Strategy CEO Thread - Jennifer Watt - Started Jan 2023

[Gippy Roo]

WTF? A Caro beat up

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Didn’t Laura Kane leave North to take a promotion to work in the AFL? Rated highly by North and others in the industry but not sure the shoe fits here? If it happens that Laura or any woman is a successful in going through the selection process and becoming our next CEO, it will be great as they will have proven to be the best person for the job, BUT, our next CEO will be the best fit and person for the job and should NEVER be determined by gender. Terrible take Caro!


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[Rod Stroker]

What's that got to do with their competency?

If they were any good (i.e competent) at being an AFL club CEO, don't you think we would have heard of them?

 

[Orange Peanut]

WTF? A Caro beat up

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Maybe she's just trolling Snake for the LOLs?

 

[bennymate]

WTF? A Caro beat up

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Kane and Brewer are the best of those bunch and I wouldn't be against consideration, however we desperately need some footy IQ in the role.

We would still have Kane if the AFL/Bard didn't **** us over (again!)

 

[the big lebowski]

Didn’t Laura Kane leave North to take a promotion to work in the AFL? Rated highly by North and others in the industry but not sure the shoe fits here? If it happens that Laura or any woman is a successful in going through the selection process and becoming our next CEO, it will be great as they will have proven to be the best person for the job, BUT, our next CEO will be the best fit and person for the job and should NEVER be determined by gender. Terrible take Caro!


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She said “I don’t mean this to be sexist”, and then proceeded to be sexist

 

[StiffArm]

I think it's fair enough to raise it as an issue. Most people don't even consider the posibility of a non penis-carrying member for the role, all should be considered and put through the same process to find the best candidate.

I'm quite strongly of the opinion that you don't want football people for the non-football roles.

 

[Rod Stroker]

I think it's fair enough to raise it as an issue. Most people don't even consider the posibility of a non penis-carrying member for the role, all should be considered and put through the same process to find the best candidate.

I'm quite strongly of the opinion that you don't want football people for the non-football roles.

2021 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2020 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2019 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2018 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2017 Premiers; CEO was a football person

If the Cats, Swans or Lions win this years flag
2022 Premiers; CEO was a football person

 

[Sillygit]

2021 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2020 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2019 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2018 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2017 Premiers; CEO was a football person

If the Cats, Swans or Lions win this years flag
2022 Premiers; CEO was a football person

what is a football person?

 

[StiffArm]

what is a football person?

Clive Waterhouse isn't it?

 

[Tas]

I think it's fair enough to raise it as an issue. Most people don't even consider the posibility of a non penis-carrying member for the role, all should be considered and put through the same process to find the best candidate.

I'm quite strongly of the opinion that you don't want football people for the non-football roles.

I don't think what the general public considers or doesn't consider matters.

I'd be happy to have Laura as our CEO, assuming she has the commercial expertise/experience to be able to direct our club to where we want to be. I was happy when we got Laura over from MU and she did a great job with putting together the AFLW team. I just don't know anything else about her and what she is capable of, what her vision is, etc. I don't really know who the others are.

Someone inexperienced in terms of football teams, like Ben, really needed someone experienced, like Walsh, to run the football department and make the calls on the hiring of football department staff, performance evaluation, etc. The fact we have needed a tsunami of external consultants to tell us we suck arse when we have won back to back spoons I think highlights the risk of putting people with the lack of football knowledge/experience in too many critical executive roles.

We've been a club that for more than two decades have been sucked in by powerpoint presentations, first interview with mates of the president, mates of the person you charged with finding a new coach. Nobody in two decades has had the stones to say, hang-on, this isn't an arms-length decision or what is the substance behind the bullshit. If you are biased because you have a relationship then you should be recused from any decision making process.

We've brought in almost everyone to help us, from Paul Roos to select the previous coach and "help" the board/executive, to Walsh to review the football department to someone else to give Sonja advice...

I think Sonja did a great job to bring in Clarkson and it probably averted a player crisis, but we can't forget that the committee that selected Noble in the first place was “Paul Roos, Ben Amarfio, Brady Rawlings, Glenn Archer, Sonja Hood and Terry Coyne from Leadership Advantage, as well as facilitator, Bruno Conti - partner at SHK Asia Pacific and North GM people & culture, Meg Lauritz"

I hope going from that shitshow to just handling the Clarkson appointment on her own was an important growing pain lesson. Sonja has a lot of experience with the club behind the scenes before she became a board member but I think she learnt some important lessons about who you gather around you and understanding the motivations of people who are giving you advice. It makes a huge impact in your decision making process. It was obvious that she learnt from that negative experience, thus the importance of experience.

It is not that people only consider men for these executive roles, we just had a long period of time when it was only men and we have a lot of valuable accumulated experience and knowledge. We don't want to bring people in who are going to repeat past mistakes because they are inexperienced. You don't have to be the CEO to figure out our last coach process was a trainwreck, there are a lot of lesser executive roles that allow you to generate valuable experience from other peoples mistakes. Women who are interested in one day being a CEO should make more of a push into the lesser roles for that pathway to the CEO role. The reality is that football executive roles pay poorly compared to the commercial world, most people who work in football understand they get way under market value but they do it for the love of being involved in the game. There are pathways there if people desire it. We don't have to just hand out the top jobs. They should go to experienced people who have been through the system.

For Caroline Wilson, it means nothing other than a status symbol. She wouldn't piss on our club if it was on fire so who gives a shit what she thinks we should do. The honeymoon period of a diversity hire lasts about a nanosecond. We had the first PoC CEO that I am aware of but it didn't stop the media leading the charge to get him sacked and Caroline Wilson was the standard bearer of that charge to get him sacked. So much for diversity. I actually feel bad for Ben, he came in right before Covid and he was just too inexperienced with running a football club, Buckley should have realised he would need a strong head of the football department to make football department decisions and we just filled the joint with nobody who knew what they were doing.

