAW) 3.191
24 388 124 Warwick Capper (SYD,B.B) 3.129
25 475 153 Jock Spencer (Nth.M) 3.105
26 707 230 Dick Lee (COLL) 3.074
27 623 204 Brendan Fevola (CARL,B.L) 3.054
28 607 200 Michael Roach (RICH) 3.035
29 372 124 Ted Freyer (ESS) 3.000
30 738 251 Stephen Kernahan (CARL) 2.940
31 748 257 Saverio Rocca (COLL,Nth.M) 2.911
32 800 282 Matthew Richardson (RICH) 2.837
33 385 136 Ted Johnson (Sth.M) 2.831
34 629 224 Michael Moncrieff (HAW) 2.808
35 548 196 Dick Harris (RICH) 2.796
36 915 332 Leigh Matthews (HAW) 2.756
37 396 147 Horrie Clover (CARL) 2.694
38 727 272 Wayne Carey (Nth.M,ADEL) 2.673
39 817 306 Bernie Quinlan (FOOT,FITZ) 2.670
40 400 153 Cliff Rankin (GEEL) 2.614
41 746 289 Barry Hall (St.K,SYD,WB) 2.581
42 511 200 John Longmire (Nth.M) 2.555
43 442 174 Jimmy Freake (FITZ) 2.540
44 475 187 Keith Forbes (ESS,Nth.M,FITZ) 2.540
45 572 227 Norm Smith (MEL,FITZ) 2.520
46 459 183 Albert Pannam (COLL,RICH) 2.508
47 385 154 Jack Collins (FOOT) 2.500
48 444 178 Malcolm Blight (Nth.M) 2.494
49 513 217 Jonathan Brown (B.L) 2.364
50 389 170 Alec Albiston (HAW,Nth.M) 2.288

 

[india_hawk]

No. Goals Games Name Teams avg goals per game
51 524 231 Daniel Bradshaw (B.B,B.L,SYD) 2.268
52 434 192 Alan Noonan (ESS,RICH) 2.260
53 389 174 Lloyd Hagger (GEEL) 2.236
54 475 213 John Peck (HAW) 2.230
55 441 198 Bill Brownless (GEEL) 2.227
56 464 211 Dermott Brereton (HAW,SYD,COLL) 2.199
57 549 250 Peter Daicos (COLL) 2.196
58 497 228 Nick Riewoldt (St.K) 2.180
59 389 179 Phillip Matera (W.C) 2.173
60 549 255 Warren Tredrea (P.A) 2.153
61 549 260 Fraser Gehrig (W.C,St.K) 2.112
62 510 246 Stephen Milne (St.K) 2.073
63 633 306 Alastair Lynch (FITZ,B.B,B.L) 2.069
64 631 306 David Neitz (MELB) 2.062
65 574 283 Richard Osborne (FITZ,SYD,W.B,COLL) 2.028
66 442 222 Alan Ruthven (FITZ) 1.991
67 479 245 Paul Hudson (HAW,W.B,RICH) 1.955
68 483 249 Jeff Farmer (MEL,FREM) 1.940
69 778 403 Kevin Bartlett (RICH) 1.931
70 500 265 Matthew Pavlich (FREM) 1.887
71 426 226 Garry Lyon (MEL) 1.885
72 395 210 Mick Conlan (FITZ) 1.881
73 428 228 Russell Robertson (MEL) 1.877
74 594 321 Stewart Loewe (St.K) 1.850
75 378 216 Jack Mueller (MEL) 1.750
76 471 270 Scott Lucas (ESS) 1.744
77 412 237 Bob Skilton (Sth.M) 1.738
78 397 229 Tony Morwood (SYD) 1.734
79 561 324 Paul Salmon (ESS,HAW) 1.731
80 521 303 Michael O'Loughlin (SYD) 1.719
81 415 242 Anthony Rocca (SYD,COLL) 1.715
82 444 259 Robert Walls (CARL,FITZ) 1.714
83 372 217 Allan Davis (St.K,MEL,ESS,COLL) 1.714
84 496 290 Bill Hutchison (ESS) 1.710
85 423 250 Lou Richards (COLL) 1.692
86 452 268 Garry Wilson (FITZ) 1.687
87 386 230 Darren Jarman (HAW,ADEL) 1.678
88 554 341 Chris Grant (W.B) 1.625
89 444 279 Alex Jesaulenko (CARL,St.K) 1.591
90 370 236 Rodney Ashman (CARL) 1.568
91 558 364 Brad Johnson (W.B) 1.533
92 575 378 Simon Madden (ESS) 1.521
93 374 246 John Murphy (FITZ,SYD,Nth.M) 1.520
94 469 313 Terry Daniher (Sth.M,ESS) 1.498
95 443 312 Jack Dyer (RICH) 1.420
96 433 313 Roger Merrett (ESS,B.B) 1.383
97 442 320 Dick Reynolds (ESS) 1.381
98 383 291 Peter Everitt (St.K,HAW,SYD) 1.316
99 421 325 Jason Akermanis (B.B,B.L,W.B) 1.295
100 375 323 Brent Harvey (Nth.M) 1.161

