List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

[danielnajdek]

We have 8 players currently 30+, and 2 who’ll be 30 next year.
BNE have 12.

If Brisbane have 12 how many do Geelong have? 22?

 

[SchuPie]

Mackie struggled to offer us pick 25 for OOC Ollie -- for in contract Holmes, you can bet they'll make it as hard as possible lol If the rumours are true that he wants to leave.

Pick 25 is my final offer!

 

[nasi175]

The HUN is reporting it, as is Fox. Sudden shift for sure.

Unlikely that Port have the trade and draft capital to make all the proposed moves in off season. Clear need in backine

 

[nasi175]

We desperately need more midfield depth.

Mitchell Pendlebury Sidebottom Adams will continue to fall away next year and could struggle big time.

Lipinksi hasn't come on as hoped.

All our eggs are in the Daicos/De Goey basket, we need more depth.

As this happens our cap will also open up. Our biggest issue is a KPF and KPB. Midfield is the easiest position to fill immediately. Daicos is a generational talent that has fallen in our lap. We will build around the marvel part 3

 

[Kappa]

As this happens our cap will also open up. Our biggest issue is a KPF and KPB. Midfield is the easiest position to fill immediately. Daicos is a generational talent that has fallen in our lap. We will build around the marvel part 3

Mihocek and McStay is enough tall forwards for now, with Cox/Cameron/Johnson the depth.

KPD is okay with Moore Murphy and Frampton the depth.

Midfield is the #1 issue by far imo. Pendles and Mitchell will struggle next year.

 

[No SPIN]

Two are turning 30 this month. I counted them as 30. It’s 10.

Yes - it’s 10 just like my post explained.

 

[swoop42]

We have 8 players currently 30+, and 2 who’ll be 30 next year.
BNE have 12.

The age of the Brisbane side who played this weekend was on average 19 months younger than ours.

Clearly not as reliant just yet on the over 30's for their best 23.

 

[Harry O]

Yup, I like him. Howe successor.

Don’t think he is anything like Howe. Similar height but plays nowhere near as tall as Howe.

 

[No SPIN]

The age of the Brisbane side who played this weekend was on average 19 months younger than ours.

Clearly not as reliant just yet on the over 30's for their best 23.

I think we’re splitting hairs - I was surprised seeing 12 on their list who’ll be aged 30 and over next year.

 

[Jen2310]

Don’t think he is anything like Howe. Similar height but plays nowhere near as tall as Howe.

Murphy goes into Howes role and Ryan takes Murphys?


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[Harry O]

Unlikely that Port have the trade and draft capital to make all the proposed moves in off season. Clear need in backine

They will probably trade out someone like Duursma to a club silly enough to pay a price for him

 

[Harry O]

Murphy goes into Howes role and Ryan takes Murphys?


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Not sure. Don’t get me wrong. Don’t mind Ryan but he would project as more likely to play the sort of role WHE played against Melbourne

 

[Jen2310]

Not sure. Don’t get me wrong. Don’t mind Ryan but he would project as more likely to play the sort of role WHE played against Melbourne

In his draft year he did say he models his game off Sicily. Do we see those kind of traits?


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[swoop42]

I think we’re splitting hairs - I was surprised seeing 12 on their list who’ll be aged 30 and over next year.

From the game on the weekend Brisbane had 4 players above 30, 1 player who'll turn 30 after the season ends and 3 who turn 30 during next season.

For Collingwood it was 8 players above 30, 1 who'll turn 30 before the season is finished and 1 who turns 30 after the season ends.

We're old though the average age of 28y1m against Melbourne is still 6 months younger than the Geelong Premiership side of 2022.

 

[nasi175]

If Mac

Mihocek and McStay is enough tall forwards for now, with Cox/Cameron/Johnson the depth.

KPD is okay with Moore Murphy and Frampton the depth.

Midfield is the #1 issue by far imo. Pendles and Mitchell will stru

Mihocek and McStay is enough tall forwards for now, with Cox/Cameron/Johnson the depth.

KPD is okay with Moore Murphy and Frampton the depth.

Midfield is the #1 issue by far imo. Pendles and Mitchell will struggle next year.

Agree that that will have a reduced influence. But think they need to b managed and we need to bring Fin Reef and Allan through. Big call on both Mitchell and Pendles. Pendles was huge in last quarter on Thurs night.

 

[Mick F]

Don’t think he is anything like Howe. Similar height but plays nowhere near as tall as Howe.

Some blokes like Howe, Pendlebury and Kouta don’t come around every year.

The defensive mix will be different when Howe and Pendles retire at the end of this year (or next). Ryan, Dean, Frampton and Markov may feature.

 

[Cyclops]

Apparently Fly is very happy with F McRae (no relative AFAIK), he said in an interview they meet more often than almost any other player (I'm guessing Moore as captain has the most meetings).

He said they meet pretty much weekly (i think he said they've assured him of his worth the club or words to that effect) so I think Fly has great faith there. I think Fin had 8 tackles in his 2 quarters or so hes played its clear so i think we can see what they're excited about.

 

[legendstatus]

We’ll have another tilt at the flag with money ball picks then we need to trade/Draft hard we a clean out not far away

 

[Kappa]

If Mac


Agree that that will have a reduced influence. But think they need to b managed and we need to bring Fin Reef and Allan through. Big call on both Mitchell and Pendles. Pendles was huge in last quarter on Thurs night.

Reef and Allan as AFL midfielders is wishful thinking at this stage. Both look a while off.

 

[danielnajdek]

We’ll have another tilt at the flag with money ball picks then we need to trade/Draft hard we a clean out not far away

Can't afford to have a full rebuild though when we have Nick. Can't waste away what we have with him.

 

[SchuPie]

2023
- Moir: draft
2024
- Callaghan (GWS) / Holmes (Cats) - trade
2025
- Cadman / Similar

If you're lucky or push your chips in, the age demo / list profile can change pretty quickly

 

[KinderSmock]

2023
- Moir: draft
2024
- Callaghan (GWS) / Holmes (Cats) - trade
2025
- Cadman / Similar

If you're lucky or push your chips in, the age demo / list profile can change pretty quickly

I suspect in 2024 we'll see Naughton and Clark land, Holmes maybe another to join us.

Callaghan is under contract until 2025. Much better to target him in that year. GWS will sign Cadman sooner. I've met Cadman he's a very relaxed bloke. If you didn't know he was from the country, you'd think he was from a beach side surf town.

 

[Bianconeri]

Adams needs to be making way for Fin next year.

Why? Finn can’t play off the half forward flank like Adams.

More likely a Reef, Harrison, Ginnivan, Allan or Carmichael displace Adams. It’s even more likely that Adams just keeps his spot.

 

[soreplums]

- Moir: draft
2024
- Callaghan (GWS) / Holmes (Cats) - trade
2025
- Cadman / Similar

If you're lucky or push your chips in, the age demo / list profile can change pretty quickly

I wouldn’t be surprised if we landed all of Callaghan, Holmes and Naughton.

 

[Mick F]

I wouldn’t be surprised if we landed all of Callaghan, Holmes and Naughton.

Whilst salary cap will be opening up, we don’t have much trade capital.