Re: Burgoyne WILL be a Hawk, guaranteed!
Well yeah I did.
He was in 5AA and confirmed everything Rohde said.
Well yeah I did.
He was in 5AA and confirmed everything Rohde said.
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Burgoyne to Hawthorn Thread part 2
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grizzlym
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Honestly, not trolling you here, but what do you make of it?
It's either incompetence on Hawthorn's behalf or part of the overall strategy.
Either suggestion seems equally implausible.
What possible explanation can you think of, 'cause I'm a little stumped.
Honestly, not trolling you here, but what do you make of it?
It's either incompetence on Hawthorn's behalf or part of the overall strategy.
Either suggestion seems equally implausible.
What possible explanation can you think of, 'cause I'm a little stumped.
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Will someone wake me up when this nightmare is over!!
What exactly did Mal say?
Will someone wake me up when this nightmare is over!!
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port to do a deal on friday i reckon. friday arvo - last minute. taking the best offer we have for them. the hawks and burgoyne have port in a corner, like it or not.
they say you cant lose what you havent got. we dont have burgoyne yet. so we wont/cant lose him.
so, send him to us and we can give you either the best offer of a player with pick 9. or you can take a draft pick along with 9. and it wont be a first rounder. most likely second rounder. or you can just take pick 9.
the swans already offered a 3rd rounder for kennedy and was knocked back. sydney are very keen to get him so they might deal a 2nd rounder (pick 28) now they have 2 first rounders.
pick 9 & 28 for burgoyne, or
pick 9 and thorp/moss/tuck/kennedy/mcglynn for burgoyne or
ZIP, NIL, NOTHING, 0
and we lose nothing and possibly get him in the ND for nothing.
looking good for us hawks fans
port to do a deal on friday i reckon. friday arvo - last minute. taking the best offer we have for them. the hawks and burgoyne have port in a corner, like it or not.
they say you cant lose what you havent got. we dont have burgoyne yet. so we wont/cant lose him.
so, send him to us and we can give you either the best offer of a player with pick 9. or you can take a draft pick along with 9. and it wont be a first rounder. most likely second rounder. or you can just take pick 9.
the swans already offered a 3rd rounder for kennedy and was knocked back. sydney are very keen to get him so they might deal a 2nd rounder (pick 28) now they have 2 first rounders.
pick 9 & 28 for burgoyne, or
pick 9 and thorp/moss/tuck/kennedy/mcglynn for burgoyne or
ZIP, NIL, NOTHING, 0
and we lose nothing and possibly get him in the ND for nothing.
looking good for us hawks fans
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Brad Hardie was saying on 6PR tonight, that if Pelchen does not get Burgoyne to Hawthorn, he will be sacked.
Mind you Brad does go over board with his emotions sometimes.
Brad Hardie was saying on 6PR tonight, that if Pelchen does not get Burgoyne to Hawthorn, he will be sacked.
Mind you Brad does go over board with his emotions sometimes.
grizzlym
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The best offer last minute on Friday afternoon will be pick 9 and a warm stubby of light.
The best offer last minute on Friday afternoon will be pick 9 and a warm stubby of light.
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Apparently Mal Brown told 5AA that Browny was offered up for trade, but he did not want to go to PA..Parents should stay out of this debacle, I am sure Browny is a big boy now, that can handle himself. Before Mal opened his trap and said that,he should have checked with his son first, because his son said he was NOT offered up for trade,should get their stories straightbefore sprouting to the media! They both look like fools now.One said he knew, and the other said he didn't!!
He also said his contract runs out next year, and
he said that he is a man who shakes a hand and honours a deal that he makes. He believes Campbell is like that and would only think about moving once his contract has been completed..
How will people react next year if he wants to go to the GC, or somewhere else, and we don't offer him another contract,are theygoing to tear up their memberships again??
One is just left wondering!!
