Chappelli hits out at our lost aura

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He seems to be in a combative mood of late.

Aussies lose invincibility
Jon Pierik

FORMER captain Ian Chappell has accused Australia of arrogance and stupidity and says Ricky Ponting's team has lost its world champion aura.
Chappell says Australia's priority when it lands in the Caribbean this week for the World Cup must be to settle on its best team after a summer of tinkering with the line-up.
Australia has two practice matches -- against Zimbabwe and England -- before it plays group matches against Scotland, the Netherlands and South Africa.
"Australia's first priority in the Caribbean is to settle on their best side," Chappell said.
"Thanks to a dangerous mixture of arrogance and stupidity during the Commonwealth Bank Series, Australia fiddled rather than found their best combination and then the coach incited the opposition by indulging in ridicule.
"Now they find themselves unsure of who are the best bowlers in the final overs and they are also struggling to unearth a spinner to take a wicket or two in the middle overs after the power plays.
"This is a crucial role and if Australia can't find someone to do the job with (Andrew) Symonds injured, they'll constantly encounter big targets or have their totals, even the larger ones, chased down."
Symonds, recovering from a repaired torn bicep, isn't expected to play at least until the start of the Super 8 stage.
After losing the tri-series finals to England and surrendering the Chappell-Hadlee Trophy 3-0 in New Zealand, the Australian brains trust has much to think about before the 15-man squad leaves on Wednesday.
The return of skipper Ricky Ponting, Michael Clarke and Adam Gilchrist, who will arrive late but in time for next week's first practice match, will provide a crucial boost, but Brett Lee's ankle injury has robbed the team of arguably its most important bowler.
While the Australians may return to form after losing five straight games, Chappell said the loss of reputation would linger longer.
"Australia are now not only a team searching for answers and confidence but are also a side whose aura has faded," he wrote in London's Sunday Telegraph. "This lack of an air of invincibility will be the hardest thing to rediscover.
"There is no doubt Ponting and Gilchrist will still greatly worry opponents and there'll be plenty of racing pulses among the fielding side while they are still at the crease.
"However, there's no longer a Shane Warne to send tremors through a batting line-up and with Lee not there to intimidate and Glenn McGrath a receding force, the Australia attack no longer strikes fear into an opponent -- ask New Zealand."
 

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He seems to be in a combative mood of late
Chappelli has always been combative.

As for our coach he should have kept his mouth shut like he has done for years. The moment he started publicly stitshirring England and NZ recently it ignited their passion and we lost ours. Chappelli has always been of the opinion that Buchanan was way overated and I tend to agree.
 
Chappelli has always been combative.

As for our coach he should have kept his mouth shut like he has done for years. The moment he started publicly stitshirring England and NZ recently it ignited their passion and we lost ours. Chappelli has always been of the opinion that Buchanan was way overated and I tend to agree.

i once heard chappelli say " john buchanan's job should be making sure all the training balls get back in the bag after a net session!" i think warnie would agree.
 
He gets his name in the paper after every Australian loss enlightening us all on how we went wrong and which decisions killed us.

We should get his thoughts on selections and tactics before a game without the benefit of hindsight.

He might not have as much to say then...
 
Its possible its true, withthe recent retirements we arent the side we were. 12 years is a long time at the top in any sport and while it sucks we may drop down a rung or two it was always going to happen sooner or later.

Still have some confidence in our test side doing well but our one day team slooks to be gathering speed down the hill
 
as Likka said, Chappelli uses the power of hindsight so I thought I'd run his comments through the same 'after-the-fact' analysis

Chappell said:
"Thanks to a dangerous mixture of arrogance and stupidity during the Commonwealth Bank Series, Australia fiddled rather than found their best combination and then the coach incited the opposition by indulging in ridicule.
"Now they find themselves unsure of who are the best bowlers in the final overs and they are also struggling to unearth a spinner to take a wicket or two in the middle overs after the power plays.
"This is a crucial role and if Australia can't find someone to do the job with (Andrew) Symonds injured, they'll constantly encounter big targets or have their totals, even the larger ones, chased down."
"Australia are now not only a team searching for answers and confidence but are also a side whose aura has faded"

Bowling: Tait is slotting in nicely for Lee, McGrath no spent force, Bracken showing his long-held reputation for one-day bowling and now Hoggy coming into some form...hell even Watson has been ok

