Certified Legendary Thread China History in the Making

[RussellEbertHandball]

Another new one on that game partners list



https://risino.co/

The aim of Risino is to revolutionize the provenance, protection, and trading of fine art by breaking down the barriers which have kept the industry insulated from the technological advancements that have transformed other markets such as company stocks, bonds, commodities and real estate.

Risino intends on becoming the world’s preeminent service for providing high income return on rare Chinese antiques; ultimately fashioning a new ecology raised of a collaboration between blockchain technology and the fine arts market. This will involve further development of the platform from initially being b2p to enable p2p functionality.

They are Melbourne based.

 

[GranFormaggi]

We stayed at the Metropole last year. Not a bad place, reasonably close to public transport but not so sure about bars as the only bar we went to was found accidentally (google maps, or whatever we used said it was the camel bar but no such luck). Instead of heading to the Camel Bar we decided to stay there it was that good. The owner is from Leeds, and has a heap of memorabilia on the walls, so I am sure he will have the game on. Plenty of TVs and bloody good food. When we told him we were staying he simply opened a tab for us which we fixed up when we left - I think.

I would suggest you try The Camel Bar first though to see if it will be shown there. There will be plenty of Port people there.

Around the Metropole there are some decent restaurants. Try Grandmothers, as you come out of the hotel go lefty out will not be disappointed.

This sounds familiar. I provided this to some mates headed there this year.

"we ended up at the old location that has since been turned into a British Pub (The Red Lion 84 Weifang W Road). The guy there had about 8000 pirate channels, so he looked after us with the footy, food and beer wise. We had a good time there.

If however you want to go to the The Camel Sports Bar & Kitchen, it is supposedly at 1 Yue Yang Lu (near Dongping Lu), Shanghai. There is a Friday night event there for $85."

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

https://www.saints.com.au/news/2019-05-30/saints-announce-new-matchday-partners-for-shanghai-cla

Saints announce new match-day partners for Shanghai clash
May 30, 2019 3:12PM

St Kilda Football Club is proud to welcome new match-day partners for their first AFL match in Shanghai on Sunday.

Players and coaches left for China today supported by Woodside Energy, Monash University, Swisse, Zhaopin and Jinhang Lighting and Electrical.

CEO Matt Finnis said growing the club’s commercial partnership base was an important element to the club’s decision to play in Shanghai.

“Playing in China has already provided a platform to work with a number of prominent Australian organisations who do business in China,” Finnis said.

“We are excited to announce Woodside Energy and Monash University as new partners of the Saints’ involvement in Shanghai, alongside partners Swisse, Jinhang Lighting and Electrical and Zhaopin.”

Match day partners - that is relatively small beer unless they sign up for longer deals.

This bit shows they are trying a bit harder than GC.

Finnis said the club would be joined by more than 80 business leaders in China from Wednesday for the inaugural Saints in Shanghai Business Delegation. “We have been overwhelmed by the response and are excited to be connecting with our partners to the Chinese business community," he said.

“A key component of our decision to play in Shanghai is the support of the Victorian Government who we have partnered with to promote trade and investment between China and Victoria.

 

[Janus]

Which company, in which episode/scene??

The main one.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

The main one.

Ah that one. Thought you were referring to another one.

 

[TeeKray]

It's good that St Kilda are actually making an effort with this themselves rather than just accepting a pay cheque and pissing off as a certain other club was happy to do.

 

[Garibaldi Red]

This sounds familiar. I provided this to some mates headed there this year.

"we ended up at the old location that has since been turned into a British Pub (The Red Lion 84 Weifang W Road). The guy there had about 8000 pirate channels, so he looked after us with the footy, food and beer wise. We had a good time there.

Did you pay the tab? It was a good night wasn’t it? Still have a laugh at the conversations with the Scottish blokes from Netherfiekd (I am sure this was a company and not my home suburb) and then the Mackem bloke who loved working in SE Asia, been to NZ and “wouldn’t step into Oz if you paid him”.

 

[El Zorro]

Are people from AUS still going to this or has the interest died out already?

 

[Prison bar Pete]

Are people from AUS still going to this or has the interest died out already?

My ancient father-in-law is on the way, and he's one of those barrack-for-both-SA-teams kind of guy

 

[PowerBaz]

My ancient father-in-law is on the way, and he's one of those barrack-for-both-SA-teams kind of guy

Ken Cunningham?