Apparently Mal Brown told 5AA that Browny was offered up for trade, but he did not want to go to PA..Parents should stay out of this debacle, I am sure Browny is a big boy now, that can handle himself. Before Mal opened his trap and said that,he should have checked with his son first, because his son said he was NOT offered up for trade,should get their stories straightbefore sprouting to the media! They both look like fools now.One said he knew, and the other said he didn't!!
He also said his contract runs out next year, and
he said that he is a man who shakes a hand and honours a deal that he makes. He believes Campbell is like that and would only think about moving once his contract has been completed..
How will people react next year if he wants to go to the GC, or somewhere else, and we don't offer him another contract,are theygoing to tear up their memberships again??
One is just left wondering!!
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Hawthorn DO have something to lose. Their credibility - if the events of today haven't already ruined that. You guys have been in Burgoynes ear for a while. he nominates Hawthorn, and then goes to ground refusing to contemplate another club. But hawthorn cannot get the deal done. worse, they demonstrate to burgoyne that his commitment to get to them is not necessarily matched by the same steel to do what it takes to get him over. you won't trade a premiership player to get a premiership player? sorry shaun, off you go to melbourne. sorry for the inconvenience.
on top of that, a favourite son is incensed that he's even been approached by port. however you want to paint it, Brown was left out on a limb whether intentionally or not. Port left that meeting under the impression that hawthorn would be willing to part with Brown. And acted accordingly. His father rang kevin bartlett during the morning to confirm his sons fury. Kennett is forced to get on the airways and make statements that on face value, have tied the football departments hands (though if you read his words carefully, he can claim a couple of escape clauses). Williams is a premiership player, but he's most certainly being shopped around. is he exempt from el-presidente's edict?
today was not hawthorns finest hour. if you leave Burgoyne hanging with his arse in the breeze, an already gloomy opinion of hawthorn and it's methods will be solidified across the competition. Not that i care.
Hawthorn DO have something to lose. Their credibility - if the events of today haven't already ruined that. You guys have been in Burgoynes ear for a while. he nominates Hawthorn, and then goes to ground refusing to contemplate another club. But hawthorn cannot get the deal done. worse, they demonstrate to burgoyne that his commitment to get to them is not necessarily matched by the same steel to do what it takes to get him over. you won't trade a premiership player to get a premiership player? sorry shaun, off you go to melbourne. sorry for the inconvenience.
on top of that, a favourite son is incensed that he's even been approached by port. however you want to paint it, Brown was left out on a limb whether intentionally or not. Port left that meeting under the impression that hawthorn would be willing to part with Brown. And acted accordingly. His father rang kevin bartlett during the morning to confirm his sons fury. Kennett is forced to get on the airways and make statements that on face value, have tied the football departments hands (though if you read his words carefully, he can claim a couple of escape clauses). Williams is a premiership player, but he's most certainly being shopped around. is he exempt from el-presidente's edict?
today was not hawthorns finest hour. if you leave Burgoyne hanging with his arse in the breeze, an already gloomy opinion of hawthorn and it's methods will be solidified across the competition. Not that i care.
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That's why I don't understand why we are pursuing this so hard. He's pick 9 and no more for mine.
That's why I don't understand why we are pursuing this so hard. He's pick 9 and no more for mine.
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I think Burgoyne will show all Hawk fans will we are pursuing him so hard next season
Freakshow who dominates back, middle or forward.
I think Burgoyne will show all Hawk fans will we are pursuing him so hard next season
Freakshow who dominates back, middle or forward.
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And no doubt Hardie was told this by Jeff himself I s'pse? What utter crap by another useless big mouth.. How in the hell would he know that? Oh, I know, Pelchen rang him and gave him the information.. No doubt this was the conversation.CP.".Brad, oh Brad, I am going to be fired if I don't get this deal with Burgoyne through!!" What an utter tish stirrer that man is...Believe half of what he says, and the other half is all lies and rumours.He thrives on it.His favourite pastime is stirring up trouble for other clubs..
