Hot Topic Carlton 2024 Trade Discussion

[carlton_99]

So the deals seem to be:
Carlton give F1 and F2 for #13
Collingwood give F1 + Noble for #13 + #23

If it is truly the above our offer is far more attractive to the Suns when comparing it to the Pies offer. However, we may also want something back with #13 in our deal (like The Old Dark Navy's mentioned above). Our offer also seems better than the ones mentioned for the Dogs (F1), Dees (F1) and Swans (#19 + #22) in the article

NB: It is the Suns we are dealing with - hard to predict what idiocy they are capable of.

 

[bradfisher14]

Hopefully we want 13 to take to draft if we're giving away 34 to get it too.

34 will be eaten by a bid on Ben regardless. Might as well move it on.

 

[bluesDeluxe]

Ok now we are in the conversation at least

 

[Blue By Blood]

Hopefully we want 13 to take to draft if we're giving away 34 to get it too.

Think the more likely outcome is that it’s to try to get Houston honestly. But I wouldn’t be mad if we got it and went to the draft with it either. 2 top 20 picks this year would be nice.

Giving away 34 would be to get back into the 2nd round of next years draft. You can’t trade a F1 and F2 without still holding a 2nd round pick in that draft.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Think the more likely outcome is that it’s to try to get Houston honestly. But I wouldn’t be mad if we got it and went to the draft with it either. 2 top 20 picks this year would be nice.

Giving away 34 would be to get back into the 2nd round of next years draft. You can’t trade a F1 and F2 without still holding a 2nd round pick in that draft.

Yes but if 34 is gone there's not much left for bids and the 4th pick Austin mentioned will be very late

 

[carlton_99]

Yes but if 34 is gone there's not much left for bids and the 4th pick Austin mentioned will be very late

I guess if Kennedy/Carroll/Owies/Young are on the trade block we might get some picks from them

 

[Bluegirljan03]

Have we nominated the two Campo boys yet? We always scream we haven't had father sons like other teams.
The Houston deal seems like it's in the too hard basket.

 

[JJBagger]

Are the media just assuming we will use the Gold Coast pick to try get Houston? From what Austin said, it seems like we want to use it at the draft

 

[HereComesJuddy]

But in the Blumours thread we have posters saying that Owies has been offered a 2 year contract.

You didn’t post the persons name you quoted… why not?

I’m not going to go into it anymore but anyone saying Owies has been offered a deal for 1, 2 or however many years at this point is incorrect and is feeding you porkies

 

[marcmurphy3]

I think if we get 13 it will be for Houston and the only scenario in which it's taken to the draft is if Port turn it down (which is quite possible given their demands so far).

Someone will be happy to take 34 for an F2.

 

[carlton_99]

I think if we get 13 it will be for Houston and the only scenario in which it's taken to the draft is if Port turn it down (which is quite possible given their demands so far).

Someone will be happy to take 34 for an F2.

If we get #13 it's really a win/win. We either take two top-15 picks or we end up with Houston + one top-15 pick.

 

[Arr0w]

This is going to be very interesting

We up our offer to the Suns, if we get it, we'll have back to back picks, if the Houston deal doesn't get done

Nice to have strong options

 

[marcmurphy3]

If we get #13 it's really a win/win. We either take two top-15 picks or we end up with Houston + one top-15 pick.

Plus ensure Pies can't get Houston.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Hopefully we want 13 to take to draft if we're giving away 34 to get it too.

Best outcome imo. I have no doubt we would still offer Port 13 but that’s about it and we would be happy to go to the draft with 12, 13 and to get the Campos. 4 at the draft as Austin stated

 

[Arr0w]

You didn’t post the persons name you quoted… why not?

