Opinion Collingwood Almanac 2016

[Knightmare]

Mr Knightmare ok to test you with our projecting draft picks at present ie the first couple of our picks, who would you think is in the mix and we would pick (knowing Collingwood).
And so you think we will actually take the father son options? Brown and Daicos.
I anticipate your not the sentimental type, which I get, but do you think We will actually take them?

It's going to be complicated for the simple reason that we've got a lot of players on the move and we're after a lot of players.

That is going to do damage to the selection of picks we have and leave us with anything - from more to less to better to worse picks.

We've got Brown rumoured as a possible to leave as a free agent. Then via trade Cloke, Williams, Frost and Witts are all rumoured to be going.

On the other side of things we're after at least Hoskin-Elliott via trade (maybe others depending on who comes up during trade week). Then Wells and Mayne as free agents, maybe Dal Santo as a delisted free agent.

So there is a lot of movement to happen. We'll perhaps look for some kpps and plausibly a ruck either via free agency/unrestricted free agency and the trade period on top of these mentioned players.

So what we're doing during the draft, given we've moved our first round pick in that Treloar deal is very much secondary until we see how the trade period evolves and what it leaves us with.

In terms of Brown and Daicos. My suspicion is we take both given we have voiced a need for more forwards. Also having overlooked James Stewart who we have been reportedly interested in via trade and with Liam Picken having the success he has had with the Dogs, I can imagine Eddie saying to Derek "you have to take them both".

As a prediction of Collingwood's offseason. I can't see anyone doing better given the movement that looks set to happen.

Hi Knightmare. I was listening to trade radio the other day and it was mentioned that Tom Lamb from West Coast has yet to re-sign and is considering a move home. What are your thoughts on him and could he fill a need for us if he is available?

I'm not particularly interested in Lamb and see limited best 22 potential. Plays a soft variety of footy and seems to lack desire from what I've observed of him as a junior. Not a great mark, not a great kick, lacks a clear best position, doesn't work hard enough defensively. Overall he isn't what I'd be looking for in a forward or anywhere on the field, despite the early hype in his draft year.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

It's going to be complicated for the simple reason that we've got a lot of players on the move and we're after a lot of players.

That is going to do damage to the selection of picks we have and leave us with anything - from more to less to better to worse picks.

We've got Brown rumoured as a possible to leave as a free agent. Then via trade Cloke, Williams, Frost and Witts are all rumoured to be going.

On the other side of things we're after at least Hoskin-Elliott via trade (maybe others depending on who comes up during trade week). Then Wells and Mayne as free agents, maybe Dal Santo as a delisted free agent.

So there is a lot of movement to happen. We'll perhaps look for some kpps and plausibly a ruck either via free agency/unrestricted free agency and the trade period on top of these mentioned players.

So what we're doing during the draft, given we've moved our first round pick in that Treloar deal is very much secondary until we see how the trade period evolves and what it leaves us with.

In terms of Brown and Daicos. My suspicion is we take both given we have voiced a need for more forwards. Also having overlooked James Stewart who we have been reportedly interested in via trade and with Liam Picken having the success he has had with the Dogs, I can imagine Eddie saying to Derek "you have to take them both".

As a prediction of Collingwood's offseason. I can't see anyone doing better given the movement that looks set to happen.



I'm not particularly interested in Lamb and see limited best 22 potential. Plays a soft variety of footy and seems to lack desire from what I've observed of him as a junior. Not a great mark, not a great kick, lacks a clear best position, doesn't work hard enough defensively. Overall he isn't what I'd be looking for in a forward or anywhere on the field, despite the early hype in his draft year.

I love your attitude about seeking best 22 list players.
Personally don't see the point of going for maybe ok maybe best 30 etc. if they arnt obvious best 22 or potential just not worth the bother.

Caveat: getting a cheap specilist position (Eg ruck) as cover only is ok in my book, Eg Ben Hudson.

The draft is for the projection of players.