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Based on other trades from THIS YEAR, I think he is worth pick 9 + one of a late 2nd rounder/early 3rd rounder/fringe player (i.e. McGlynn, Morton, etc). However, I must say that I definitely do NOT buy into this "he has only had 30 plus possessions x amount of times, therefore he isnt worth that much, etc etc"!
People, we out of all clubs should realise that the number of possessions means almost absolutely nothing - its the quality of the possessions that is key!
Why should we know? Simple - Cyril Rioli!
We are always going on about how 15 possessions from Cyril equate to 30 possessions from Palmer because Cyril always produces magic with the bare minimum of fuss! Well, the same applies to Burgoyne...he is a gem, and we all know it...lets not start making up false remarks about his lack of possessions devaluaing his worth!
Based on other trades from THIS YEAR, I think he is worth pick 9 + one of a late 2nd rounder/early 3rd rounder/fringe player (i.e. McGlynn, Morton, etc). However, I must say that I definitely do NOT buy into this "he has only had 30 plus possessions x amount of times, therefore he isnt worth that much, etc etc"!
People, we out of all clubs should realise that the number of possessions means almost absolutely nothing - its the quality of the possessions that is key!
Why should we know? Simple - Cyril Rioli!
We are always going on about how 15 possessions from Cyril equate to 30 possessions from Palmer because Cyril always produces magic with the bare minimum of fuss! Well, the same applies to Burgoyne...he is a gem, and we all know it...lets not start making up false remarks about his lack of possessions devaluaing his worth!
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Then why did you come on board and post such a detailed and very long message? I'm sure that you do care what is happening, you guys probably want him just as much as us Hawks fans.
Then why did you come on board and post such a detailed and very long message? I'm sure that you do care what is happening, you guys probably want him just as much as us Hawks fans.
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True he has a hardie permanently mounted on his brains dashboard. Does anyone respect him at all anymore??
He is like a gossiping old lady.
Pathetic.
True he has a hardie permanently mounted on his brains dashboard. Does anyone respect him at all anymore??
He is like a gossiping old lady.
Pathetic.
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He is NOT worth more than a first round pick 9, and maybe another player who WANTS to go to PA.. Browny did NOT want to go. That was his choice, as he was still under contract with us, he chose not to go. I suppose if they don't accept 10 and 16 from your club, and demand 10 and a Michael Hurley, you would be more than happy to part with him?? I think not!! Williams was out of his cottton pickin' mind demanding Lewis,Ladson or Schoenmakers as well as pick 9.. I have said before that Williams is a sandwich short of a picnic...It's time he was realistic! A prominent player manager stated today that he would NOT allow any of his players to go to PA..Sad, isn't it, when it gets to that!
This is latest on twitter from Adam White;
TRADE WEEK: A move by Mark Williams to Essendon may help facilitate the Shaun Burgoyne deal. I still think Burgoyne will be a Hawk by Friday
Just posted...
And we don't care what you think either. You can have him for pick 10 and 16, after all he is a p/ship player, even though he has questionable knees. You are welcome to him.
He is NOT worth more than a first round pick 9, and maybe another player who WANTS to go to PA.. Browny did NOT want to go. That was his choice, as he was still under contract with us, he chose not to go. I suppose if they don't accept 10 and 16 from your club, and demand 10 and a Michael Hurley, you would be more than happy to part with him?? I think not!! Williams was out of his cottton pickin' mind demanding Lewis,Ladson or Schoenmakers as well as pick 9.. I have said before that Williams is a sandwich short of a picnic...It's time he was realistic! A prominent player manager stated today that he would NOT allow any of his players to go to PA..Sad, isn't it, when it gets to that!
This is latest on twitter from Adam White;
TRADE WEEK: A move by Mark Williams to Essendon may help facilitate the Shaun Burgoyne deal. I still think Burgoyne will be a Hawk by Friday
Just posted...
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Firstly, Essendon will not give up pick 16 for Williams, maybe pick 26, but that would be about it.