 

[AC for PM]

Article in today's HS talking about Buddy's chances of reaching 1000 goals in his career.

If he keeps up his goals per game average of 3.7 (since 2007) he is likely to achieve 1000 goals after around 290 games or so, and provided he stays injury free will be around 31-32 years of age.

 

[Linda Crescent]

Despite Franklin playing higher up the ground, he should still kick just as many, if not more goals than Lloyd in a time where it's harder to kick goals. Franklin is already universally regarded as a better player than Lloyd ( apart from a couple of Essendon dribblers like Call me Cake, Kong and jade_00 ) and he is only half way through his career. Franklin is going to end up with more All Australians & more Coleman medals than Lloyd. He has better defensive pressure than Lloyd, tackles more than Lloyd, he is also a better athlete and is more versatile. And Buddy has a much better record in big finals games than Lloyd.

^ Well put, all going well he'll get 700+, that's many pleasurable years away. Buddy

 

[Linda Crescent]

53. 496, 290 Bill Hutchison (ESS)

Bill Hutchison played in the VFL from 1942–1957.
He captained Essendon for seven years, from 1951 to 1957.
Bill played as a rover and won Premierships in 1942, 1946, 1949 and 1950 and consecutive Brownlow Medals in 1952 and 1953.

An Essendon Legend.

 

[butchy]

everytime i come to this thread i still cant believe the figures at number 17 and 43. must have been an amazing players!!
would have been awesome if knee recos were the norm all those years ago and both coleman and hudson actually played full careers.
their numbers would have been unbelievable!!

 

[Paul Kersey]

Yes, it's incredible.

 

[MinerBoy]

49. 513, 217 Jonathan Brown (B.L)
50. 512, 247 Stephen Milne (St.K)
51. 506, 266 Matthew Pavlich (FREM)
52. 504, 229 Nick Riewoldt (St.K)
53. 496, 290 Bill Hutchison (ESS)
54. 489, 153 Lance Franklin (HAW)

Be great for us if he could be on top of this list by the end of the season.

 

[MinerBoy]

Well one would certainly go a long way to making the other a reality.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Really needs another big bag if he is going to get up with the other current players.

12 against Carlton is two weeks time would be a start.

 

[spudmaster]

Really needs another big bag if he is going to get up with the other current players.

12 against Carlton is two weeks time would be a start.

Now now, don't get greedy CLA
Would love him to kick his 500th against the same team he scored his 100th in a season against though. Give them something additional to remember him by

 

[Ron The Bear]

Rank for goals against each club among current players:

Op Gs Rank     Leader
------------------------------
Ad 33  3rd(eq) Milne (40)
Br 36  1st(eq) N.Riewoldt (36)
Ca 23  8th(eq) Brown (52)
Co 42  1st
Es 42  1st(eq) Brown (42)
Fr 18 14th     Milne (37)
Ge 37  2nd(eq) Brown (46)
GC  3 42nd(eq) Johnson (13)
GWS -          Merrett (7)
Ha  -          Brown (40)
Me 29  3rd(eq) N.Riewoldt (40)
NM 44  2nd     Brown (52)
PA 36  3rd     Brown (42)
Ri 32  4th     N.Riewoldt (39)
St 27  4th     Pavlich (43)
Sy 34  1st
WC 25  6th(eq) Pavlich (42)
WB 33  2nd     N.Riewoldt (40)

Would take even money about Franklin being the leading scorer against every opposition club within a few years.