Batting: Hayden has the aura of three Chappellis, everyone else performing their role, hussey down by his own standards in the hurly-burly but he is our finisher will stand up when it counts

Fielding: top shelf, at least as good as any nation and probably better than all, Hodge is our 12th man and he is a sensational outfielder

Leadership: Ponting has been decisive, assertive and confident - he parried a few low blows from Sunil (shame, Sunil, shame...you flithy corrupt teapot) and had the team focused and fit

Preparation: well, we look a lot fresher now that we're not training insane number of hours just as many predicted (without hindsight) they would, it's called load testing and it appears to be working - we appear to be playing in our middle gears while other teams have already spectacularly crashed and burned - i think we still have another level of intensity in reserve

Verdict: still a long way to go and things may yet go pear-shaped but i think we've seen enough to know that the "arrogance and stupidity" call is looking arrogant and stupid :rolleyes:

sorry chappelli - you've had one pint too many!
 
as Likka said, Chappelli uses the power of hindsight so I thought I'd run his comments through the same 'after-the-fact' analysis



Bowling: Tait is slotting in nicely for Lee, McGrath no spent force, Bracken showing his long-held reputation for one-day bowling and now Hoggy coming into some form...hell even Watson has been ok

Batting: Hayden has the aura of three Chappellis, everyone else performing their role, hussey down by his own standards in the hurly-burly but he is our finisher will stand up when it counts

Fielding: top shelf, at least as good as any nation and probably better than all, Hodge is our 12th man and he is a sensational outfielder

Leadership: Ponting has been decisive, assertive and confident - he parried a few low blows from Sunil (shame, Sunil, shame...you flithy corrupt teapot) and had the team focused and fit

Preparation: well, we look a lot fresher now that we're not training insane number of hours just as many predicted (without hindsight) they would, it's called load testing and it appears to be working - we appear to be playing in our middle gears while other teams have already spectacularly crashed and burned - i think we still have another level of intensity in reserve

Verdict: still a long way to go and things may yet go pear-shaped but i think we've seen enough to know that the "arrogance and stupidity" call is looking arrogant and stupid :rolleyes:

sorry chappelli - you've had one pint too many!

I am not sure what you on about beatnik. It seems to me they have taken chappells advice on board. His main point is to play the best side every game and don't think that they are so good that the can chop and change every match. They are now doing this and the results have been spot on. Chappell seemed to be on the money with many of his points. The side is definately doing things differently than they were in the VB series.
 

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I am not sure what you on about beatnik. It seems to me they have taken chappells advice on board. His main point is to play the best side every game and don't think that they are so good that the can chop and change every match. They are now doing this and the results have been spot on. Chappell seemed to be on the money with many of his points. The side is definately doing things differently than they were in the VB series.


We all know that was going to happen anyway?
 
The funny thing is that Chappelli always defends his brother Greg in the Indian coaching role, despite the fact that Greg's reign has been one of the most miserable periods in India's recent history. Greg was hated as coach of South Australia too.
 
The funny thing is that Chappelli always defends his brother Greg in the Indian coaching role, despite the fact that Greg's reign has been one of the most miserable periods in India's recent history. Greg was hated as coach of South Australia too.


I think Ian believes that the Indian cattle is overrated though.

They were the first Indian team to win a series in the WI for 34 years and the first to win a test in SA. At least he achieved something in his time there.
 
The funny thing is that Chappelli always defends his brother Greg in the Indian coaching role, despite the fact that Greg's reign has been one of the most miserable periods in India's recent history. Greg was hated as coach of South Australia too.

Yes he screwed us over big time :mad: . Anywhere he goes he f***s that team up - hopefully he goes to England or VIC ;)
 
I am not sure what you on about beatnik. It seems to me they have taken chappells advice on board. His main point is to play the best side every game and don't think that they are so good that the can chop and change every match. They are now doing this and the results have been spot on. Chappell seemed to be on the money with many of his points. The side is definately doing things differently than they were in the VB series.

read it again ant :rolleyes:

ian's reaction was over the top and based on a fairly shallow theory - that the Aussies had lost some sort of magical 'aura'

he was unable to see the bigger picture as the truth was that the aussies were working to a plan:

* to get a look at some new players and see how they responded under pressure

* to load test through those early series and then taper to ensure peak physical conditioning

