Burgoyne to Hawthorn Thread part 2

[xellis]

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I find it hard to understand how Burgoyne is worth more than pick 9, when there is no other club willing to do a superior trade to Port.

Why would the Hawks pay over the odds and offer up a player, unless that player has been penciled in to be de-listed at the end of the month?

We still need a replacement for Campbell imho.

I agree with this, we are getting bent over here. Pick 9 and a fringe player. We should just move on if they don't want this or get Bourgyne to nominate for the ND

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

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But what he's 'worth on reality' doesn't really take anything into factor right now.

The reality is, the Hawks were willing to offer #9 and Brown. I'm thinking that no deal will be done, but who knows.

 

[Neville Bartos]

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But what he's 'worth on reality' doesn't really take anything into factor right now.

The reality is, the Hawks were willing to offer #9 and Brown. I'm thinking that no deal will be done, but who knows.

reality is something that hasn't existed at Alberton for a long time.

Port asked for Brown, Brown said no and the only official statement so far has come from Hawthorn FC. I'll take their word over that ugly South Australian douche-bag Rucci

 

[Brownie_30]

Re: Burgoyne WILL be a Hawk, guaranteed!

But what he's 'worth on reality' doesn't really take anything into factor right now.

The reality is, the Hawks were willing to offer #9 and Brown. I'm thinking that no deal will be done, but who knows.

The reality is that port now know any player they may have wanted from Hawthorn will not go there, thus they will accept 9 + 16.

 

[Dragz]

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He said Port will be targetting 2 first round draft picks now.

Over-rate Burgoyne much? As Chocco has said, premiership player and AA player. Well, Brown is that and more recently AND without the knee issue. But I wouldn't ask 2 first round picks for him.

lmao at port. 1st round pick and that's it imo now. Otherwise Burgoyne can walk to the Draft. If we get him, great. if not, we get another kid. Suits me fine.

 

[Steven Tyler]

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The reality is that port now know any player they may have wanted from Hawthorn will not go there, thus they will accept 9 + 16.

What Port know for sure now is they wont get a player THEY want from us. This has been confirmed now as Rhode has confirmed on 5AA today that they will load up on draft picks, and a third team may have to be involved to get that pick. But as Ess have offered Willo a 3 year deal, maybe we could use the pick we get [depends what it is] to get the Burgoyne deal done!

 

[OneEyedHawk]

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I doubt that.

U guys dont have a 2nd... and **** me @ homerism if you think Kennedy is worth a 2nd.

lol, says the bloke who's club wants TWO 1st-Rounders for Burgoyne. That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Ever.

And I think Port would rather just shove the deal instead of accepting that.

So would I. Port can shove their demands where it fits IMO.

I find it hard to understand how Burgoyne is worth more than pick 9, when there is no other club willing to do a superior trade to Port.

He's not worth more than pick 9. You could mount a very strong argument that he's only just worth that.

This deal is pissing me off more by the day. This whole thing has the potential to fracture our playing list and club like no other. Paying WAY over the odds for a 27yo with a dodgy knee and a history of not performing to his potential, paying him big dollars when we ask everyone else to take significant cuts 'for the team', contemplating discarding much-loved hero's of the club...this whole thing stinks. Walk away now I say.

 

[FishingRick04]

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What Port know for sure now is they wont get a player THEY want from us. This has been confirmed now as Rhode has confirmed on 5AA today that they will load up on draft picks, and a third team may have to be involved to get that pick. But as Ess have offered Willo a 3 year deal, maybe we could use the pick we get [depends what it is] to get the Burgoyne deal done!

Hey guys.

Like alot of you, I wish to be over.

I would take 9 and 16 or 9 and Brown, I may overrate Shaun but I have seen him closely and he's my favourite player. His skills are sublime and 20 of his possies are 30 to most, he struggles hard with a tag but our recent team doesn't provide much support either. With you guys he will be a star and it won't take long for you guys to appreciate how good he is. I would rather keep him, dicky knee and all.

But 9 and 16 would be ok I guess, it gives us scope to try improve our first round pick none the less.

Hopefully it's all sorted shortly.

 

[halfback dasher]

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I doubt that.

U guys dont have a 2nd... and **** me @ homerism if you think Kennedy is worth a 2nd.

And I think Port would rather just shove the deal instead of accepting that.

Why don't you pi## off ...we dont need any crap from port supporters over hear ...we have enough carnage over hear created by your shit club and its poor culture..oh and im sure being the Swans got pik 28 for Aamon someone ,they will give to get Joey..