It is why it is critical we get put together a team that compliments each other and I think that is what Clarkson was talking about when he is talking about getting the right people for the executive roles.

 

[Rod Stroker]

what is a football person?

Someone (player, coach, etc) who's been on the "inside" and knows how a club is run day to day, but obviously has adequate commercial acumen as well.

 

[Kanga Glory]

BELL A LEADING CONTENDER FOR KANGAROOS’ TOP JOB

JON RALPH
FREMANTLE football manager Peter Bell is a strong contender to return to Arden St as the club’s new boss, as North Melbourne steps up its chase to replace chief executive Ben Amarfio.
The Roos will attempt to find a replacement for Amarfio by the end of October, with dual All-Australian midfielder Bell a strong candidate with immense football experience.
Bell made clear on Saturday he would consider an approach from the Roos, after a decorated 286-game career at North Melbourne and Fremantle.
When Alastair Clarkson arrived at North, it was with the undertaking he would have the support of a CEO with strong football expertise and his right-hand man in Todd Viney.
Bell, who has been in his current role for four years, has told friends he would like to one day run a club.
Brisbane chief executive Greg Swann has repeatedly denied any approach from the Roos. While he is settled at the Lions, his football acumen means he is always in demand.
Bell said pre-game on Saturday he would be “flattered” by an approach.
“I am not trying to be evasive, so my response to it is that I am so invested in what Fremantle are doing and will continue to be until the end of the year,” he told 3AW.
“If it comes to the end of the year, I would be extremely flattered if North Melbourne or any other club were interested in what I was doing.”
Roos president Sonja Hood confirmed in a letter to members on Monday the club would appoint a sub-committee of club executives for the CEO search, with Amarfio at the club until October 31.
She said former CEO Geoff Walsh’s report into the club’s football department was mostly positive, but made clear that the Roos should have only one football boss (now Viney) to whom the senior coach reported.

 

[roos 10]

Sign bell let’s move fwd all eggs lined up beautifully

 

[giantroo]

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[Sillygit]

Someone (player, coach, etc) who's been on the "inside" and knows how a club is run day to day, but obviously has adequate commercial acumen as well.

So, does laura kane's past roles fall under the etc?

 

[King Corey]

For those who love the Peter Bell as CEO idea, fill in the gaps for me please.

He's got some list management and footy ops experience from what I know. And yes, a law degree and think he was running some side business(es).

While he brings more football experience than Amarfio I can't see how he brings enough corporate/organisational leadership experience to go with it.

 

[r_boy]

I like the idea of a formal hiring process for this one.

There's no obvious person to headhunt.

 

[Zebrah]

For those who love the Peter Bell as CEO idea, fill in the gaps for me please.

He's got some list management and footy ops experience from what I know. And yes, a law degree and think he was running some side business(es).

While he brings more football experience than Amarfio but I can't see how he brings enough corporate/organisational leadership experience to go with it.

Similar experience to Euge when he took us over?

 

[blackshadow]

Similar experience to Euge when he took us over?

He'd be a fantastic mentor for Belly... I'd love to see Eugene on the board.

 

[King Corey]

Similar experience to Euge when he took us over?

Fwiw:

Eugene Arocca graduated from Monash University in 1983 with degrees in Jurisprudence and Law. In the same year, he started employment with Maurice Blackburn and was appointed partner at the firm in 1990. In 1996 he was appointed lawyer for the Collingwood Football Club where he also acted as a board member from 2002 - 2005.

In late 2005, he retired from both Maurice Blackburn as a senior partner and as a Collingwood board member to become Chief Operating Officer and Corporate Counsel for the Club. During that time, he oversaw the club’s growing interests in external and non-football commercial operations.

 

[Chadwiko]

2021 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2020 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2019 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2018 Premiers; CEO was a football person
2017 Premiers; CEO was a football person

If the Cats, Swans or Lions win this years flag
2022 Premiers; CEO was a football person

Please define "football person" for me.

 

[disco_cowboy]

Please define "football person" for me.

played football professionally is my guess

 

[Psicosis]

Is the Bell the well experienced grade of CEO we need presiding over Viney and Clarkson?

He's the type of strong personality that Viney & Clarkson will need. He is a savage operator.

 

[Psicosis]

For those who love the Peter Bell as CEO idea, fill in the gaps for me please.

He's got some list management and footy ops experience from what I know. And yes, a law degree and think he was running some side business(es).

While he brings more football experience than Amarfio I can't see how he brings enough corporate/organisational leadership experience to go with it.

Unfortunately there aren't that many candidates with both "elite" football & business experience. Brian Cook, Greg Swann, Brendan Gale, Peter Jackson are the names that come to mind.

I don't profess to know what Bell's business acumen is like, but his football acumen is as highly respected as any. I would see this appointment as similar to the Tom Harley appointment at Sydney. It can absolutely work if it's the right person.

If Bell does end up with the CEO role, the off-field stuff (at least from a financial perspective) is the best it's ever been. He will be able to shift a lot of his focus to the on-field stuff, which I think is what we need. Amarfio did a fantastic job from a commercial perspective, did he do a fantastic job from an organisational/leadership perspective? I don't think so. Obviously we also know that the football side of things wasn't a strength of his. For all I know, Bell could be excellent with the commercial side of things - The panel will decide that. There is always a slight risk with these appointments.

In summary, I suppose I'm okay with us shifting our focus to football for a few years.

 

[hsquid]

Please define "football person" for me.