Opinion Climate change

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i think there's is a specific thread called "climate change arguing"


This threads called "climate change" but there's more arguing here than the thread for arguing. this thread is more popular it seems..

Have followed both these climate change threads for months and haven't seen much knowledge about the climate. I am interested to know if people believe in climate change or not - they do or don't believe in it..
Are there some here that don't believe?
Are there some who do believe in it ?

What are the climate change threads about ?
 
i think there's is a specific thread called "climate change arguing"


This threads called "climate change" but there's more arguing here than the thread for arguing. this thread is more popular it seems..

Have followed both these climate change threads for months and haven't seen much knowledge about the climate. I am interested to know if people believe in climate change or not - they do or don't believe in it..
Are there some here that don't believe?
Are there some who do believe in it ?

What are the climate change threads about ?
Just generally to share news stories, data and opinions on the topic.
 
i think there's is a specific thread called "climate change arguing"


This threads called "climate change" but there's more arguing here than the thread for arguing. this thread is more popular it seems..

Have followed both these climate change threads for months and haven't seen much knowledge about the climate. I am interested to know if people believe in climate change or not - they do or don't believe in it..
Are there some here that don't believe?
Are there some who do believe in it ?

What are the climate change threads about ?

Climate always changes, but i agree that its likely CO2 is changing it now.
I'd consider that the nature of the change is unknown.

It seems unlikely that we will reduce CO2 emissions to prevent it in the next decade or so.

Australia's politics don't make much difference to the big picture, only to the amount of guilt we wear on our conscience.

Our history and civilisation seems to have coincided with a nice stable temperature.
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It probably wasn't going to last forever but we could be speeding things up, or we could be preventing it from plummeting too.
I'd hate it to be 20 degrees colder.

All of the CO2 was originally present, the oil and gas are the fossilised remains of plant matter. Before it was fossilised it was in the atmosphere, but the weather did some pretty zany stuff in those days.
 
Climate always changes, but i agree that its likely CO2 is changing it now.
I'd consider that the nature of the change is unknown.

It seems unlikely that we will reduce CO2 emissions to prevent it in the next decade or so.

Australia's politics don't make much difference to the big picture, only to the amount of guilt we wear on our conscience.

Our history and civilisation seems to have coincided with a nice stable temperature.
still_forpost.0.jpg



It probably wasn't going to last forever but we could be speeding things up, or we could be preventing it from plummeting too.
I'd hate it to be 20 degrees colder.

All of the CO2 was originally present, the oil and gas are the fossilised remains of plant matter. Before it was fossilised it was in the atmosphere, but the weather did some pretty zany stuff in those days.

I think you're missing the point. The climate changes on geological timescales, not measurably within decades.

The current changes are happening faster than ever before, barring one off events like massive volcano eruptions.

The scale of the graph is well off, ice ages certainly weren't 20 degrees cooler, that would be insane. It's more like 6 degrees. Which puts into perspective how crazy a change of 3 degrees in a hundred years would be.
 
In regards to the question, there is no legitimate debate on climate change being real. It's been well established, strong scientific fact for decades.

There is uncertainty over models predicting exactly how much the temperature will rise, exactly how much sea levels will change etc. But these models improve all the time. And are the best we have to work with.

Global politics and the meddling of the fossil fuel industry have been the only thing muddying the waters for decades, influencing the absolute morons on society. In reality climate change denial is on a par with the flat earth movement and only clueless Facebook boomer types are still on that train of idiocy.
 
I think you're missing the point. The climate changes on geological timescales, not measurably within decades.

The current changes are happening faster than ever before, barring one off events like massive volcano eruptions.

The scale of the graph is well off, ice ages certainly weren't 20 degrees cooler, that would be insane. It's more like 6 degrees. Which puts into perspective how crazy a change of 3 degrees in a hundred years would be.

My point was that stable temperature is actually an anomaly. The human race has enjoyed it.
I'm not sure we have data to support that it has never changed measurably within decades?
We're talking around 0.2 degrees C per decade, which we can measure now using today's instruments and techniques.

I agree , not sure what's going on with the temperature scale of that graph.

Thanos could fix it.
 
Congrats planet, thanks to the neoliberals and unchecked capitalism we're basically beyond the point of no return, just varying degrees of ****ed.

Oh well, luckily I'll be dead with no descendants to inherit hellworld.

Thanks boomers. Thanks big oil. Thanks Murdoch. Thanks humans.
 

"With the world only a few tenths of a degree away from the globally accepted goal of limiting warming to 1.5 degrees since pre-industrial times, scientists stressed a sense of urgency. The goal was adopted as part of the 2015 Paris climate agreement and the world has already warmed 1.1 degrees".
We aren't going to transition away from producing CO2 / Methane / other climate causing gasses in time to stop going beyond 1.5 degrees. IMO, it's past time to stop shitting on geo-engineering as a potential stop-gap, because it'd stop the transition (completely) away from fossil fuels. Despite those in the 'climate change isn't real!' camp, this transition is now unstoppable. It's going to occur, but not soon enough. Geo-engineering buys the time for the transition to be far enough along.
 
Congrats planet, thanks to the neoliberals and unchecked capitalism we're basically beyond the point of no return, just varying degrees of ****ed.

Oh well, luckily I'll be dead with no descendants to inherit hellworld.

Thanks boomers. Thanks big oil. Thanks Murdoch. Thanks humans.

So why are you so bothered? If I didn't have kids I'd be living it up without a care in the world.
 

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