That's why I liked Nathan saying tonight every decision is with the view of winning premierships.

Ps I prefer it if Ed says less to anyone eg Derek or Nathan get such and such ie about who we get or don't.
But that's me.

 

[Knightmare]

I love your attitude about seeking best 22 list players.
Personally don't see the point of going for maybe ok maybe best 30 etc. if they arnt obvious best 22 or potential just not worth the bother.

Caveat: getting a cheap specilist position (Eg ruck) as cover only is ok in my book, Eg Ben Hudson.

The draft is for the projection of players.

That's why I liked Nathan saying tonight every decision is with the view of winning premierships.

Ps I prefer it if Ed says less to anyone eg Derek or Nathan get such and such ie about who we get or don't.
But that's me.

If investing in depth I'd rather it be as you say someone who can not only provide depth but provide genuine veteran leadership - Hudson is a great example and a worthwhile example.

But otherwise I'd rather not speculate on young talent or any talent. Get me best 22 players and maximise the quality of my best 22. And we give ourselves a chance to win.

Agree with you on Ed. Derek/Rendell are our recruiters are they are pros and both best three in the competition standard junior talent identifiers in my books, so you can't have Nathan or Ed stopping them from maximising the quality of those players chosen.

 

[TW Sherrin]

It's going to be complicated for the simple reason that we've got a lot of players on the move and we're after a lot of players.

That is going to do damage to the selection of picks we have and leave us with anything - from more to less to better to worse picks.

We've got Brown rumoured as a possible to leave as a free agent. Then via trade Cloke, Williams, Frost and Witts are all rumoured to be going.

On the other side of things we're after at least Hoskin-Elliott via trade (maybe others depending on who comes up during trade week). Then Wells and Mayne as free agents, maybe Dal Santo as a delisted free agent.

So there is a lot of movement to happen. We'll perhaps look for some kpps and plausibly a ruck either via free agency/unrestricted free agency and the trade period on top of these mentioned players.

So what we're doing during the draft, given we've moved our first round pick in that Treloar deal is very much secondary until we see how the trade period evolves and what it leaves us with.

In terms of Brown and Daicos. My suspicion is we take both given we have voiced a need for more forwards. Also having overlooked James Stewart who we have been reportedly interested in via trade and with Liam Picken having the success he has had with the Dogs, I can imagine Eddie saying to Derek "you have to take them both".

As a prediction of Collingwood's offseason. I can't see anyone doing better given the movement that looks set to happen.

I'd be staggered if we signed Dal Santo given the massive drama over Wells and he is still at the top of his game.

Unless someone bids a 1st on brown / daicos (which I cant see happening) they will be at Collingwood.

 

[RGpies]

Only early runours knightmare, but rockcliffe to pies. What are your thoughts? What would you give up for him? Amd realistically what do you think we would give up for him? This is all speculation of course. Perfect dane swan replacement in my opinion.

 

[Soups]

Only early runours knightmare, but rockcliffe to pies. What are your thoughts? What would you give up for him? Amd realistically what do you think we would give up for him? This is all speculation of course. Perfect dane swan replacement in my opinion.

Tom Rockliff: One of the better midfielders in the game and probably the most productive in the competition when on his game. Would be an excellent Dane Swan replacement as that ultra-productive midfielder.

What I would be willing to offer (not necessarily correlating with what would be enough to get the player): Combination of players outside best 15 of player value rankings or picks.

 

[Knightmare]

Only early runours knightmare, but rockcliffe to pies. What are your thoughts? What would you give up for him? Amd realistically what do you think we would give up for him? This is all speculation of course. Perfect dane swan replacement in my opinion.

Would love to have Rockliff.

Brisbane want both Witts and Frost, so they'd be two of the pieces involved already. Tom Langdon could be a suitable third piece (outside the clubs best 15) who could be worth trading if Brisbane don't accept Witts/Frost/Oxley.

