You didn't answer any of my questions....
But nice to clarify that you don't think Harry mcKay is elite. lol. Or the other players in bold.
Maybe put odds on the Ben Ronke for All Australian
Also funny how you cherry pick the stats but as soon as I pulled out stats about forward pressure etc. with Pickett and Spargo, you went silent and moved on strangely to another stat which I then disapproved.
Night,
Ben Ronke 'superstar'.
p.s. maybe give us your insights on what you think Luke Jackson is worth considering he doesn't statistically amaze in any category really. Would you offer him 200k-300k based on his statistical output?
But I know how you rate players. You look at their draft number, and rate them according to hype articles that come from the club.
You are all over the place now. I will politely decline answering your strange irrelevant requests. Let’s summarise where we are with things.
The thread is about Cam Rayner. My rating him 9th in his draft crop for future value is based on what I believe he is likely to produce in the future. You rate him 30th in his draft class for value over his whole career. One of the several cues I used to rate him is where he was picked in the draft. Why I use that as a cue in his case is because it gives a useful clue to how good he is. I believe Rayner doing his knee stopped us from seeing him become significantly more prominent from 2021 onwards. Another cue I used is that in watching him play in his 3rd season and especially in the finals before he did his knee, he looked like he was gaining a lot more confidence to use his strengths at AFL level.
Am I right or wrong? Only time can tell that. He has played 4 games at any age older than 20yo. Those 4 games are coming off an ACL injury.
You seem to be jumping up and down because I rated Rayner above Bailey Fritsch for future value. You rate Fritsch - based on a different criteria, that being the value of the player’s whole career - 4th best from the draft crop of 2017. I think this is quite wrong and have Fritsch rated 16th for future value, possibly around 10th for whole career value. You seem to base your rating of Fritsch almost wholly on his goal tally of 59 goals from 24 games in 2021. I say you base it solely on the goal tally because that is basically all he did, kick goals. And he has done nothing of any significance in any other season. Let’s remember Fritsch had not even played an AFL game by the time he was the age Rayner last played before doing his knee. To show you just approximately where I think Fritsch’s 2021 season fits, let’s compare it to Josh Caddy’s 2018 season.
2018 as a 25yo Caddy played 22 games. He scored 46 goals and had 8 goal assists, 46 + 8 = 54. He averaged 16 disposals. He made the All Australian squad of 40. Caddy finished 10th in his club’s Best & Fairest. Richmond won the Minor Premiership.
2021 after 22 games a 24yo Fritsch had 51 goals and 6 goal assists = 57. Three more than Caddy after 22 games in 2018. But Fritsch averaged just 10 disposals to Caddy’s 16. Fritsch also made the AA squad in 2021. Fritsch finished 12th in his club’s Best & Fairest. Melbourne won the Minor Premiership.
Richmond thought so much of Caddy’s 2018 season they never played him in that role again, and went on to win the next two flags. Fritsch and Melbourne of course had 2 great games to finish off the season, whereas Caddy and Richmond in 2018 did not. But this I believe does put some perspective to Fritsch’s 2021 season. It was nowhere near as remarkable as you think it was. These guys at their best are very tidy players but they are not elite. The more I look at Fritsch the more I realise Melbourne would not net a top 10 draft pick for him if they traded him. I am confident his trade value would be around a late first round pick. And I doubt Brisbane would unload Rayner for less than that.
So I don’t know why you are making such a big thing of it.
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