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[Granit1962]

Why would we get a Football Manager who doesn't actually know anything about football lol

Good point.

I wonder if the football department boss necessarily needs high level AFL specific experience, or, are those skills transferrable from a code such as NRL. I am not advocating this, just noting it is possible that you could be better off with a top level outsider, putting forward a new perspective, compared to someone who has only seen AFL and possibly more narrow minded.

 

[swoop42]

So this bloke knows a lot about NRL and what a successful culture looks like in that code.

How about, you know, AFL?

Not against it but it's left field.

 

[beez]

Why would we get a Football Manager who doesn't actually know anything about football lol

Fans bang on about bringing successful people into their club.

Ponissi has been at one of the most successful Australian sporting organisations for almost 20 years.

The vast majority of us have no idea about the machinations and nuances of the various administrative roles.

From having heard him on SEN for a long period of time now, and given from all reports we are chasing him to some extent, I assume he'd be a fantastic person to bring into the footy club; irrespective of any apparent lack of AFL knowledge.

 

[jimmy35]

So this bloke knows a lot about NRL and what a successful culture looks like in that code.

How about, you know, AFL?

Not against it but it's left field.

No that’s baseball.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Why would we get a Football Manager who doesn't actually know anything about football lol

What does a footy boss do? What part of their role requires them to know much about football?

They don’t have to do anything on the field - we have players to do that.

They don’t have to teach skills - we have assistants to do that.

They don’t have to come up with game plans - we have a senior coach that does that.

They don’t have to do player recruitment - we have a draft and list management team that does that.

The footy boss is an executive role, a strategic role. Their job is big picture. What is the vision / mission? Do the staff understand and have buy-in to the vision / mission? Yeah of course it’s to win games of footy and Premierships, but that’s no different to the other 17 teams and that’s the ‘what’. There’ll be a strategic element of the ‘how’ to go with it (eg: “Side by side”)

This is very normal in industry (eg: when Holgate went to Australia Post what did she know about delivering the mail given she’d come from a vitamins company?)

Advantages of recruiting from outside of the AFL …

• Wider selection pool
• Possibility of attracting quality people who come from an industry that doesn’t pay as well as the AFL
• Probably lower risk of them being a micro manager
• Cross pollination of ideas from other disciplines. If you have a candidate who has achieved huge success by running an innovation program, why wouldn’t you want that person at your footy club?

 

[DopeMaster]

What does a footy boss do? What part of their role requires them to know much about football?

They don’t have to do anything on the field - we have players to do that.

They don’t have to teach skills - we have assistants to do that.

They don’t have to come up with game plans - we have a senior coach that does that.

They don’t have to do player recruitment - we have a draft and list management team that does that.

The footy boss is an executive role, a strategic role. Their job is big picture. What is the vision / mission? Do the staff understand and have buy-in to the vision / mission? Yeah of course it’s to win games of footy and Premierships, but that’s no different to the other 17 teams and that’s the ‘what?’. There’ll be a strategic element of the ‘how’ to go with that (eg: “
Side by side”)

This is very normal in industry (eg: when Holgate when to Australia Post what did she know about delivering the mail, given she’d come from a vitamins company?)

Advantages of recruiting from outside of the AFL …

• Wider selection pool
• Possibility of attracting quality people who come from an industry that doesn’t pay as well as the AFL
• Probably lower risk of them being a micro manager
• Cross pollination of ideas from other disciplines. If you have a candidate who has achieved huge success by running an innovation program, why wouldn’t you want that person at your footy club?

Great post. Does anyone know what the role of footy boss is precisely and whether coming from a different sport would be a drawback? I like the left-field thinking. Fairly sure Wade also came from Rugby and he's been an excellent appointment.

 

[Antz]

Great post. Does anyone know what the role of footy boss is precisely and whether coming from a different sport would be a drawback? I like the left-field thinking. Fairly sure Wade also came from Rugby and he's been an excellent appointment.

And the Storm are a very successful club. He could bring fresh ideas etc.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Great post. Does anyone know what the role of footy boss is precisely and whether coming from a different sport would be a drawback? I like the left-field thinking. Fairly sure Wade also came from Rugby and he's been an excellent appointment.

Not to mention, we have players in the AFL who don't have much (some none) of a footy background..

I'm sure it's less of a stretch to be a successful footy manager from a different code.

 

[JuniorB]

What does a footy boss do? What part of their role requires them to know much about football?

They don’t have to do anything on the field - we have players to do that.

They don’t have to teach skills - we have assistants to do that.

They don’t have to come up with game plans - we have a senior coach that does that.

They don’t have to do player recruitment - we have a draft and list management team that does that.

