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Lawnchair Larry said:
Well reported already but here is an extended play on Gupta and Whyalla

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Gupta to stop use of coal in steelmaking at Whyalla, use wind and solar instead

Gupta finally delivers on green steel promise, phasing out coal at Whyalla Steelworks and replacing it with renewable-powered technologies.
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Recycling is not exactly "steel making" but what they are doing is commendable.
Carbon free is poor terminology for steel.
Carbon is an essential ingredient, nothing wrong with that , just need to get it into the steel without blowing a heap into the atmosphere.
Steel is actually carbon storage, which is good.

Companies such as BMW are now demanding steel produced with low emissions to be used by their suppliers. Its going to be very challenging for some of them.
 

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sobrave said:
The la Nina respite for the last couple of summers is gonna make a return to "normal" hit hard.

Expecting the trickle of climate refugees moving to Tassie to turn into a flood over the next few years.
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That might at least make their footy team viable.
 
Torrens Island Battery Complex

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Tesla big battery loses “biggest” title as Torrens Island finally ready to charge up

Tesla big battery no longer biggest in its own state as AGL’s Torrens Island big battery finally obtains its connection agreement.
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"South Australia is already running at an average 70 per cent wind and solar over the past 12 months, and 80 per cent over summer, which leads the world in a gigawatt scale grid. It is expected to reach at least 100 per cent “net renewables” after the new transmission link to NSW is completed in a few years."
 
Lawnchair Larry said:
Torrens Island Battery Complex

reneweconomy.com.au

Tesla big battery loses “biggest” title as Torrens Island finally ready to charge up

Tesla big battery no longer biggest in its own state as AGL’s Torrens Island big battery finally obtains its connection agreement.
reneweconomy.com.au reneweconomy.com.au

"South Australia is already running at an average 70 per cent wind and solar over the past 12 months, and 80 per cent over summer, which leads the world in a gigawatt scale grid. It is expected to reach at least 100 per cent “net renewables” after the new transmission link to NSW is completed in a few years."
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None of them are the biggest battery in the world. They are just banks and banks of AAs.
Lots of doesn't equate to big. They can add more modules to any of them.
 
A first for SA as we trial a semi with a swappable battery system:

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Australian miner to trial world's first electric "triple" road train with swappable battery

They "won't tow your boat" but electric vehicles may soon be pulling 165 tonnes on highways around Australia after world first trial featuring a triple road train.
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"The 12-month trial will feature a diesel truck converted by Janus Electric that is capable of hauling up to 165 tonnes – the potential weight of a triple road train – at a range of between 200kms and 400kms on a single charge.

The truck will service Oz Minerals’ Carapateena copper mine, and a battery recharging and swap station has been installed at Port Augusta in South Australia, and will be powered by renewables."
 
Lawnchair Larry said:
"The 12-month trial will feature a diesel truck converted by Janus Electric that is capable of hauling up to 165 tonnes – the potential weight of a triple road train – at a range of between 200kms and 400kms on a single charge.
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Suspicious Will Smith GIF
 
Lawnchair Larry said:
A first for SA as we trial a semi with a swappable battery system:

thedriven.io

Australian miner to trial world's first electric "triple" road train with swappable battery

They "won't tow your boat" but electric vehicles may soon be pulling 165 tonnes on highways around Australia after world first trial featuring a triple road train.
thedriven.io thedriven.io

"The 12-month trial will feature a diesel truck converted by Janus Electric that is capable of hauling up to 165 tonnes – the potential weight of a triple road train – at a range of between 200kms and 400kms on a single charge.

The truck will service Oz Minerals’ Carapateena copper mine, and a battery recharging and swap station has been installed at Port Augusta in South Australia, and will be powered by renewables."
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The battery swap system is key to this.
A truck hauling that much load is going to use a huge amount of electricity so you are looking at charge times that are way longer than the industry would tolerate.
A quick swap system ( almost like an old stage coach system ) is a decent workaround.
 

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SaintsSeptember said:
Yet the majority do not forgo electricity or consumer goods.
My kids are young australians , they don't suggest turning off the aircon. Quite the opposite.
All good, i'm paying for it.
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It's not a 16 year old's job to fix the disaster that previous generations have created. I mean they're going to inherit the shitshow, but expecting a teenager to go out to live in the woods is batshit crazy.
 
sobrave said:
It's not a 16 year old's job to fix the disaster that previous generations have created. I mean they're going to inherit the shitshow, but expecting a teenager to go out to live in the woods is batshit crazy.
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It is though. Its a job for all of us.

You can do a lot at 16 - particularly as your brain is a sponge at that age.
 
EskimoPAFC said:
It is though. Its a job for all of us.

You can do a lot at 16 - particularly as your brain is a sponge at that age.
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Old mates kids turning the air conditioner on is not going to fix climate change lol.

We can all do things as individuals and it will make **** all difference unless we move very rapidly from fossil fuel cars, increased renewable generation etc etc.

They can help by not voting in the LNP for the next 100 years, but Labor aren't much better.

It's a scam being pushed on us that our individual choices are responsible for cooking the planet. We know where the problems are, we have to force the change. Riding a bike instead of a car is nice, but while container ships burning millions of litres of dirty diesel are still motoring around and we're still digging up coal for indian billionaires... Well..

Same thing with water usage. We try and save a few litres here and there, when general residential use of water is a tiny percentage of total use compared to agricultural/industrial use.

I'm not saying don't do stuff individually to reduce your footprint, it's just that we shouldn't feel guilty if we have to drive the car instead of catch a train once in a while. The billionaires and millionaires push these advertising campaigns while they do **** all except greenwash with made up shit about being carbon neutral.
 
No Australian Gen Z is going to change the way China and India go about their ways so it is pointless making them feel responsible and if the alarmist messaging is tanking their mental health then that needs to change.


Its about perspective anyway, would rather be the first world kid with the weight of the world on their shoulders than the kid mining cobalt in the Congo used to manufacture the electric car batteries.
 
sobrave said:
container ships burning millions of litres of dirty diesel are still motoring around and we're still digging up coal for indian billionaires
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Why do you think these things are done?
 
bomberclifford said:
Why do you think these things are done?
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Capitalism, consumerism. People want cheap goods. It's a long bow to draw to blame that on a teenager who wants a $1000 mobile phone imo.

If you're born into that society, do we really expect teenagers to go nah, I'll stick with second hand op shop clothes and a re-furbed Nokia.

Society has to change. It's been a big step even just turfing the libs and their climate denial policies.
 
sobrave said:
It's a long bow to draw to blame that on a teenager who wants a $1000 mobile phone imo.
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It's not. It's directly related. It's also not just the teenager but they're the ones with most to lose.
 

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