Banter Who will be better in 2025, Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[Fadge]

The only time I would see some lack of clarity is if both teams made finals and got kicked out in the same week.

Hilarious.

If you think the ladder is the defining measure (which we don't agree with), why wouldn't it default to the team that finished higher?

 

[Fadge]

Last year you were emphasising FORM, whatever happened to that?
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Oh no.

Seems you've stumbled upon some hypocrisy...

 

[Mr Meow]

Go take ur cotton on ambassadorships, cheap property deals and faux home sickness elsewhere. Nobody cares for ur fraudulent Cats in here, it's a thread for comparing and discussing clubs who have the equal most premierships in history... Not the minnows down the highway

Let's discuss it then.

Collingwood clear winners 2023, Carlton got a draw out of them in 2024 but could not take clear season bragging rights.

You can protest all you like but this is indeed the consensus among neutrals, who have the final say.

Enjoy your pretend victory. The frustration is there for all to see. Which is why you still have Pies supporters joyfully mocking you.

 

[Doc1763]

Let's discuss it then.

Collingwood clear winners 2023, Carlton got a draw out of them in 2024 but could not take clear season bragging rights.

You can protest all you like but this is indeed the consensus among neutrals, who have the final say.

Enjoy your pretend victory. The frustration is there for all to see. Which is why you still have Pies supporters joyfully mocking you.

and they know, deep down, that their misery is not ending soon.

 

[Fadge]

Deathriding the Cats? Cats are rubbish so I really feel no need to deathride them.

I'll be rooting for anyone but Brisbane if they make it through tonight's match. Cats will get blown to smitherines by whoever's left anyway

Oh. Boy.

'Why would I deathride the Cats?'

Very next statement is deathriding the Cats....

 

[Mr Meow]

Oh. Boy.

'Why would I deathride the Cats?'

Very next statement is deathriding the Cats....

People so proudly moronic really are treasures. I always get a good laugh out of Walshy between his frequent visits to the beach.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Fudge and Meowbagger speaking of morons...

 

[Pistol Night]

Try and show a bit more sensitivity here guys. You’ve got supporters of the last 2 premiers arguing with supporters of a team that hasn’t won one in 30 years. They’re bound to be a bit grumpy

 

[Doc1763]

Try and show a bit more sensitivity here guys. You’ve got supporters of the last 2 premiers arguing with supporters of a team that hasn’t won one in 30 years. They’re bound to be a bit grumpy

The jabronies should be honored we are talking to them at all.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Try and show a bit more sensitivity here guys. You’ve got supporters of the last 2 premiers arguing with supporters of a team that hasn’t won one in 30 years. They’re bound to be a bit grumpy

Not surprising that the residents of the local retirees village have teamed up in here. The old bats would be losing their marbles down there with the terrible golfing weather we've had of late.

 

[Doc1763]

Not surprising that the residents of the local retirees village have teamed up in here. The old bats would be losing their marbles down there with the terrible golfing weather we've had of late.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

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That's fkin good

 

[carlton_99]

Hilarious.

If you think the ladder is the defining measure (which we don't agree with), why wouldn't it default to the team that finished higher?

I said that in my original post on the matter - in my opinion it should go back to the ladder in that rare case. But once again no Pies fan replied and this is supposed to be objective and so both sides should agree

 

[Fadge]

I said that in my original post on the matter - in my opinion it should go back to the ladder in that rare case. But once again no Pies fan replied and this is supposed to be objective and so both sides should agree

If you want a thread to be absolutely 'objective', then don't use the term 'better' in the thread title.

Use 'higher on the ladder', or 'most wins', or 'fewest losses', or 'better head to head record'.

If you want to use the term 'better', you're obligated to assess ALL the data, of which ladder position would be the determinant in 98% of cases. But when only percentage separates the teams, you surely must look deeper?

 

[carlton_99]

If you want a thread to be absolutely 'objective', then don't use the term 'better' in the thread title.

Use 'higher on the ladder', or 'most wins', or 'fewest losses', or 'better head to head record'.

If you want to use the term 'better', you're obligated to assess ALL the data, of which ladder position would be the determinant in 98% of cases. But when only percentage separates the teams, you surely must look deeper?

I didn't set the thread title. One team made finals and one didn't - I personally don't see how a team that fails to make finals has had a better season than a team that makes it. Regardless 2024 is now over so looking forward to 2025 is it going to be any different? Is a one game gap enough for the ladder to be right? Is two games enough? You just open Pandora's box

 

[Fadge]

I didn't set the thread title. One team made finals and one didn't - I personally don't see how a team that fails to make finals has had a better season than a team that makes it. Regardless 2024 is now over so looking forward to 2025 is it going to be any different? Is a one game gap enough for the ladder to be right? Is two games enough? You just open Pandora's box

You use your brain, analyse the data, and come to a conclusion.

 

[carlton_99]

You use your brain, analyse the data, and come to a conclusion.

Mate just say you don't want to stick to a metric - then I'll stop trying to come up with something everyone can agree on.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

An injury ridden Carlton team who's form was total and utter dogshit since the end of June, still finished in front of this "all mighty" Collingwood team.

You'd think the Pies supporters would be able to take a hint here! This Carlton team will not have the ill luck it had with injuries in 2025.

It will be better more improved, and will finish in front of the Pies yet again. I'm expecting top four or a prelim final at the very least for Carlton in 2025.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Let's discuss it then.

Collingwood clear winners 2023, Carlton got a draw out of them in 2024 but could not take clear season bragging rights.

You can protest all you like but this is indeed the consensus among neutrals, who have the final say.

Enjoy your pretend victory. The frustration is there for all to see. Which is why you still have Pies supporters joyfully mocking you.

They have no reason to mock. An injury plagued Carlton team prevented them from putting back to back flags together.

We don't give a shit what others think of us anyway. Any year that ends with neither the Pies or Bombers winning a flag is always a good one.

There's plenty of flags for this Carlton team to win and plenty of grand finals for this Collingwood team to lose as well.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

I have no disdain for the Cats. They just suck and their supporters are delusional

It doesn't matter how many flags the Cats win. They will always be a small and tiny insignificant club to me.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

As i've said numerous times the last legit Collingwood flag was in 1990.

 

[Fadge]

They have no reason to mock. An injury plagued Carlton team prevented them from putting back to back flags together.

By losing both games to Collingwood?

Carlton sure stood in the way of Collingwood and Back to Back!

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

By losing both games to Collingwood?

Carlton sure stood in the way of Collingwood and Back to Back!

You must be reading the ladder upside down yet again.

 

[Robertio]

So, Carlton lost both games?

We were better in both games. just like you think you were better than Carlton even though you were above them for one week of a 24 week season.

 

[Robertio]

Try and show a bit more sensitivity here guys. You’ve got supporters of the last 2 premiers arguing with supporters of a team that hasn’t won one in 30 years. They’re bound to be a bit grumpy

The old "my team were premiers so i know better" post, don't you love Bigfooty.