 

[PortBrillance]

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Lets get something right here. We (Port) are pricks, we would rather stick it up you guys then fold and trade on your terms.(Which something I'm glad of) If your mark williams goes to essendon for pick 16, then 9 + 16 port will demand at the very minimum.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

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I don't think the hawks have even started the screwage yet.

Won't surprise me if we get away with this by paying just pick nine.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

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Lets get something right here. We (Port) are pricks, we would rather stick it up you guys then fold and trade on your terms.(Which something I'm glad of) If your mark williams goes to essendon for pick 16, then 9 + 16 port will demand at the very minimum.

Fair enough - you guys are pricks.

Not that I'm condoning it - but I think we'll stall until you're backed into the corner of dealing with us or nothing (due to not having enough time to work up trades).

 

[eathb]

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I think fans of both clubs can agree that shelving the deal is the best way to go.

 

[Jaeger]

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Choco and that Rhode are a bunch of trouble makers i don't like dealing with them

 

[PortBrillance]

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Fair enough - you guys are pricks.

Not that I'm condoning it -but I think we'll stall until you're backed into the corner of dealing with us or nothing (due to not having enough time to work up trades).

I hightly doubt we would trade SB unless we are calling the shots. (i.e, we wont be backed into anything) It will be the Nick Stevens of 03 all over again, The club wont grant SB wishes to move to hawks if we dont get it our way. Im not saying thats a good or bad thing, thats just a fact.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

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I think fans of both clubs can agree that shelving the deal is the best way to go.

Looks like we're working on a trade with (our) mark williams with Essendon.

If we can get a decent pick we can still shop for a ruckman irrespective of the Burgoyne deal. That is, we don't really care if we drag this out all week.

Best result for the hawks is pick 9 only - why would we shelve that?

 

[Roddy27]

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Fair enough - you guys are pricks.

Not that I'm condoning it - but I think we'll stall until you're backed into the corner of dealing with us or nothing (due to not having enough time to work up trades).

Hey LP i completely condone it ... if they are willing to admit publicly that they are pricks and would love to stuff it up us and demand as a minimum two first round draft picks- them stuff 'em! Back them into a corner, who cares? According to their supporters they wouldnt care anyway because even if they do get backed into a corner and come away with Nothing for burgoyne- well thats a win for them- right? They've managed to stuff it up us and everyone else under the guise of 'integrity'- so somehow thats a win? No matter what happens they win??? its like petulent kid in the play ground who cant handle losing having a cry and making up a dozen excuses as to why he lost... Screw it--- Pelican- hold out till friday and see what happens mate...

 

[Leather Poisoning]

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I hightly doubt we would trade SB unless we are calling the shots. (i.e, we wont be backed into anything) It will be the Nick Stevens of 03 all over again, The club wont grant SB wishes to move to hawks if we dont get it our way. Im not saying thats a good or bad thing, thats just a fact.

I think you're running out of options unless Essendon want to trade away picks 10 and 16.

 

[eathb]

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If you are going to lose anyway...

Why lose alone? Why not take someone with you...

 

[Furn]

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I'm at the point now where i'm just happy to see Port get nothing for him. I dont care if we get him or not.

 

[The_Air_Up_There]

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If you are going to lose anyway...

Why lose alone? Why not take someone with you...

Because you're not losing by taking pick 9 and a fringe...

Port are an angry ex girlfriend!

 

[Scream]

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Losing is not getting anything for a player leaving.. only you can do that.

what we are offering up is pick 9 and a player like McGlynn.. perfectly solid trade to all but Port Adelaide. You will be the loser out of this... again..

 

[PortBrillance]

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If you are going to lose anyway...

Why lose alone? Why not take someone with you...

hahaha love this attitude It's why I love our club.

LP - I'm sure the club would take either 10 & 16, or 9 & 16 from you guys, who wouldnt. As I said, If MW goes to essendon for 16, we have a deal.

 

[eathb]

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Losing is not getting anything for a player leaving.. only you can do that.

what we are offering up is pick 9 and a player like McGlynn.. perfectly solid trade to all but Port Adelaide. You will be the loser out of this... again..

If you were refering to Nick Stevens, how would you feel if Jordan Lewis (out of contract) wanted out to a premiership contender such as Geelong, and the only thing they were offering is a 2nd round draft pick?

A huge slap in the face yeah?

 

[Jaeger]

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I hate dealing with PA. Any other team and a straight swap for pick 9 would have been done already. I just want to move on, get SB and look for a ruckman.