List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

[ElliottsMaggies]

Don't know much about this kid.

What I have seen is pretty uninspiring.

 

[Apex36]

Jay Clark seems to think we should be in the race for him.

Hine was big on him in his draft year iirc

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[legendstatus]

Not totally sold on the Kings, reckon paying overs would hurt us, Georgie boy I’d look at, reckon he is the type of player that could transition to a solid running defender

Next 2-3 years we’ll see the end of Howe, Pendles, Sidey, Cox and WHE which will help us structure big contracts like a King or Parish etc.


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[Go Woods]

Ben King is the one to get.

Yep, if he is in the frame and entertaining our overtures, we need to be all guns blazing.
The dynasty sides of the past 25 years all had a gun key forward.

 

[Jen2310]

Yep, if he is in the frame and entertaining our overtures, we need to be all guns blazing.
The dynasty sides of the past 25 years all had a gun key forward.

I'm on the view with the way we play. I'm not convinced its a necessity - we are't struggling to score. But either way. its not an option for another 18 months, if he doesn't re-sign by mid 2024

 

[magpies42]

How did we let somebody like Ned Moyle go to Gold Coast, might be speaking too soon. But he played very well in the VFL…and given we knew we’d be short a ruck he could have been a great back up.

Now we have nothing!

 

[Kirby]

How did we let somebody like Ned Moyle go to Gold Coast, might be speaking too soon. But he played very well in the VFL…and given we knew we’d be short a ruck he could have been a great back up.

Now we have nothing!

He was never ours to begin with. We chose Johnson over him in the MSD and it's hard to argue that this wasn't the right call.

If we had the next pick I'm sure we would have taken him.

 

[jonbe54]

I'm on the view with the way we play. I'm not convinced its a necessity - we are't struggling to score. But either way. its not an option for another 18 months, if he doesn't re-sign by mid 2024

Agreed we don't need to hamstring our cap again for a player that may not be an absolute necessity.

We have a balanced and flexible list again (finally) and are winning a lot of games with playbook that is not dependant on crash and bash full forward.

 

[sr36]

I'm on the view with the way we play. I'm not convinced its a necessity - we are't struggling to score. But either way. its not an option for another 18 months, if he doesn't re-sign by mid 2024

As well as cap, he'd cost a bomb in terms of trade. I think we've got the cattle to be in the running for flags and should be future planning with our trade capital, rather than trying to load up for the short term. If we're looking for improved cattle in the short term, I'd stick exclusively to FA and looking for bargains to fill holes.

 

[RobJD]

He was never ours to begin with. We chose Johnson over him in the MSD and it's hard to argue that this wasn't the right call.

If we had the next pick I'm sure we would have taken him.

I thought the Gold Coast picked him beofre our pick - I thought he was gone before we had a chance to get him.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Uncapped Suns ruckman being chased by “at least six clubs”

“He has a number of clubs pursuing him.”

www.sen.com.au

Move to Begg to the backline and leave Steene to develop as a ruckman.

Moyle takes over from Cox next year.

 

[jonbe54]

Uncapped Suns ruckman being chased by “at least six clubs”

“He has a number of clubs pursuing him.”

www.sen.com.au

Move to Begg to the backline and leave Steene to develop as a ruckman.

Moyle takes over from Cox next year.

Cap is the key - it comes down to how much Moyle will cost cap wise.

 

[sr36]

Uncapped Suns ruckman being chased by “at least six clubs”

“He has a number of clubs pursuing him.”

www.sen.com.au

Move to Begg to the backline and leave Steene to develop as a ruckman.

Moyle takes over from Cox next year.

Don't think he'd take over from Cox. We need a forward threat for that, unless he's good enough to push DC out of first ruck and put DC back into being forward/second ruck.

 

[Apex36]

Cap is the key - it comes down to how much Moyle will cost cap wise.

It doesn’t matter how many clubs are chasing him, an uncapped ruckman isn’t going to command a significant portion of the cap.

 

[Jen2310]

It'll be more about opportunity for Moyle than anything $ wise.

 

[sr36]

It'll be more about opportunity for Moyle than anything $ wise.

Yep. But as he's not a forward/ruck, he'd need to be viewed ahead of DC as first ruck to be poached by us. I don't think it's likely.

 

[Jen2310]

Yep. But as he's not a forward/ruck, he'd need to be viewed ahead of DC as first ruck to be poached by us. I don't think it's likely.

Yeah, he needs to keep honing his forward craft, as atm he is ruck only.

 

[Bianconeri]

I think our last two games show’s us exactly why we need to invest more in the forwardline.

 

[Kappa]

I think our last two games show’s us exactly why we need to invest more in the forwardline.

We already did, it was a massive 4 year deal called McStay.

 

[Bianconeri]

We already did, it was a massive 4 year deal called McStay.

I wouldn’t call that deal massive.

 

[Kappa]

I wouldn’t call that deal massive.

4 years, he was well paid at Brisbane... you reckon he moved across the country without getting a pay rise?

 

[Bianconeri]

4 years, he was well paid at Brisbane... you reckon he moved across the country without getting a pay rise?

I think the figures that have been reported aren’t massive. He’s not a 7 year deal north of a million per year.

 

[Kappa]

I think the figures that have been reported aren’t massive. He’s not a 7 year deal north of a million per year.

According to the media around 600k for five years.

That is a massive deal, you can't deny that.

 

[Ugene41]

I wouldn’t call that deal massive.

It's massively overpaying for his output in his career so far.

Would be a travesty is he's being paid more than Mihocek who's twice the player.