Cale Morton, is he the best young player in the game?

[tugga]

Cant be bothered reading through 10 pages of this thread. But the answer is no he isnt the best youngster in the game. There are a few players comfortably ahead of him. He is going along very nicely though, and doesnt seem to get the big wraps on him that alot of other youngsters get, probably due to the fact he plays for Melbourne and we have a much lower media profile.

I'd say he is probably second best of his draft behind Rioli at this stage.

Cale's tank is massive, he reads the play well, he has a decent kick on him, and he takes great contested marks for someone of his size too. When he puts on abit more weight he will start developing more of an inside game and laying more tackles. That's limiting his game at the moment, making it purely outside. He is however a guy in his second season and turned 19 this year, so I'll cut him slack. Should be playing for another 10+ years yet, and it's looking like he'll be a star.

Rioli, Kruezer and Cotchin are much better. Palmer, Masten, probably better as well.
But...I like Morton. I think he can play and once all of Melbourne's younger players start clicking into gear, he will find his niche and play a very important role.

 

[demon21]

Rioli, Kruezer and Cotchin are much better. Palmer, Masten, probably better as well.
But...I like Morton. I think he can play and once all of Melbourne's younger players start clicking into gear, he will find his niche and play a very important role.

I agree with Rioli, Kruezer and Cotchin are better players at the moment. But i dont think that Palmer and Masten are better players.

 

[stefoid]

Was the 2007 draft touted as a super-draft? certainly turning out that way.

not one bulldogs draftee that isnt showing something.

 

[Mr Gor]

So you obviously haven't watched him much right? He nearly dragged us over the line against Essendon last year. It took Lloyd having his best game of the year and booting 6/8 goals (forget if it was 6 or 8) to drag the Dons over the line. Cale had 30 disposals and kicked 3 goals in the second half, 2 on the run from outside 50. He nearly single handedly pulled off a huge upset, and was the most influential player on the ground when it counted. He got 2 Brownlow votes, and had a massive impact on the game. He has done so multiple times now.

You clearly havent watched him play if you think he doesnt have any effect. Sure he hasnt done it every week, but he is young and consistency will come. But to say he doesnt/isnt going to effect games is just plain wrong. If it werent for Davey's amazing form, he'd likely be copping a tag weekly already.

My comments on Morton have lined up with most of the other posts I have read, so I can't be that far off. While I haven't watched EVERY Melbourne game, I have seen enough of Cale Morton to stand by the statements I made.

I didn't say that he won't EVER effect games, I said he has to learn how to and that the basics were there. Remove the Melbourne filter from your brain process next time.

 

[whelan=legend]

Rioli, Kruezer and Cotchin are much better. Palmer, Masten, probably better as well.
But...I like Morton. I think he can play and once all of Melbourne's younger players start clicking into gear, he will find his niche and play a very important role.

How are Kruezer, Cotchin and Masten better? Care to elaborate?

 

[Jeebs]

..It's not that hard to run sideways after every contest and take a mark...

You so funny.

Get ready, yeah I'm going there, STATS!

~720m gained by Morton on Sunday. About 200m more than anyone else.

 

[tugga]

How are Kruezer, Cotchin and Masten better? Care to elaborate?

Sure.
Kruezer pretty much won a game by himself last year in his first season. I doubt whether Morton will do that even once in his career.
Cotchin gets his own ball and then beats Morton at his own game with his delivery to boot.
Masten? Just an opinion. perhaps I was basing that on who I think will become the better player, and not necessarily the more important player in relation to his side's structure.

 

[Demonheart]

Hes not even the best in that draft...

i think cotchin and kruezer are a mile ahead...

I don't disagree with what you're saying because I rate Cotchin and Kruezer highly but please show evidence that they are a mile ahead.

Kruezer better? Sure, I'm willing to concede that but miles better I don't. Cotchin even less so.

 

[J6shSC]

Cotchin is a freak, easily the best from the draft.

 

[Demonheart]

Sure.
Kruezer pretty much won a game by himself last year in his first season. I doubt whether Morton will do that even once in his career.
Cotchin gets his own ball and then beats Morton at his own game with his delivery to boot.
Masten? Just an opinion. perhaps I was basing that on who I think will become the better player, and not necessarily the more important player in relation to his side's structure.

There is no evidence there, just opinion. Are you aware of the difference?

There has already been several occassions where Morton has almost won a game off his own boot. Sorry, you fail there.
Morton's kicking is not as bad as people are saying in this thread, his running goals from 50m plus show that. Morton's running capacity is elite, a doubt that Cotchin could match him there.
I like Masten, he's going to be a very, very good player. Completely different to Morton though

 

[J6shSC]

There has already been several occassions where Morton has almost won a game off his own boot.

Melbourne have to win a game before people can claim Morton can win it off his own boot.

 

[tugga]

There is no evidence there, just opinion. Are you aware of the difference?