The footy boss is an executive role, a strategic role. Their job is big picture. What is the vision / mission? Do the staff understand and have buy-in to the vision / mission? Yeah of course it’s to win games of footy and Premierships, but that’s no different to the other 17 teams and that’s the ‘what?’. There’ll be a strategic element of the ‘how’ to go with that (eg: “
Side by side”)

This is very normal in industry (eg: when Holgate when to Australia Post what did she know about delivering the mail, given she’d come from a vitamins company?)

Advantages of recruiting from outside of the AFL …

• Wider selection pool
• Possibility of attracting quality people who come from an industry that doesn’t pay as well as the AFL
• Probably lower risk of them being a micro manager
• Cross pollination of ideas from other disciplines. If you have a candidate who has achieved huge success by running an innovation program, why wouldn’t you want that person at your footy club?

Ponissi has been in a senior role at a successful sporting club for a long time, so he's really good at his job.
Given that the Storm are based pretty much across the road, you'd think he's picked up a few clues about AFL anyway.
If he were to get the gig, I'm sure he'd do a great job.

 

[Anzacday]

So this bloke knows a lot about NRL and what a successful culture looks like in that code.

How about, you know, AFL?

Not against it but it's left field.

They took a punt…

Justin Rodski appointed Melbourne Storm CEO

Melbourne Storm today announced the appointment of Justin Rodski as the new CEO of the club.

www.melbournestorm.com.au

 

[NMBB]

Why would we get a Football Manager who doesn't actually know anything about football lol

The New Magpies (specifically Ranald MacDonald) appointed Peter Bahen as general manager in 1983(?).

Bahen had worked at the Australian Ballet. He was sacked from Cwood after a couple of years.

During his short tenure he commented "running Collingwood is like being Mayor of Beirut".

efa

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Collingwood is most valuable club brand in Australian sport, Brisbane Broncos top NRL brand ladder | Press Release | Brand Finance

Collingwood is Australia's most valuable football club brand, with an impressive brand valuation of AUD145 million, according to a new report from Brand Finance, the world's leading brand valuation consultancy. This measurement reflects the club’s long-term success both on and off the field...

brandfinance.com

 

[Fat Jesus]

Collingwood is most valuable club brand in Australian sport, Brisbane Broncos top NRL brand ladder | Press Release | Brand Finance

Collingwood is Australia's most valuable football club brand, with an impressive brand valuation of AUD145 million, according to a new report from Brand Finance, the world's leading brand valuation consultancy. This measurement reflects the club’s long-term success both on and off the field...

brandfinance.com

Lol 555
Collingwood as a brand would be closer or more to 500 million.
Biggest sporting brand in Australia.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

[Scodog10]

Fans bang on about bringing successful people into their club.

Ponissi has been at one of the most successful Australian sporting organisations for almost 20 years.

The vast majority of us have no idea about the machinations and nuances of the various administrative roles.

From having heard him on SEN for a long period of time now, and given from all reports we are chasing him to some extent, I assume he'd be a fantastic person to bring into the footy club; irrespective of any apparent lack of AFL knowledge.

This is the issue people have with Ponissi as a candidate. He’s a perfect fit because that role is effectively the CEO of the football department he’s not developing and implementing a system and he’s not in charge of talent acquisition.

His role is to manage the people that do those roles and he knows what a high achiever looks like better than anyone having worked beside the best coach of any Australian sport this century. The values and cultural standard he’d bring with him would make GW look like an amateur! The only question would be can he handle Kelly?

 

[soreplums]

This is the issue people have with Ponissi as a candidate. He’s a perfect fit because that role is effectively the CEO of the football department he’s not developing and implementing a system and he’s not in charge of talent acquisition.

His role is to manage the people that do those roles and he knows what a high achiever looks like better than anyone having worked beside the best coach of any Australian sport this century. The values and cultural standard he’d bring with him would make GW look like an amateur! The only question would be can he handle Kelly?

They’ll just sack Kelly and bring in Maxwell!

 

[Fat Jesus]

They’ll just sack Kelly and bring in Maxwell!

That won't happen. Kelly will be fine

 

[TheGreatSwan]

Why would we get a Football Manager who doesn't actually know anything about football lol

Doesn't know anything about football? He was on the panel that selected the coach of the Richmond Football Club. Btw he spent 20 years as operations leader at one of the most successful sporting institutions in Australia. Would be a huge acquisation for Collingwood.

 

[NMBB]

They’ll just sack Kelly and bring in Maxwell!

How will Maxwell perform in the role?

 

[HoraceStrasbork]

They’ll just sack Kelly and bring in Maxwell!

 

[jimmy35]

They were keen on him but missed by that much.

 

[JuniorB]

Another drive by from Barrett, well two really:

IF the Demons tried to shut down Clarry talk ... THEN

The Trade Period is here and Sliding Doors is in top form ... and Damo's got plenty to say

www.afl.com.au