Resource Hinkleyball - A Short History

[Windy Cindy]

It was a win, but what about the showdown that motlop won.. 20 odd points up? With 5 mins to go and needed a piece of individual brilliance to win what we should have won comfortably..

 

[tribey]

The club didn't even remember the Ben "Showbiz" Brown game the following season after they shafted stand-in captain Howard. They tried gaslighting the BF roundtable that Doogs was playing on Brown that game when he didn't even play.

I remember hearing that. Ol’ Keef.

 

[Doctor Feel]

I remember hearing that. Ol’ Keef.

Lmao. Put Howard in the bin because he cant defend himself.

 

[longdonkey]

Can we expand the definition of Hinkleyball to include those games we lose because an opposition player has a career-best game against us, never to be seen again? We do have a habit of making street buskers look like Taylor Swift.

Silvagni and Motlop

 

[JimmyBC]

Sideshow Ben must lick his lips when he see's us on his schedule.

Imagine being fodder for that soft as fukc pretender

 

[Chewy316]

I was a bit slower than most to realise Ken wouldn't lead this team to win a flag - for me, it was the 2019 game against GWS when they bombed it aimlessly to Haynes and Davis in that final quarter.

Incredibly, 4 and a half years on and nothing has changed to the gameplan surrounding the quality of the forward 50 entries.

Hinkleyball to me will always mean "close, but no cigar." Forever a belief that close enough is good enough.

 

[Fizzler]

Does the Russell Ebert tribute game against Hawthorn count?

This one is peak-Hinkleyball for me. Don't think I've ever felt quite as disgusted by a performance as I did in that one. I'm not someone who leaves games early, but that one really would've been pushing the limits had I been able to attend.

 

[GoPorts]

You can add in the complete inability to make changes mid game. Like continuing to kick it to Gawn, McGovern or any other player lining up to break the AFL intercept mark record against us.

 

[TeeKray]

This game really shouldn't be listed in the Hinkley stuff ups. We lost Ryder, Houston and Dixon to injuries during this match. And were overrun by a team that just had more fit players.

Lol we were 2 goals in front with like 40 seconds to play with the ball in our forward line and somehow they managed to kick 2 goals to win the game. It's in.

 

[PowerBaz]

I was a bit slower than most to realise Ken wouldn't lead this team to win a flag - for me, it was the 2019 game against GWS when they bombed it aimlessly to Haynes and Davis in that final quarter.

Incredibly, 4 and a half years on and nothing has changed to the gameplan surrounding the quality of the forward 50 entries.

Hinkleyball to me will always mean "close, but no cigar." Forever a belief that close enough is good enough.

Look at how much recruiting goes into drafting backmen, midfielders yet our forward line just seems to roll on each year with hardly any change, feels that way and the outcome is the same.

Ken literally thinks just doing the same thing will work out eventually.

Everybody canned Bass, nothings really changed at all, it’s all on Ken.

 

[Chewy316]

Look at how much recruiting goes into drafting backmen, midfielders yet our forward line just seems to roll on each year with hardly any change, feels that way and the outcome is the same.

Ken literally thinks just doing the same thing will work out eventually.

Everybody canned Bass, nothings really changed at all, it’s all on Ken.

The personnel isn't the problem.

Dixon, Marshall and Finlayson/Georgiades are a very good trip of KPFs. SPP is one of the better high half forwards in the entire comp, and Rioli is a solid (at worst) small forward. Even DBJ this year has been doing his bit.

The issue has always been the methodology entering the forward 50. That has very little to do with personnel - though I suspect they are fans of the bomb it high and deep to minimise the amount of running Charlie has to do (I'm speculating).

What is clearly evident is that this game style entering the forward 50 is never going to win a flag.

 

[PowerBaz]

The personnel isn't the problem.

Dixon, Marshall and Finlayson/Georgiades are a very good trip of KPFs. SPP is one of the better high half forwards in the entire comp, and Rioli is a solid (at worst) small forward. Even DBJ this year has been doing his bit.

The issue has always been the methodology entering the forward 50. That has very little to do with personnel - though I suspect they are fans of the bomb it high and deep to minimise the amount of running Charlie has to do (I'm speculating).

What is clearly evident is that this game style entering the forward 50 is never going to win a flag.

Agreed.

 

[longdonkey]

Lol we were 2 goals in front with like 40 seconds to play with the ball in our forward line and somehow they managed to kick 2 goals to win the game. It's in.

I've managed to purge that game from my brain unless its the one where we got torched by Danyle Pearce.

 

[ibd77]

It's been like a drive across the Hay Plains in a 1968 Toyota Crown

In 45 degrees with no AC.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Another Hinkley ball special and one I haven’t seen in any other team, is the complete reluctance of our forwards to take the set shot.

Doesn’t matter who it is. Tall, small or inbetween. In front or angle, anyone from 35m+ looks to pass it off.

Then not only do they usually try to pass it off, they then miss the kick and turn it over or kick it to a worse position on a greater angle.