I’m not going to go into it anymore but anyone saying Owies has been offered a deal for 1, 2 or however many years at this point is incorrect and is feeding you porkies

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There is no SDK situation. Geelong don’t even know they were looking to trade him, and SDK didn’t know he wanted to leave Geelong. 😂 It's building though. I'd be pretty pissed if I was getting looked over for Kolodjasnij.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[marcmurphy3]

So the deals seem to be:
Carlton give F1 and F2 for #13
Collingwood give F1 + Noble for #13 + #23

If it is truly the above our offer is far more attractive to the Suns when comparing it to the Pies offer. However, we may also want something back with #13 in our deal (like The Old Dark Navy's mentioned above). Our offer also seems better than the ones mentioned for the Dogs (F1), Dees (F1) and Swans (#19 + #22) in the article

NB: It is the Suns we are dealing with - hard to predict what idiocy they are capable of.

One thing in our favour is clubs don't normally like to tie trades for fringe players into these high value deals.

GC have heaps perfectly reasonable picks to trade for a noble. They don't need to compromise maximising the value of 13 to get him through the door.

 

[The Bighouse]

Best outcome imo. I have no doubt we would still offer Port 13 but that’s about it and we would be happy to go to the draft with 12, 13 and to get the Campos. 4 at the draft as Austin stated

MIN 4 wasn’t it? Room for more (or Lucas as a rookie)

 

[BluStreak]

You didn’t post the persons name you quoted… why not?

I’m not going to go into it anymore but anyone saying Owies has been offered a deal for 1, 2 or however many years at this point is incorrect and is feeding you porkies

tried using a quotes but it would not take so had to just paste. Post was from Forty3

 

[Soapy V]

My personal preference is to take 12 & 13 to the draft.

My gut feel is we will use one for Houston. Just too much noise around.

Which ever way it works can’t be unhappy with results

A fit list, improvement in youth, Pick 12, Houston, Campo twins plus a couple of smart additions and we are in a great spot

 

[HereComesJuddy]

tried using a quotes but it would not take so had to just paste. Post was from Forty3

Thank you!
I still stand by my understanding of the Owies contract

 

[BluStreak]

Thank you!
I still stand by my understanding of the Owies contract

Apologises to all. My post was not about disproving one poster or another but rather that the info coming through from different posters is conflicting and as such posters will be posting based upon what they have read and remembered.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

What's odd with this is #13 alone won't be enough for Houston and we would have traded away #34 to make this deal work. Unless we get picks from any player outgoings (Kennedy/Young/Owies/Carroll etc) not sure how this gets us Houston.

Surely, there's your answer....

And if not, we get a 2nd high draftee....

Port will take #13 and steak knives....

 

[Stamos]

Surely, there's your answer....

And if not, we get a 2nd high draftee....

Port will take #13 and steak knives....

I think the point was that if we do that trade, we won’t have the steak knives to add.
Would seem more likely that we’d end up taking #13 to the draft.

 

[Arr0w]

I think the point was that if we do that trade, we won’t have the steak knives to add.
Would seem more likely that we’d end up taking #13 to the draft.

Port wants a 1st this year, its why Pies will struggle to get a deal done for Houston. Port will then try to hand over a F1 for Lukosius

We are trying to essentially turn a F1 into Houston, but there should be a shuffle of later picks, if the trade happens

Otherwise, we take back to back picks to the draft

Still think other clubs will look at trying to gain that pick 13

 

[The Bighouse]

So the deals seem to be:
Carlton give F1 and F2 for #13
Collingwood give F1 + Noble for #13 + #23

If it is truly the above our offer is far more attractive to the Suns when comparing it to the Pies offer. However, we may also want something back with #13 in our deal (like The Old Dark Navy's mentioned above). Our offer also seems better than the ones mentioned for the Dogs (F1), Dees (F1) and Swans (#19 + #22) in the article

NB: It is the Suns we are dealing with - hard to predict what idiocy they are capable of.

GCFC should just stick with Budarick. John Noble is worth what was pick#46.

Uwland Snr as well + Powell & to add Rioli off the HBF = Noble is surplus to needs with (#2 pick) Weller able to play there too.