Down back Howe and Scharenberg off half-back as intercepters are enough and with Langdon a below average kick and probably not having the ceiling to become much better than he is already, he could be one worth considering moving if it means gaining Rockliff.

Likely depending on the third piece involved beyond Witts and Frost, there would be some pick trading to satisfy both teams and make the deal suitable for both teams.

 

[PieWithHorse]

Hey Knightmare, I have been looking at the legitimacy of jumping into the mid first round to snatcher Logue or Bolton and just can't see it happening. As a result would really love to jump into the late first round and snatch Battle - really adds a need and fits with (rumoured) plans to grab a big KPF end of next year.

As a result who would you look at after this? Cedric Cox is one, however I've liked the look of Kym Lebois as an alternative to Bolton and I've also liked Jack Maibaum as an alternative to Logue. Brennan Cox just doesn't seem to offer enough attack from the back half in my opinion. What are your thoughts? Is there anyone else you'd look at as the speedy forward/mid and KPD type?

 

[Matt_352]

Hey Knightmare, I have been looking at the legitimacy of jumping into the mid first round to snatcher Logue or Bolton and just can't see it happening. As a result would really love to jump into the late first round and snatch Battle - really adds a need and fits with (rumoured) plans to grab a big KPF end of next year.

As a result who would you look at after this? Cedric Cox is one, however I've liked the look of Kym Lebois as an alternative to Bolton and I've also liked Jack Maibaum as an alternative to Logue. Brennan Cox just doesn't seem to offer enough attack from the back half in my opinion. What are your thoughts? Is there anyone else you'd look at as the speedy forward/mid and KPD type?

KPD - Mitch McCarthy

 

[PieWithHorse]

KPD - Mitch McCarthy

Was hoping for him in the rookie draft

 

[Matt_352]

Was hoping for him in the rookie draft

Be a steal of the draft in rookie draft

 

[PieWithHorse]

Be a steal of the draft in rookie draft

Potentially. Tall and athletic, but still fairly raw and the injury surely hasn't helped... Rookie draft could be a stretch, but I'd say he'd be at least 45+ range

 

[doodles98]

Would love to have Rockliff.

Brisbane want both Witts and Frost, so they'd be two of the pieces involved already. Tom Langdon could be a suitable third piece (outside the clubs best 15) who could be worth trading if Brisbane don't accept Witts/Frost/Oxley.

Down back Howe and Scharenberg off half-back as intercepters are enough and with Langdon a below average kick and probably not having the ceiling to become much better than he is already, he could be one worth considering moving if it means gaining Rockliff.

Likely depending on the third piece involved beyond Witts and Frost, there would be some pick trading to satisfy both teams and make the deal suitable for both teams.

Think you're right about Langdon.

But I am a bit puzzled by everyone rating Roclkiff so highly. I know he gets a lot of the ball but I've never thought of him as a particularly damaging player that you have to worry about much. Stats seem to confirm my view. His player rating seems to be very low for a guy who gets a lot of possession. What do you see in him and what is he bringing to our team that we need?

 

[Unknown Identity]

Think you're right about Langdon.

But I am a bit puzzled by everyone rating Roclkiff so highly. I know he gets a lot of the ball but I've never thought of him as a particularly damaging player that you have to worry about much. Stats seem to confirm my view. His player rating seems to be very low for a guy who gets a lot of possession. What do you see in him and what is he bringing to our team that we need?

Some stats on Rockliff on his 2016 season. (Averages)

• 7th for Disposals
• 23rd for Contested Possessions
• 26th for Centre Clearances
• 20th for Clearances
• 10th for Tackles
• 68.9% Disposal Efficiency (Dangerfield goes at 69.3%, Sloane 69.5%, Dahlhaus 68.9%, Coniglio 68.8%, Priddis 68.8%)
• Kicked 15 goals in a very poor team and missed 5 games (Treloar Kicked 13, Pendles kicked 11)

Now i wouldn't sell the farm to bring him in but he vastly improves our team, allows Adams to go to Half Back where he played some very good football, allows Pendles to float forward or back.

