Speculation Clayton Oliver [UFA 2030]

[stallon]

Melbourne cant give him up for less than a top 10 pick surely, even with the new club taking the whole contract.
Hes one of the top few players in the comp and clearly his issues this year were largely due to a lack of a pre-season

 

[Donflicted]

Did you not watch him this year?

He's fat and unfit

Its fixable its not like his Jake Stringer and can't get away from the burgers at 30

His 27 surely there is still major upside

 

[Foxman98]

Melbourne cant give him up for less than a top 10 pick surely, even with the new club taking the whole contract.
Hes one of the top few players in the comp and clearly his issues this year were largely due to a lack of a pre-season

Largely due to his massive off field issues

 

[Foxman98]

Its fixable its not like his Jake Stringer and can't get away from the burgers at 30

His 27 surely there is still major upside

Burgers are the least of his issues healthwise

 

[Donflicted]

Burgers are the least of his issues healthwise

Ahhh my bad he was reported to be on the gear last year and the gambling issues forgot my bad sorry mate

 

[stallon]

Largely due to his massive off field issues

Yeah?

 

[joe444]

 

[Foxman98]

Yeah?

No one is paying a top 10 pick for a bloke who can't stay off the gear and is owed 1.1-1.3 million a year for 6 years

 

[stallon]

No one is paying a top 10 pick for a bloke who can't stay off the gear and is owed 1.1-1.3 million a year for 6 years

Has he been on the gear all year though?
1.1-1.3mil is not a big pay packet if he can get back to close to where he was, thats arguably unders

 

[Foxman98]

Has he been on the gear all year though?
1.1-1.3mil is not a big pay packet if he can get back to close to where he was, thats arguably unders

Again no one is paying a top 10 pick for the "if"

He clearly was on the gear a lot last year with his 10 week hamstring strain which also went into the offseason where he was then unfit and had his worst season since he entered the league,

Talent is there correct no one is overpaying for the "if"

 

[MisterMarcus]

I personally don't want him - too big a risk IMHO.

But part of me wants to see us land him and Smith just for the Bigfooty meltdown. Certain teams' boards would crash from the melts....

 

[stallon]

Again no one is paying a top 10 pick for the "if"

He clearly was on the gear a lot last year with his 10 week hamstring strain which also went into the offseason where he was then unfit and had his worst season since he entered the league,

Talent is there correct no one is overpaying for the "if"

Melbourne should give up what should be a top 10 pick for an "if" either

 

[bindas12]

Oliver value is lower than people think - a pick in the 20-30 range is what it'll end up as.

plus some free land ?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Again no one is paying a top 10 pick for the "if"

He clearly was on the gear a lot last year with his 10 week hamstring strain which also went into the offseason where he was then unfit and had his worst season since he entered the league,

Talent is there correct no one is overpaying for the "if"

I believe the correct term is "hamstring awareness".

 

[Foxman98]

I believe the correct term is "hamstring awareness".

The denial from some in here over his clear off field issues is astounding

 

[TylerDurden]

Pushed.

 

[Foxman98]

Tom Morris just said he's due 10 million dollars over the deal

 

[STPer18]

plus some free land ?

Aren't Hawthorn paying the big $$$ for a couple of solid B-grade defenders? Something smells, and not the dirty nappies from Dingley Tip.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

The denial from some in here over his clear off field issues is astounding

Yeah, it's bizarre how anyone can argue it's not a horrible horrible contract that makes him worthless.

Said ages ago, other ridiculous long term contracts will become just as bad as well but Oliver's is currently the pioneer.

 

[Foxman98]

Yeah, it's bizarre how anyone can argue it's not a horrible horrible contract that makes him worthless.

Said ages ago, other ridiculous long term contracts will become just as bad as well but Oliver's is currently the pioneer.

TPP Clauses included as well,

No doubt if he cleans up his act he's a superstar but huge risk vs reward

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

Yeah?

Are you not aware that he had probably the worst offseason since Ben Cousins was passed out in gutters?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

From June

Both he and Geelong are very into each other.

 

[jakson68]

Has he been on the gear all year though?
1.1-1.3mil is not a big pay packet if he can get back to close to where he was, thats arguably unders

Grabs ball, bombs ball.
Even at his best, he isnt worth 1.3 for 6 years.
Add in the off-field stuff and this contract was one of Melbourne's worst in history.

No matter what happens from here, Melbourne loses.

They get a nothing pick, and Oliver goes elsewhere and stars.
They get a half decent pick (nothing special) and pay a large chunk of his wage.
They hold him and watch the scrutiny come again next year.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Tom Morris just said he's due 10 million dollars over the deal

What?! Where did he say that?

I think I'm gonna be sick

 

[Bald]

If a club were to take on the deal in totality, is he actually worth anything?