 

[Lockhart Road]

Ken Cunningham?

David Koch.

 

[OneGreatClub]

It's good that St Kilda are actually making an effort with this themselves rather than just accepting a pay cheque and pissing off as a certain other club was happy to do.

I agree. GCS were acting like entitled spoiled brats.

 

[Rexie J]

My ancient father-in-law is on the way, and he's one of those barrack-for-both-SA-teams kind of guy

Ancient - probably late 40's early 50's

 

[Prison bar Pete]

Ancient - probably late 40's early 50's

if only

 

[Rexie J]

if only

Totally understand

 

[GranFormaggi]

Did you pay the tab? It was a good night wasn’t it? Still have a laugh at the conversations with the Scottish blokes from Netherfiekd (I am sure this was a company and not my home suburb) and then the Mackem bloke who loved working in SE Asia, been to NZ and “wouldn’t step into Oz if you paid him”.

I don't recall paying the tab. Nor recall the cab ride back to the hotel. Nor any "business proposition" on the walk back to the hotel from the FamilyMart.

 

[Chrizzt]

It's good that St Kilda are actually making an effort with this themselves rather than just accepting a pay cheque and pissing off as a certain other club was happy to do.

Yep. Our opponent doing well off the match bodes well for us to - increased momentum for keeping the game going.

 

[Janus]

Here's an article written by Andrew Hunter.

https://indaily.com.au/opinion/2019/05/31/understanding-the-key-to-deepening-china-relationship/

"This year, the AFL match will be the final event of the Festival of Australia, a two-week program of activity. More than 40 events have taken place across 10 cities. The AFL match between Port Adelaide and St Kilda at the Adelaide Arena at Jiangwan Stadium on Sunday is the last event on the program, and has attracted Australia’s new Minister for Sport, Tasmanian Senator Richard Colbeck.

It will be an apt end to the Festival of Australia, which promotes Australia’s commercial as well as cultural strengths. The AFL game is sold out. The gala dinner, also, is sold out.

Many of the significant economic actors in the bilateral relationship will be present with companies including Cochlear, Rio Tinto and Penfolds present. Some heavyweights of the Chinese business community will also present, including Sinopec and Shanghai Electric. And, of course, Gui Guojie and Sanjeev Gupta will be there."

Shanghai Electric...a company that is related to StateNet through the supply of equipment for all their switchrooms in substations etc.

Curioser and curioser.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

 

[Lockhart Road]

https://indaily.com.au/opinion/2019/05/31/understanding-the-key-to-deepening-china-relationship/

‘Peter Arkell is managing director of China-based consulting company Carrington Day. He speaks of the need to cultivate a deeper understanding of China.

‘“I cannot think of a single ASX 200 company that has an independent board director who has current on-the-ground experience in China,” he laments. “If that’s the case, there is no major Australian listed company that has serious awareness or ‘granular feel’ at the board level for the China market.”’

(Using that as a benchmark explains why unaware non-serious PAFC have no such person on their board either.)

 

[Janus]

https://indaily.com.au/opinion/2019/05/31/understanding-the-key-to-deepening-china-relationship/

‘Peter Arkell is managing director of China-based consulting company Carrington Day. He speaks of the need to cultivate a deeper understanding of China.

‘“I cannot think of a single ASX 200 company that has an independent board director who has current on-the-ground experience in China,” he laments. “If that’s the case, there is no major Australian listed company that has serious awareness or ‘granular feel’ at the board level for the China market.”’

(Using that as a benchmark explains why unaware non-serious PAFC have no such person on their board either.)

Maybe the club is addressing that fact, and that's why Hunter includes this in his article?

Carrington Day is an executive head-hunting firm - one of their services is specifically about finding board directors:

"At the centre of a company’s strategic planning are the board of directors who assess risk, look for growth and return for shareholders. There has never been a market emerge that can match the China story of the 2000’s. Yet few international boards have non-executive directors (NED’s) who have current “touch” for China. Strategy and risk assessment at the board table should include real-time on-the-ground background in China. Carrington Day has the China networks to deliver the breadth and depth of NED China expertise for international boards."

 

[Alberton Proud]

It's good that St Kilda are actually making an effort with this themselves rather than just accepting a pay cheque and pissing off as a certain other club was happy to do.

Agreed

Will make the long term viability of the match significantly better

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

https://indaily.com.au/opinion/2019/05/31/understanding-the-key-to-deepening-china-relationship/

‘Peter Arkell is managing director of China-based consulting company Carrington Day. He speaks of the need to cultivate a deeper understanding of China.

