Banter Who will be better in 2025, Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[Elixuh]

 

[Fadge]

Seems you have an issue with it in 2024 why would 2025 be any different ?

No, I didn't have any issue with people accurately stating Carlton finished higher than Collingwood in 2024.

Why would I? It's factually correct.

 

[Fadge]

These Carlton posters are really struggling.

Getting confused between the words 'higher' and 'better'...

Then something, something pizza, something.

Oh my.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Pies will pick up Stringer and he will turn up day 1 on 110kegs -nothing surer.

Perfect timing we need a new biggest loser sponser since Hawkins has retired. I wonder how thick Stringers cankles will get, they have a lot of macca’s in Collingwood.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Pies do appear to be getting desperate now. Kitchen sink for Shultz, now chasing the package, which spud is next cab off the rank.

Owies?

 

[doppleganger]

No, I didn't have any issue with people accurately stating Carlton finished higher than Collingwood in 2024.

Why would I? It's factually correct.

It should be a pretty straight forward concept.

Bagger fans dont understand how the ladder works, they still think they finished top4 in 2023.

To cater for the nuffie bagger fan, the thread changed from who will finish higher to who will be better.

Pies were better than Carlton 2024.

What do they want to run with for 2025? Better of finish higher on the ladder?

 

[carlton_99]

It should be a pretty straight forward concept.

Bagger fans dont understand how the ladder works, they still think they finished top4 in 2023.

To cater for the nuffie bagger fan, the thread changed from who will finish higher to who will be better.

Pies were better than Carlton 2024.

What do they want to run with for 2025? Better of finish higher on the ladder?

Carlton were better in 2024 - and I have been asking for a consistent metric for 25' that Pies fans will stick to for a while with no reply yet. You happy to go with ladder position and if both teams make finals then use finals finish?

 

[Robertio]

These Carlton posters are really struggling.

Getting confused between the words 'higher' and 'better'...

Then something, something pizza, something.

Oh my.

Higher is better no matter how you want to look at it, keep going with your primary school antics it's very amusing.

 

[Fadge]

Carlton were better in 2024 - and I have been asking for a consistent metric for 25' that Pies fans will stick to for a while with no reply yet. You happy to go with ladder position and if both teams make finals then use finals finish?

Higher is better no matter how you want to look at it, keep going with your primary school antics it's very amusing.

Negative.

If the question was about who was 'higher', there is no doubt or room for interpretation - it was Carlton.

If the question was about who was 'better', there is room for interpretation, and naturally you would start with the ladder and the logical person would arrive at the following conclusion:
1. Carlton higher on the ladder by percentage only. Hmm... we should look a little closer at this.
2. The two teams played each other twice, and both games were won by Collingwood. Hmm, that changes things....
3. Were there any fundamental differences in their draws? What, you're telling me that Carlton had double up games against the two clear worst teams in the competition, whilst Collingwood didn't?

There is only one logical conclusion as to who was better in 2024, and it is definitely not the conclusion in this thread title as updated by a deluded and desperate Carlton supporting moderator.

 

[Fadge]

You happy to go with ladder position and if both teams make finals then use finals finish?

I'm happy to go with the conclusion of the logical, rational and non-desperate layperson.

 

[carlton_99]

Negative.

If the question was about who was 'higher', there is no doubt or room for interpretation - it was Carlton.

If the question was about who was 'better', there is room for interpretation, and naturally you would start with the ladder and the logical person would arrive at the following conclusion:
1. Carlton higher on the ladder by percentage only. Hmm... we should look a little closer at this.
2. The two teams played each other twice, and both games were won by Collingwood. Hmm, that changes things....
3. Were there any fundamental differences in their draws? What, you're telling me that Carlton had double up games against the two clear worst teams in the competition, whilst Collingwood didn't?

There is only one logical conclusion as to who was better in 2024, and it is definitely not the conclusion in this thread title as updated by a deluded and desperate Carlton supporting moderator.

Not having this conversation again - why can't you just agree to a consistent and objective metric for 25'.

Are you happy to use ladder position and if both teams make finals finals position for 2025?

 

[Fadge]

Not having this conversation again - why can't you just agree to a consistent and objective metric for 25'.

Are you happy to use ladder position and if both teams make finals finals position for 2025?

To answer what question?

 

[carlton_99]

I'm happy to go with the conclusion of the logical, rational and non-desperate layperson.

That is funny - anyway have fun deflecting. For any Pies/Blues fan that want to commit to an objective and consistent measure to determine who is better at the end of the season happy to chat.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Owies?

Yep, anyone who can actually kick a goal

 

[Robertio]

Negative.

If the question was about who was 'higher', there is no doubt or room for interpretation - it was Carlton.

If the question was about who was 'better', there is room for interpretation, and naturally you would start with the ladder and the logical person would arrive at the following conclusion:
1. Carlton higher on the ladder by percentage only. Hmm... we should look a little closer at this.
2. The two teams played each other twice, and both games were won by Collingwood. Hmm, that changes things....
3. Were there any fundamental differences in their draws? What, you're telling me that Carlton had double up games against the two clear worst teams in the competition, whilst Collingwood didn't?

There is only one logical conclusion as to who was better in 2024, and it is definitely not the conclusion in this thread title as updated by a deluded and desperate Carlton supporting moderator.

Were you really the better team in the 2nd game though? McGovern kicks straight we win after giving you a start in the last quarter. We also beat teams the Pies couldn't and we flogged Geelong which was probably the difference in the end so suck it up.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Were you really the better team in the 2nd game though? McGovern kicks straight we win after giving you a start in the last quarter. We also beat teams the Pies couldn't and we flogged Geelong which was probably the difference in the end so suck it up.

Two crap, disappointing, mid-table sides

Happy to call it a draw and move on

 

[Robertio]

Two crap, disappointing, mid-table sides

Happy to call it a draw and move on

Good call mate, been a bit of fun with you blokes this season and we'll do it again next season after Cripps beats Nick in the Brownlow.

 

[beerbandit]

 

[Fadge]

Two crap, disappointing, mid-table sides

Happy to call it a draw and move on

Careful.

Carlton supporters get offended when you refer to them as a 'mid-table side'...

 

[Fadge]

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I'm gonna start using this.

I expect it will soon become a standard term in the Aussie vernacular, just like 'Blueshakes'.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Owies?

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Worm4 seems a bit emotional in that video.

 

[Worm4]

Careful.

Carlton supporters get offended when you refer to them as a 'mid-table side'...

Mid table = 9th or 10th

 

[Elixuh]

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would prefer to be delisted than remain playing for Carlton. Troubling times.

 

[carlton_99]

Jack Martin would prefer to be delisted than remain playing for Carlton. Troubling times.

The feeling is unfortunately mutual

But good player dealing by the club to do it - helps him get where he wants easily (even via a rookie selection)