A goal kicking midfielder, who tackles and wins contested ball..? yes please..

Flog Factor a slight issue for me though!..

 

[doodles98]

Some stats on Rockliff on his 2016 season. (Averages)

• 7th for Disposals
• 23rd for Contested Possessions
• 26th for Centre Clearances
• 20th for Clearances
• 10th for Tackles
• 68.9% Disposal Efficiency (Dangerfield goes at 69.3%, Sloane 69.5%, Dahlhaus 68.9%, Coniglio 68.8%, Priddis 68.8%)
• Kicked 15 goals in a very poor team and missed 5 games (Treloar Kicked 13, Pendles kicked 11)

Now i wouldn't sell the farm to bring him in but he vastly improves our team, allows Adams to go to Half Back where he played some very good football, allows Pendles to float forward or back.

A goal kicking midfielder, who tackles and wins contested ball..? yes please..

Flog Factor a slight issue for me though!..

Thanks for that. I like to think I'm clued up about players and I live in Brisbane so end up watching a lot of Lions games. I have absolutely zero excuse for not realizing how good he is. I watch the games, see him play but don't really notice him or rate him much. Maybe it's me or maybe it's just because he plays for Brisbane. I rate Zorko though!

 

[4#Didak#4]

Some stats on Rockliff on his 2016 season. (Averages)

• 7th for Disposals
• 23rd for Contested Possessions
• 26th for Centre Clearances
• 20th for Clearances
• 10th for Tackles
• 68.9% Disposal Efficiency (Dangerfield goes at 69.3%, Sloane 69.5%, Dahlhaus 68.9%, Coniglio 68.8%, Priddis 68.8%)
• Kicked 15 goals in a very poor team and missed 5 games (Treloar Kicked 13, Pendles kicked 11)

Now i wouldn't sell the farm to bring him in but he vastly improves our team, allows Adams to go to Half Back where he played some very good football, allows Pendles to float forward or back.

A goal kicking midfielder, who tackles and wins contested ball..? yes please..

Flog Factor a slight issue for me though!..

There is no questioning Rockliff's quality. Genuinely elite midfielder who can go forward. He has done this of late in a team he has been forced to carry, so I think if you took that pressure off and put him to work in our midfield his already high output would explode.

Brisbane being so keen to offload and the flog factor are big concerns, but at the same time he perhaps just needs out of that weird Brisbane environment. To me he seems overly driven, impulsive and tends to get everyone offside, it was a bad move having him in that leadership role.

In terms of quality it would be like getting Dayne Beams back (minus the quad issues) he also brings some experience and the age profile is perfect for us.

I still cannot see us being able to conjure up what Brisbane needs, even with them being willing sellers versus with Beams where we were unwilling sellers. Beams went for a 1st, 2nd & Crisp. I think Brisbane would settle for a 1st and steak knives. I don't think we can get a 1st so I would be pitching an early second with someone like Greenwood. Greenwood is more than steak knives and would be able to fill the hole that Rockliff leaves in their midfield (best 22) much like Greenwood did when we lost Beams. If Rockliff arrives Greenwood really is on the outer with us and needs to find other opportunities.

There is the unpopular option of next years 1st rounder. KM will know more than I on next years draft crop but I am not sure its a great idea to part with this despite Rockliff's quality. It would be a gamble that may go either way.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Some stats on Rockliff on his 2016 season. (Averages)

• 7th for Disposals
• 23rd for Contested Possessions
• 26th for Centre Clearances
• 20th for Clearances
• 10th for Tackles
• 68.9% Disposal Efficiency (Dangerfield goes at 69.3%, Sloane 69.5%, Dahlhaus 68.9%, Coniglio 68.8%, Priddis 68.8%)
• Kicked 15 goals in a very poor team and missed 5 games (Treloar Kicked 13, Pendles kicked 11)

Now i wouldn't sell the farm to bring him in but he vastly improves our team, allows Adams to go to Half Back where he played some very good football, allows Pendles to float forward or back.