There has already been several occassions where Morton has almost won a game off his own boot. Sorry, you fail there.
Morton's kicking is not as bad as people are saying in this thread, his running goals from 50m plus show that. Morton's running capacity is elite, a doubt that Cotchin could match him there.
I like Masten, he's going to be a very, very good player. Completely different to Morton though

Evidence? Show me evidence that Morton is better than Kruezer or Cotchin? of course it's all opinion.
You misunderstood my post. Obviously. I never said Morton's kicking was bad. Quite the opposite. I inferred that it was good. It is just that Cotchin wins his own ball (Morton does not) and then backs it up with crisp disposal so (once again, in my opinion) he has it over Morton right there and then.
Kreuzer actually has torn a game wide open by himself (west coast at Subi last year). You said Morton almost has. Which is better?

 

[Demonheart]

Evidence? Show me evidence that Morton is better than Kruezer or Cotchin? of course it's all opinion.
You misunderstood my post. Obviously. I never said Morton's kicking was bad. Quite the opposite. I inferred that it was good. It is just that Cotchin wins his own ball (Morton does not) and then backs it up with crisp disposal so (once again, in my opinion) he has it over Morton right there and then.
Kreuzer actually has torn a game wide open by himself (west coast at Subi last year). You said Morton almost has. Which is better?

What you said was that Kruezer has 'pretty much' won a gome off his own boot which is completely different to 'torn a game wide open by himself'

 

[Demonheart]

Melbourne have to win a game before people can claim Morton can win it off his own boot.

That would have been funny if Melbourne hadn't won any games this season...

 

[tugga]

What you said was that Kruezer has 'pretty much' won a gome off his own boot which is completely different to 'torn a game wide open by himself'

Either way, Kreuzer has had more influence over his team's result than Morton has. Whether that equates to being better is purely subjective. Given a choice i would taken Kreuzer or Cotchin ahead of Morton right now and reckon it will stay that way throughout their careers, barring injury of course.
once again, i will state that Morton is a good player and I think he will become an even more important part of your side.
But in answer to the OP, it's ludicrous to state he's the best young player in the game. Not even close.

 

[Mr Gor]

You so funny.

Get ready, yeah I'm going there, STATS!

~720m gained by Morton on Sunday. About 200m more than anyone else.

isn't that expected when you get 10+ more kicks than anyone else on the ground???? but then again, that shows he just kicked it 20m most of the time....

what did that have to do with running sideways to take marks anyway?

 

[Jeebs]

isn't that expected when you get 10+ more kicks than anyone else on the ground???? but then again, that shows he just kicked it 20m most of the time....

what did that have to do with running sideways to take marks anyway?

Fair call. Must admit I read your post wrong (even though I quoted it ). Read as kicking sideways. Sorry about that. I've had my coffee now.

But metres gained are metres gained. He could have kicked 50m instead of 20m, for a turnover, but he didnt.

 

[whelan=legend]

Kruezer pretty much won a game by himself last year in his first season. I doubt whether Morton will do that even once in his career.

So you're basing it one game now?
Last year against Essendon Morton almost single handedly won us the game with 30 posessions and 3 goals.
I've never really seen Kreuzer have any influence at all on a match, guess i haven't watched him enough. Although I did enjoy the Carlton vs Freo game, i'll tell you that.

 

[Hodgepodge]

How many of those possessions against West Coast were contested?

 

[whelan=legend]

How many of those possessions against West Coast were contested?

Only 4 because we were making him play wide of his man and create the play with his penetrating kicks through the zone.

Against Adelaide 2 weeks ago in sloppy match when he was needed in close 13 out of his 28 posessions were contested. Very versatile player i'm sure you can see.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Only 4 because we were making him play wide of his man and create the play with his penetrating kicks through the zone.

Against Adelaide 2 weeks ago in sloppy match when he was needed in close 13 out of his 28 posessions were contested. Very versatile player i'm sure you can see.

What happened to his kicking? He was supposed to be an elite kick . . . I went around telling everybody how this Morton was a sensational kick of the football.

Anyway, I'd have Rioli ahead of him.

 

[Sugars_Bunyip#12]

I agree with Rioli, Kruezer and Cotchin are better players at the moment. But i dont think that Palmer and Masten are better players.

Palmer had a better year last year but this year Morton is doing better, apart from tackles, Morton seems to be a bit distant in tackling.

 

[tugga]

So you're basing it one game now?
Last year against Essendon Morton almost single handedly won us the game with 30 posessions and 3 goals.
I've never really seen Kreuzer have any influence at all on a match, guess i haven't watched him enough. Although I did enjoy the Carlton vs Freo game, i'll tell you that.

For my original point, yes...that was the game I was referring to.

 

[oooze]

Morton averages 25 touches and over 7 marks a game in his 2nd season. His ability to accumulate possession is more impressive than any other aspect of Kruezer's or Mastens game.

Lets remember Kruezer couldnt even get a go in the ruck before Sam Jacobs.

And Morton has had a better career than Cotchin so far considering Cotchin is always out injured. You can't be a good player when your on the sidelines.

 

[MadDawg]

I think Morton is an absolute gun, some of the kicks he can do are extremely impressive, not only distance for the skinny fella but the angles and weight he puts on the ball. He will be one of the elite when he puts a bit more weight on.