‘“I cannot think of a single ASX 200 company that has an independent board director who has current on-the-ground experience in China,” he laments. “If that’s the case, there is no major Australian listed company that has serious awareness or ‘granular feel’ at the board level for the China market.”’

(Using that as a benchmark explains why unaware non-serious PAFC have no such person on their board either.)

Maybe the club is addressing that fact, and that's why Hunter includes this in his article?

Carrington Day is an executive head-hunting firm - one of their services is specifically about finding board directors:

"At the centre of a company’s strategic planning are the board of directors who assess risk, look for growth and return for shareholders. There has never been a market emerge that can match the China story of the 2000’s. Yet few international boards have non-executive directors (NED’s) who have current “touch” for China. Strategy and risk assessment at the board table should include real-time on-the-ground background in China. Carrington Day has the China networks to deliver the breadth and depth of NED China expertise for international boards."

I've said it before, and will say it again and the club should go and talk to Clinton Dines about getting him on the board or as a China consultant.

Went to China in 1979, with assistance from Griffith Uni as he went there on a post graduate scholarship worked for a few companies including Jardine Matheson Group, and a venture capital group, in 1988 was appointed BHP's China President, screamed at HQ to run harder in the early 2000's before and during the mining boom. he spent 21 years in that job and then between mid 2009- December 2014 he was with a global investment fund based in Shanghai.

The Kiwis are smart. They signed a free trade agreement with the Chinese before Oz, got a better deal than Oz did, according to my sister who is a WTO legal expert, especially for agricultural products access. Fonterra Co-operative group Ltd has employed Dines as non executive director since he returned to Brisbane in 2015.

Fonterra is one of the biggest NZ companies, depending on what measure you use, but they are responsible for 30% of the world's dairy exports and the biggest NZ company by revenue and 2nd or 3rd by employees. Diary product exports to China and HK are the biggest part of their exports.

https://www.griffith.edu.au/about-g...rganisation/council-profiles/mr-clinton-dines

and
https://www.linkedin.com/in/clinton-dines-00882157/?originalSubdomain=au

After 35 years in China for myself (and nearly 30 years for my wife) we decided that the time had come. We moved to Australia at the end of 2014 and are now based in Brisbane. We had a great ride in China, an incredible life experience and we fully intend to be regular visitors in the future but the needs of the family come first and our children are at important stages in their lives and educations. I am continuing in various non-executive and advisory roles, some corporate, some not-for-profit, and hopefully I can make a contribution to the broader discussion about Australia's relationship with China while assisting organizations with their understanding of China and the issues associated with operating in a challenging environment in a critical market/economy. China is in yet another phase of transition - politically, economically, developmentally - and, as always, there is a wide range of interpretations of the significance of what we observe in the political shifts, stated policy intent and the likely outcomes, for China and for the rest of us impacted by China. The China story has a long way to go, all the effects are yet to become apparent but we will all be effected. I shall continue to be a very keen observer, wherever I am.......


Some of his non-executive voluntary activities shows he gets the community stuff

• Sport for All Foundation – Founding Member, Executive Committee – Children’s Sports Charity Shanghai [June 2010-Dec2014]
• Shanghai Community Sports Club [formerly Shanghai Rugby Football Club] President – Community Sports organization and club facilities Shanghai [Apr 2003-Dec 2014]
• The Capital Club Beijing - Founding Governor – Business and Community Club Beijing [1994-current]

 

[Enviable Tradition]

It's good that St Kilda are actually making an effort with this themselves rather than just accepting a pay cheque and pissing off as a certain other club was happy to do.

I think it is being driven by the Vic Government more so than St Kilda.

On SM-G960F using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Lockhart Road]

https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode/379990

This interview with Andrew Hunter on SEN is symptomatic of the commercial half of the Club’s China Strategy, Koch’s visibility and voice this year, and prospects for Ken Hinkley’s senior coaching career ... all comes to a sudden end.

I have no problem with two out of three of the above.

In the couple of minutes during which there actually is an interv—- what is revealed as far as sponsors go is 1) Penfolds 2) Tuna and 3) Jincheng Group who are apparently still alive, gone missing but still alive.

Nothing new.

Andrew says something about Port people not understanding why it’s necessary to keep what’s going on a big secret, but I couldn’t follow a word of it.