Just have confidence in yourself to take the goddam shot as a forward. Those that settle on taking the shot then just look so devoid of any confidence in themselves to take the shot. Even someone like Marshall who is usually a deadeye, often is found looking to pass off when he’s marked inside 50.

Has to be a team direction. That many players can’t simply not want to take the kick.

 

[longdonkey]

Another Hinkley ball special and one I haven’t seen in any other team, is the complete reluctance of our forwards to take the set shot.

Doesn’t matter who it is. Tall, small or inbetween. In front or angle, anyone from 35m+ looks to pass it off.

Then not only do they usually try to pass it off, they then miss the kick and turn it over or kick it to a worse position on a greater angle.

Just have confidence in yourself to take the goddam shot as a forward. Those that settle on taking the shot then just look so devoid of any confidence in themselves to take the shot. Even someone like Marshall who is usually a deadeye, often is found looking to pass off when he’s marked inside 50.

Has to be a team direction. That many players can’t simply not want to take the kick.

kicking at goal is scary

 

[portly]

The personnel isn't the problem.

Dixon, Marshall and Finlayson/Georgiades are a very good trip of KPFs. SPP is one of the better high half forwards in the entire comp, and Rioli is a solid (at worst) small forward. Even DBJ this year has been doing his bit.

The issue has always been the methodology entering the forward 50. That has very little to do with personnel - though I suspect they are fans of the bomb it high and deep to minimise the amount of running Charlie has to do (I'm speculating).

What is clearly evident is that this game style entering the forward 50 is never going to win a flag.

This, to me, is Hinkleyball.

Kick it on Charlie's head, no leading, is the quintessential Hinkleyball.

 

[longdonkey]

This, to me, is Hinkleyball.

Kick it on Charlie's head, no leading, is the quintessential Hinkleyball.

I agree also playing a high defensive line and getting punished over back continuously while making no changes.

 

[philreich]

The MOST Hinkleyball characteristics to me, are:

Slow start to a big game
Absolutely burning midfield ascendance for little result
Coming back to within a couple of goals when the other team has taken the foot off.
Opponents scoring junk time goals that eat away at any hard earned lead / put it just out of arms length again.
And all in all... A complete aversion to responsibility, and inability to deal with expectation.

These things have been the same for over a decade now and whilst the players we throw into this broken system might get better or worse, the system itself has never really changed.

Hinkleyball is at the heart of the reason why my excitement for the game is at an all time low. I'll always barrack for Port Adelaide, but I have no expectations of seeing any success until this muppet finally leaves Alberton for the last time. Oh well - at least I'm saving plenty on membership fees in the meantime.

 

[Steve Dore]

To me Hinkleyball is the idea that repeat inside 50's, ie a F50 entry being rebounded by the opposition, being the way to win a game. The philosophy that the role of key position forwards is to bring the ball to ground and not mark and have a short on goal is key to Hinkleyball. This is why players like Mac and Cheese are automatic selections under Hinkleyball. Hinkleyball relies on small forwards executing pressure acts once the KPF has brought the ball to ground in order to set up a scoring opportunity. It is no wonder that we constantly have more F50 entries than the opposition yet lose the game.

 

[GremioPower]

I was a bit slower than most to realise Ken wouldn't lead this team to win a flag - for me, it was the 2019 game against GWS

The 2018 season has broken me.

 

[GremioPower]

Hinkleyball not only won a flag, but it became a dinasty. Richmond simply executed it to perfection. We never could.

Tigers never entered into “stand-by” mode as often as we do. They were able to play way smarter than us.

The main problem with Hinkleyball is… HINKLEY.

 

[edgie]

TeeKray what about the second showdown in 2015?

Rolled over for the crows all night long, before a too little too late comeback, which IIRC, we completely tripped over our own feet in the last clearance of the game when we could've gotten the ball forward for another chance to win.

Slightly more inside 50s, more inaccurate kicking.

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[edgie]

Hinkleyball not only won a flag, but it became a dinasty. Richmond simply executed it to perfection. We never could.

Tigers never entered into “stand-by” mode as often as we do. They were able to play way smarter than us.

The main problem with Hinkleyball is… HINKLEY.

Nah, Richmond were always more methodical and polished.

Sure someone of their game revolved around manic pressure and aimless kicks forward, but when it got to a certain point they were able to slow down, pinpoint targets, and execute skills.

Add to that the quality of their list was underrated. They seen as mostly scrubbers and triers hauled over the line on Dusty's back, but that's super disingenuous.

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[GremioPower]

Nah, Richmond were always more methodical and polished.

Sure someone of their game revolved around manic pressure and aimless kicks forward, but when it got to a certain point they were able to slow down, pinpoint targets, and execute skills.

Add to that the quality of their list was underrated. They seen as mostly scrubbers and triers hauled over the line on Dusty's back, but that's super disingenuous.

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Our list has certainly underachieved, even though you could argue theirs was better.

On the rest, you basically agreed with me that they played smarter ball than we did.