WCE777
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WHY?
That's how you determine if a trade is fair value and assets given and received(picks).
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That's how you determine if a trade is fair value and assets given and received(picks).
You look at similar trades for A grade players who are uncontracted.
The old mate of a mate that knows a guy at the club that has access to players contracts
you are very privileged to be trusted with this info
The points are a terrible way to value trades. The later picks are worth far too few points, it has been balanced a bit as of 2025, but with the old points system you used, picks 24+25+26+27 are roughly worth pick 1. There isnt a single club that would do that trade.
The new model for the points system that has been "balanced", 18+19+21+22 is wroth about pick 1, no club would do that either normally
Exactly.
WCE777
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I have and that is how you determine a base price for said player.
Like I said previously, no player has been traded for 2 x top 5 picks.
Its all about determining the market value and demand for said player.
I should have said ordinarily, or in a normal scenario like I did in the example I made for the new points model.
North are a special case, they were desperate for a tall right now, and they might end up making finals yet
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The old mate of a mate that knows a guy at the club that has access to players contracts
you are very privileged to be trusted with this info
I am privileged
WCE777
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It is a base way to determine trade value of any player, obviously the calibre of player comes into final cost/picks.
The new model looks fairer.
No player has ever been traded or is worth 2 top 5 picks.
Its all about the value of said player and demand.
2 top 10 picks would be absolute top money/picks for someone of Warner's calibre.
That why Hawks 1st and WC F1st are fair value, pick 9-11 and future pick top 5.
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Hey ginger you are wrong as usual
All im saying is using the pick points values to value anything is a waste of time.
Its just not accurate.
Judd was traded for basically 2 top 5 picks btw, Kennedy was 2 years out of being a pick 4 having done nothing to devalue himself, and we got pick 3 as well
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apologies, you are correct on he Judd trade.
You have to use the points system to determine value, along with recent OOC players trades to determine fair value.
The Judd trade would be similar to Warner in age/profile/games played except Judd had was a Brownlow Medalist, AFLPA MVP, Norm Smith Medalist, 2 x club B&F, 2 x All Australian.
Warner has 1 All Australian in 2024 and 1 All Australian squad member in 2022 to his name, so too compare the 2 in a trade would be significantly different in value.
Again 2 top 10 picks would be full value for Warner, Hawks 1st(9-11) and WC F1st(5-7) if you are to compare and recent OOC players or trades.
Neale was traded for 6, 19 and 55 with a 30 returned back to Brisbane.
And he was contracted. At best for Sydney, it starts there.
Warner is not Judd, so comparing that trade is laughable. Dangerfield was 9 and 28. Whilst he was a free agent, Adelaide still had ability to match (something Warner can’t do).
Big money “transfers” do not attract that much in trade because of massive gain in cap that losing team gains. That has value.
And he was contracted. At best for Sydney, it starts there.
Warner is not Judd, so comparing that trade is laughable. Dangerfield was 9 and 28. Whilst he was a free agent, Adelaide still had ability to match (something Warner can’t do).
Big money “transfers” do not attract that much in trade because of massive gain in cap that losing team gains. That has value.
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agree on the Judd deal that's why I explained it with context.
Offering Hawks 1st and WC F1st is absolute top value.
No more and if that's the deal WC should be asking for something back imo, F2nd.
That’s not typically how smoothing out a contract works.
Normally an extra year or two is added on to the contract as well as an increase in the total value of the contract.
So a 4 year $4.8 million contract becomes a 5 year $5.5m contract.
No player is adding an extra year at the same total value, that’s just not how things work.
So, instead of earning $1.2m a year, the player now earns $1.1m a year, but gets an extra year.
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Do you know his contract
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Just don’t the points system. It’s seriously overrated later picks and each draft is very different.
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Weirdly enough Demons were demanding a top 5 pick and wanted Freo to use that offer to get them a top 5 pick, something they couldnt do. They were all in on George Wardlaw and couldnt get it done
I think a top 5 pick holds more value then 13 + f1st and F2nd . We just add F3rd to that deal and that will make up the trade
Pick 5 + F3rd for Warner feels about right
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He's uncontracted.Sydney are hardly in a position to demand anything more than a fair deal.
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I cant see a way that WC get Chad without giving up your own first round pick, which will probably be top 3.
This is the same club that gave up 14 for an uncontracted Baker