* to rest some specific key players before the big one - the world cup

the plan appears to be working and i guarantee it had nil, zero, zip to do with chappelli's comments

in fact, yesterday Ponting specifically thumbed his nose to those who had carried on about lost auras and fear factor - can't help but think a fair portion of that was aimed at one Mr I.Chappell :p

as King Elvis said, the Aussies were always going to settle on their line-up at the WC...that was the whole point of the experimentation - what are you on about? :confused:
 
read it again ant :rolleyes:

ian's reaction was over the top and based on a fairly shallow theory - that the Aussies had lost some sort of magical 'aura'

he was unable to see the bigger picture as the truth was that the aussies were working to a plan:

* to get a look at some new players and see how they responded under pressure

* to load test through those early series and then taper to ensure peak physical conditioning

* to rest some specific key players before the big one - the world cup

the plan appears to be working and i guarantee it had nil, zero, zip to do with chappelli's comments

in fact, yesterday Ponting specifically thumbed his nose to those who had carried on about lost auras and fear factor - can't help but think a fair portion of that was aimed at one Mr I.Chappell :p

as King Elvis said, the Aussies were always going to settle on their line-up at the WC...that was the whole point of the experimentation - what are you on about? :confused:

I don't buy that for one second. This Australian side is out to win everything.

Australia thought they could win both local(australasian)series with what was not the best side. I believe that this was a bit arrogant.
I think they have now settled on the one side because chopping and changing was not working. I also don't think the bowling attack is not what it used to be. Even again Sth africa for 30 overs the bowling looked very average. Sth Africa threw that one away as they are weak minded when it comes to playing the Aussies.

I don't for one second think that they changed the plan because of chappell, he was merly saying what others where and I think many(not all) of his points where valid.

I did not see anywhere in the article chappell suggesting we are not going to win the world cup or are not still the best team in the world. I believe we are the best and are favs to win the world cup but I agree with chappell that the side does not have quite the same aura as it did in previous years.
 
I don't buy that for one second. This Australian side is out to win everything.

it's like the NAB pre-season cup...every time you step on the park you play to win

that doesn't mean that you would risk playing slightly unfit or exhausted players for an NAB game...you play the young fellas and get some experience into them

you would risk them for an AFL grand final though (lappin played with punctured lung FFS)

Australia thought they could win both local(australasian)series with what was not the best side. I believe that this was a bit arrogant.

ok fine...believe that if you insist but I am interested in what makes you think you know their intentions better than the players and coaching staff themselves? :rolleyes:

I also don't think the bowling attack is not what it used to be. Even again Sth africa for 30 overs the bowling looked very average

of course it's not what it used to be - it comprises different bowlers :confused:

if the Aussies were average for 30 overs then the Saffers were woeful for 50!

so was the bowling average for 30 overs or did the saffers just throw caution to the win and take huge risks? that style of game is fraught with danger as the odds dictate you will eventually be caught short

at the very least, the flip side of your argument is that the Asussie bowling was devastatingly good for 20 overs :rolleyes:

Sth Africa threw that one away as they are weak minded when it comes to playing the Aussies.

personally i think SA are weak-minded as team. period.

that is beside the point however, the real issue is whether they 'threw it away' as you asserted - chasing 370+ even on that ground is a mammoth task and one that was clearly beyond even the deep batting lineup of SA

i think only the most naive or one-eyed judge would say that SA were in a position to throw the game away - most learned cricket judges would characterise the saffers as giving a 'spirited performance before succumbing to the overwhelming task of matching Australia's scoreboard pressure'

I don't for one second think that they changed the plan because of chappell, he was merly saying what others where and I think many(not all) of his points where valid.

and yet that's exactly what you said :confused:

I did not see anywhere in the article chappell suggesting we are not going to win the world cup or are not still the best team in the world. I believe we are the best and are favs to win the world cup but I agree with chappell that the side does not have quite the same aura as it did in previous years.

no-one is disputing that we don't have the same aura - just that is patently wrong to imply we have lost it!

you are misrepresenting what Chappell said - don't seek to dilute his (and your) comments by choosing the softer phrase 'does not have quite the same' aura

Ian clearly stated that we had lost our aura and that teams did not fear us any longer...which has proven to be a load of BS...just ask graeme smith, brian lara and any captain about to take on Australia
 

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