A goal kicking midfielder, who tackles and wins contested ball..? yes please..

Flog Factor a slight issue for me though!..

If people I may ask one question at the suggestions floated re Pendlebury would have time off the ball with new entrants.

Can I suggest so long as he is capable, health wise, age wise, Pendlebury is rock solid gold in the middle and he should have multiple to maximum minutes in the engine.
He's just to good not to have there, in my (very ) humble opinion.

I love the idea of a dominant team Grundy feeding Pendlebury, Treloar, De Goey (!) , running through with Adams, say Rockliff, then Crisp, gee we can run deep here.

 

[4#Didak#4]

If people I may ask one question at the suggestions floated re Pendlebury would have time off the ball with new entrants.

Can I suggest so long as he is capable, health wise, age wise, Pendlebury is rock solid gold in the middle and he should have multiple to maximum minutes in the engine.
He's just to good not to have there, in my (very ) humble opinion.

I love the idea of a dominant team Grundy feeding Pendlebury, Treloar, De Goey (!) , running through with Adams, say Rockliff, then Crisp, gee we can run deep here.

100% agree with this. Whilst all players need to be a little flexible now, his minutes should all be in the middle where he is so so good. However, at times he will need to be rested and not ridden into the ground so we will need other contributors who need time there to build their game like De Goey. Treloar is another who is really too good to be moved off the ball too long.

 

[4#Didak#4]

I'd want to get Pickett cheap.

If available cheap (as in 3rd round pick or less I'd take him).

Perfect list fit if he gets himself right and can build up his endurance base.

Seriously damaging player and something like another Lewis Jetta if things work out.

Seems Carlton have slid into prime position with Pickett. Will be interesting to see what they give up, but one gets the feeling it will be very little and part of the usual GWS/Carlton package deal. Likely they will get Marchbank and Pickett for a first rounder and swap of picks later. If his foot is good I do think Pickett will tear it up and be an extremely good get.

This brings the question of Stewart. Surely the Blues cannot land all three! As such what are our chances of a WHE/Stewart package deal?

 

[Saintly Viewed]

100% agree with this. Whilst all players need to be a little flexible now, his minutes should all be in the middle where he is so so good. However, at times he will need to be rested and not ridden into the ground so we will need other contributors who need time there to build their game like De Goey. Treloar is another who is really too good to be moved off the ball too long.

We are in agreement.
We may be lucky and have the luxury to not ride them into the ground, that's good point.
A good rest, then back to the salt mines for our captain

 

[Prochard123]

Hey Knightmare,
What are your thoughts in combining our trade assets and trade in a late first rounder this year, so we can trade out 2017 1st round pick for Rockliff?

 

[pugsville]

Hey Knightmare,
What are your thoughts in combining our trade assets and trade in a late first rounder this year, so we can trade out 2017 1st round pick for Rockliff?

up trades could be very hard to get this year, the rule tightening on academies is you only go into the draft with as many picks as you have list spots, so you cant stock pile much in the way of late picks, you can for as many rookies as you intend to draft. Both Gold coast and Western Sydney seem to be keen to trade up, into the high first round where they will get their picks in before any academy bids (if they don't cross bid on each other)

 

[TradeDraft]

Now with Wells Officially Being a Collingwood Player.

What do you Expect out of him?

 

[Knightmare]

Hey Knightmare, I have been looking at the legitimacy of jumping into the mid first round to snatcher Logue or Bolton and just can't see it happening. As a result would really love to jump into the late first round and snatch Battle - really adds a need and fits with (rumoured) plans to grab a big KPF end of next year.