Will 9 & 26 get Burgoyne?
Jolly was traded for 14 and 46?
I think Jolly is worth more than Burgoyne, and especially to us.
If Port don't accept 9 & 26 then they're being unrealistic.
Is Pelchen really getting it done for us?
IMO, it's best to simply log onto BF Friday arvo and then assess our success in trade week.
Firstly, Essendon will not give up pick 16 for Williams, maybe pick 26, but that would be about it.
Will 9 & 26 get Burgoyne?
Jolly was traded for 14 and 46?
I think Jolly is worth more than Burgoyne, and especially to us.
If Port don't accept 9 & 26 then they're being unrealistic.
Is Pelchen really getting it done for us?
IMO, it's best to simply log onto BF Friday arvo and then assess our success in trade week.
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the "don't care" bit is in relation to whether hawthorn screw themselves over or not.
as for burgoyne, now that we've got something decent for lovett, i want to keep both picks and look 3 years ahead by drafting two young 1st round mids. you're welcome to burgoyne from my perspective. but bloody hell you're making a mess of it.
the "don't care" bit is in relation to whether hawthorn screw themselves over or not.
as for burgoyne, now that we've got something decent for lovett, i want to keep both picks and look 3 years ahead by drafting two young 1st round mids. you're welcome to burgoyne from my perspective. but bloody hell you're making a mess of it.
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Agreed, if you go by possessions, kane Cornes is twice the player Shaun Burgoyne is.
Agreed, if you go by possessions, kane Cornes is twice the player Shaun Burgoyne is.
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Port want too much. Get Jolly or mumford!
Port want too much. Get Jolly or mumford!
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He also said that although he doesn't read it "someone" he knows told him what the Hawk BF Flogs (his words) were saying about him after he broke the news about campbell and believes he is owed an apology for being "right".
He then went onto say that he doubted the flogs would apologise.
So........hi fellow flogs
He also said that although he doesn't read it "someone" he knows told him what the Hawk BF Flogs (his words) were saying about him after he broke the news about campbell and believes he is owed an apology for being "right".
He then went onto say that he doubted the flogs would apologise.
So........hi fellow flogs
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Are we? or is Port making it messy?
Most non bias opinions think our offer of pick 9 + a fringe player is fair.
McGlynn would walk straight into their best 22.
Are we? or is Port making it messy?
Most non bias opinions think our offer of pick 9 + a fringe player is fair.
McGlynn would walk straight into their best 22.
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i wouldn't be telling port to feel free to speak to hurley without at least warning the kid! my point in that post is that you don't seem to have been fully prepared for what happened. which is ridiculous. why even give Port the faintest idea that you'd be willing to part with Brown if you aren't? and then not even be able to co-ordinate the message between the president and footy department?
Mal blew the whole "he wasn't offered" theory out of the water anyway. sematics may allow you to say that the word "offered" wasn't used. but the message clearly was.
i wouldn't be telling port to feel free to speak to hurley without at least warning the kid! my point in that post is that you don't seem to have been fully prepared for what happened. which is ridiculous. why even give Port the faintest idea that you'd be willing to part with Brown if you aren't? and then not even be able to co-ordinate the message between the president and footy department?
Mal blew the whole "he wasn't offered" theory out of the water anyway. sematics may allow you to say that the word "offered" wasn't used. but the message clearly was.
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as do i. but you've alienated Brown and half the supporters by being clumsy, at best. and probably made burgoynes life hell in the process. the residual from the pissing-in-the-breeze exercise with ROK still lingers in the AFL football departments too.
anyway, carry on. i hope you get him. means we won't be tempted to.
as do i. but you've alienated Brown and half the supporters by being clumsy, at best. and probably made burgoynes life hell in the process. the residual from the pissing-in-the-breeze exercise with ROK still lingers in the AFL football departments too.
anyway, carry on. i hope you get him. means we won't be tempted to.
