Certified Legendary Thread Chapman, Roo, Fagan all of board must announce they will depart end of year.

[Vhaluus]

Not correct maybe you should look into it a bit further, and maybe just look at what the AFL expects clubs to do if they take the money.

Do enlighten me, what condition is so onerous that we should refuse the money?

 

[n4sir]

I saw Mrs Fagan at an open inspection a few weeks back, so either she was checking something out for a friend, or the Fagans plan on staying around a while longer

May also be getting ideas for what their place might be worth too...

 

[n4sir]

In fairness to Reid, he is only a negotiator. He order come from above and I would like to believe all negations would pass the scrutiny of the board. If he was told to get Gibbs at all costs, mission accomplished.

Reid is the list manager and part of that is management of the player salary cap - our list management disaster over the last few years starts and stops with him.

As for Gibbs, Reid was the initiator and worked on getting him to the Crows for over 12 months before Fagan was quoted as telling him to get it done - his personal relationship with Gibbs shouldn't be forgotten either.

 

[ad victoriam]

Do enlighten me, what condition is so onerous that we should refuse the money?

Enlighten yourself, for once, I am sure there is something written down out there, If not Ask the AFL or Fagan via email,

 

[Punchy Bassett]

If Trigg was brought in to replace Chapman, that'd be it for me. I'd never support the club again.

 

[Scorpus]

This is from the latest News Corp article on the camp:

News Corp can also reveal that Crows powerbrokers recently approached former club chief executive and salary cap cheat Steven Trigg about a potential return to replace Rob Chapman as chairman or to serve on the board.

Trigg, who would have returned as an AFL-appointed director, said it was not an official approach and he did not have time to return to West Lakes in any capacity.

“It is flattering if that’s being thought about by anyone, but the reality is I have so much to do in my professional life at the moment I just don’t have time,” Trigg said.

 

[Scorpus]

Even the fact they considered (and worse, approached) Trigg is unacceptable. Sack the lot of them

 

[Pugsley]

This is from the latest News Corp article on the camp:

Either would supporters to renew membership if you did have the time Trigg.

 

[Vhaluus]

Enlighten yourself, for once, I am sure there is something written down out there, If not Ask the AFL or Fagan via email,

You are very consistant and very predictable.

Always make these super vague claims and when you're challenged to back them up with evidence you can't.

You're asking me to prove a negative. If I search and find nothing you'll just say it's because I didn't look well enough. It's like telling someone to disprove god.

YOU are the one making the claim, it is on YOU to back it up if you want people to believe you. (also before you go 'well I dont need you to believe me' as your inevitable counter argument, if you didn't want people to consider what you had to say you wouldn't have posted it at all).

 

[Vhaluus]

Even the fact they considered (and worse, approached) Trigg is unacceptable. Sack the lot of them

The fact Trigg was the most sensible one of the lot and turned it down speaks volumes about their incompetence.

Trigg didn't turn it down because he was too busy in his professional life, he turned it down because he realized it'd be hugely damaging to him.

 

[1970crow]

Not correct maybe you should look into it a bit further, and maybe just look at what the AFL expects clubs to do if they take the money.

what does the afl expect clubs to do?

 

[1970crow]

Reid is the list manager and part of that is management of the player salary cap - our list management disaster over the last few years starts and stops with him.

As for Gibbs, Reid was the initiator and worked on getting him to the Crows for over 12 months before Fagan was quoted as telling him to get it done - his personal relationship with Gibbs shouldn't be forgotten either.

no it doesn't, that's absurdly simplistic. There's numerous people who sit on a list management committee that jointly make the decisions. Reid executes those decisions on behalf of the committee.

 

[1970crow]

Enlighten yourself, for once, I am sure there is something written down out there, If not Ask the AFL or Fagan via email,

you've got nothing, admit it. You've been sold a lie by those who don't want the AFL to see the wastage outside of the footy dept. Provide us with these onerous conditions.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

you've got nothing, admit it. You've been sold a lie by those who don't want the AFL to see the wastage outside of the footy dept. Provide us with these onerous conditions.

For one, any club that takes the AFL loan has to submit a weekly budget and the AFL have the power to veto any spending.

 

[Vhaluus]

For one, any club that takes the AFL loan has to submit a weekly budget and the AFL have the power to veto any spending.

If we have no wasteful spending why is this an issue?

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

If we have no wasteful spending why is this an issue?

Wasteful in who’s view?

Is the esports and baseball wasteful?

 

[Vhaluus]

Wasteful in who’s view?

Is the esports and baseball wasteful?

... yes, it quite clearly is.

 

[1970crow]

For one, any club that takes the AFL loan has to submit a weekly budget and the AFL have the power to veto any spending.

So? How would that impact a well run club that makes good decisions with their money?

 

[1970crow]

Wasteful in who’s view?

Is the esports and baseball wasteful?

It is if they're draining cash. What other purpose do they serve if not to generate cash flow?

 

[n4sir]

This is from the latest News Corp article on the camp:

"News Corp can also reveal that Crows powerbrokers recently approached former club chief executive and salary cap cheat Steven Trigg about a potential return to replace Rob Chapman as chairman or to serve on the board.

Trigg, who would have returned as an AFL-appointed director, said it was not an official approach and he did not have time to return to West Lakes in any capacity.

“It is flattering if that’s being thought about by anyone, but the reality is I have so much to do in my professional life at the moment I just don’t have time,” Trigg said."

Far out, it never surprises me just how deluded some of these people are!

It's times like this I miss the "vomit" emoticon.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

... yes, it quite clearly is.

Well the club clearly doesn’t think so which is why they did it

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

It is if they're draining cash. What other purpose do they serve if not to generate cash flow?

Let’s play hypotheticals.

The crows submit a weekly cash flow showing $25,000 going out for a moving bonus for John Worsfold to come over as Football Director

AFL says no. We have Ben Hart who is perfectly adequate.

You’re fine with that obviously.

 

[Vhaluus]

Well the club clearly doesn’t think so which is why they did it

The Club also thought the Gibbs trade was a good idea.

 

[GreyCrow]

Finicially the Club has preformed, well enough to allow the Crows to refuse the AFL COVID Bail out and go there own way.

Thats rubbish. All we have done is gone outside the AFL for a loan.

 

[Scrogdogg]

In fairness to Reid, he is only a negotiator. He order come from above and I would like to believe all negations would pass the scrutiny of the board. If he was told to get Gibbs at all costs, mission accomplished.

Yes I take your point. But he stuffed his first attempt with Gibbs and he has to be more than just a messenger boy.