As a result who would you look at after this? Cedric Cox is one, however I've liked the look of Kym Lebois as an alternative to Bolton and I've also liked Jack Maibaum as an alternative to Logue. Brennan Cox just doesn't seem to offer enough attack from the back half in my opinion. What are your thoughts? Is there anyone else you'd look at as the speedy forward/mid and KPD type?

Mid first round is probably not an area I'm all that enthusiastic about moving into.

There is a strong top 10 (including academy) or subtracting the academy players roughly a good 6-7 picks. After that while there are still small tiers, it's pretty even through to 40 with substantial variation on draft boards.

Overall it's a draft I'd feel confident picking late draft without feeling any pressing need to pick early.

Looking at your list of players that you like, only Bolton of those I rate inside my top 30 (power rankings).

That's not to say several of those won't go earlier. Logue may go around pick 10. Cox may go first round etc.

But I'm seeing some value in others. Lachlan Tiziani late draft along with Ben Ronke and Brodie Romensky are my value picks who I rate inside my top 30 power rankings with Lachlan Walker and Dan Allsop two I rate in the 40s who also I see as being there late/rookie.

Then as mature agers Brett Eddy, Jye Bolton and Tyler Keitel all look good.

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To talk about the guys you like. Bolton I like for his impact. Exceptionally quick and damaging player. Perhaps more outside than I'd like, but he looks like a potentially developable player who if things go right could be a big time impact player off HF.

Logue I haven't liked as a key defender. A fine stopper but offers zero rebound. Good size and excellent athlete but doesn't really show it in game enough or impact games enough. I haven't seen him play in the WAFL. Perhaps if I see him play as a mid I'd change my mind on him but overall I feel pretty meh towards his game. Again even understanding where he likely lands in the draft.

Battle has some attributes. Excellent endurance by position, good skills etc. He feels probably more like a 3rd tall forward more so than a key forward. So for that I'd favour a Will Hayward based on what I saw from him in the SANFL (u18s) finals and the way he was impacting the game so heavily. Battle can probably be had (early) second round but with his declining form over the season and as a smaller key forward, my interest has waned.

LeBois has talent - freakish at ground level and can do some damage but for me he is a slightly worse version of Dan Allsop. Better finisher but Allsop feels more influential more often, and is a better contested ball winner, even quicker and cleaner with the ground balls (if that can be possible), more lively tackler and while inaccurate finishing in front of goal, he feels like in games he can offer heavier scoreboard impact.

Maibaum as a key defender I look at as too much of a pure stopper who can't rebound. In the modern game, you have to be able to rebound as well as stop and I'm not seeing that capability with him.

Cox relative to Maibaum and Logue I feel is actually the better rebounder of the key defenders and may perhaps (in a group without a genuine top end key defender) probably the one I like relatively more. Good size, good athlete who can run from defence, can intercept and rebound some and beat his man in the 1v1s. He feels more developable and like with more time down back that he could potentially develop into something, if I had to back in a key defender this year.

Though with Frost looking likely on the move, Tyler Keitel from WA I like slightly more of the key defenders and like from a value perspective.

Think you're right about Langdon.

But I am a bit puzzled by everyone rating Roclkiff so highly. I know he gets a lot of the ball but I've never thought of him as a particularly damaging player that you have to worry about much. Stats seem to confirm my view. His player rating seems to be very low for a guy who gets a lot of possession. What do you see in him and what is he bringing to our team that we need?

I think Rockliff looks worse than he is being on such a weak team. You're seeing that with Beams at Brisbane who isn't quite who he was for Collingwood.

Then Treloar coming to Collingwood, Dangerfield going to Geelong etc all look better on their newer, more mature teams.

Rockliff I value quite highly. Perhaps not a successful captain with Brisbane given there is nothing around him, but as someone to back up Pendlebury and compliment Adams as part of the leadership group. That's looking a bit more healthy with the list's age balance also to look more balanced.

In terms of his game. He does it all. Doesn't kick it like Rich or run like Hanley from a Brisbane context. But he is basically Brisbane's Swan. Wins it, tackles well, provides scoreboard impact, can rotate forward as required.

He'd be a big time get and after Danger/Fyfe/Pendles/G.Ablett there aren't many better. I'd rate Rockliff a genuine best 10 in the competition mid and slightly better even than Treloar. Albeit different players.

There is no questioning Rockliff's quality. Genuinely elite midfielder who can go forward. He has done this of late in a team he has been forced to carry, so I think if you took that pressure off and put him to work in our midfield his already high output would explode.

Brisbane being so keen to offload and the flog factor are big concerns, but at the same time he perhaps just needs out of that weird Brisbane environment. To me he seems overly driven, impulsive and tends to get everyone offside, it was a bad move having him in that leadership role.

In terms of quality it would be like getting Dayne Beams back (minus the quad issues) he also brings some experience and the age profile is perfect for us.

I still cannot see us being able to conjure up what Brisbane needs, even with them being willing sellers versus with Beams where we were unwilling sellers. Beams went for a 1st, 2nd & Crisp. I think Brisbane would settle for a 1st and steak knives. I don't think we can get a 1st so I would be pitching an early second with someone like Greenwood. Greenwood is more than steak knives and would be able to fill the hole that Rockliff leaves in their midfield (best 22) much like Greenwood did when we lost Beams. If Rockliff arrives Greenwood really is on the outer with us and needs to find other opportunities.

There is the unpopular option of next years 1st rounder. KM will know more than I on next years draft crop but I am not sure its a great idea to part with this despite Rockliff's quality. It would be a gamble that may go either way.

Next years first round pick can't be moved given the club moved the 2015+2016 first round picks. The consequence of doing this means we are unable to move our 2017 or 2018 first round picks with clubs allowed to move only two first round picks every four years.

If people I may ask one question at the suggestions floated re Pendlebury would have time off the ball with new entrants.

Can I suggest so long as he is capable, health wise, age wise, Pendlebury is rock solid gold in the middle and he should have multiple to maximum minutes in the engine.
He's just to good not to have there, in my (very ) humble opinion.

I love the idea of a dominant team Grundy feeding Pendlebury, Treloar, De Goey (!) , running through with Adams, say Rockliff, then Crisp, gee we can run deep here.

Pendles as a perminant mid are absolute top priority.

Even bringing in a Rockliff and looking to get regular minutes into De Goey through the mids it just means Treloar plays more wing and sometimes half forward with lesser names pushed our of midfield rotation and required to play elsewhere.

Pendlebury can push to half-forward for minor minutes/to rest as with Rockliff and De Goey. But for me they would be our three primary onballers with Treloar more a wing who rotates in as the fourth.

Seems Carlton have slid into prime position with Pickett. Will be interesting to see what they give up, but one gets the feeling it will be very little and part of the usual GWS/Carlton package deal. Likely they will get Marchbank and Pickett for a first rounder and swap of picks later. If his foot is good I do think Pickett will tear it up and be an extremely good get.

This brings the question of Stewart. Surely the Blues cannot land all three! As such what are our chances of a WHE/Stewart package deal?

WHE + Stewart package is plausible though against the odds with Carlton having strong interest in Stewart and us not having much to offer, given our lack of a first round pick.

I haven't heard (though haven't listened) to any Pickett to Carlton rumours.

I expect Marchbank and Stewart are their primarily targets in any deal.

Hey Knightmare,
What are your thoughts in combining our trade assets and trade in a late first rounder this year, so we can trade out 2017 1st round pick for Rockliff?

Can't do. Not available to trade our 2017 or 2018 1st round pick until AFL rules (needing to keep two 1st round picks for every four years) which we already used up in Treloar trade last year.

 

[Knightmare]

Now with Wells Officially Being a Collingwood Player.

What do you Expect out of him?

Good play when healthy but injuries and games missed more years than not.

The three year deal is too much, but it is what it is.

After two he probably struggles. But two good years on the outside is my expectation and a good result.