List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

[nasi175]

Other clubs OOC, I wouldn't think there is too much of interest in this group.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2023-every-player-outofcontract-at-each-club/news-story/8e03292a9198c86a0cd46282f4fe6fb6

That Carlton list is terrible. Unfortunately, they may get stronger if they get rid of the majority of that list.

 

[KinderSmock]

Reef and Allan as AFL midfielders is wishful thinking at this stage. Both look a while off.

Reef as a midfielder is optimistic - best position is forward. Allan is good, will likely debut next year.

 

[Jen2310]

Reef as a midfielder is optimistic - best position is forward. Allan is good, will likely debut next year.

I can see Reef being a 60/40 forward mid moving forward if he builds his tank in the off season. Has shown a few good signs late in the season.

 

[brockbruiser]

Have heard that Ruscoe will likely end up at Freo as a delisted free agent.

 

[Apex36]

Id play Pendlebury there every day of the week. Drop Adams completely.

Adams was equal second in the league for goal assists this season, and Pendles has always been a below average forward. That would be a terrible move.

 

[OniAu]

Adams was equal second in the league for goal assists this season, and Pendles has always been a below average forward. That would be a terrible move.

Wouldnt say Adams isnt a below average forward , rather have pendles leading out and delivering in than Adams. Easy to have the numbers if you are constantly plonked there

 

[Apex36]

Wouldnt say Adams isnt a below average forward , rather have pendles leading out and delivering in than Pendles. Easy to have the numbers if you are constantly plonked there

Mate you’re taking the piss. Getting top 2 in the league for any stat isn’t easy, regardless of where you get “plonked”.

 

[OniAu]

Mate you’re taking the piss. Getting top 2 in the league for any stat isn’t easy, regardless of where you get “plonked”.

Yikes you get uptight over nothing

Hes averaging 1.1 over 23 games , hardly a ground breaking stat

Stats aside , as you are hanging your hat on that clearly. He is a momentum killer in general play. Takes an extra 1/2 a second than other players and gets tied up , or makes the wrong decision. Or over shoots his skill ability with the kicks he takes.

The whole idea of moving him out of the 22 , is i dont think he offers enough to warrant losing a 20 something mid to another team through lack of opportunity , when adams isnt in our best week after week and nearing the end of his career.

 

[Harry O]

Who are you pushing to the half forward flank to give Fin those midfield minutes then?

I would introduce Finlay to the team from next year as a tagger. Showed in round 24 he is a good tackler, and he can run well.
Good option to take a Lachie Neale type where required

 

[OniAu]

Adams was equal second in the league for goal assists this season, and Pendles has always been a below average forward. That would be a terrible move.

There you go Bruce Apex McAvaney , enjoy your stats.

 

[Rusty Beam]

I’d have a look at Jordon from Melb

Yep, said that a few weeks ago

He’d be a good get at 22 years of age. Especially with Sidey coming to the end.

I also wonder whether we have an interest in Blake Coleman who is OOC.

Obviously hasn’t had any exposure at AFL level yet, and I know there are question marks, but we did bid on him in the draft so Hine obviously liked him as a junior.

 

[piemad1]

Yikes you get uptight over nothing

Hes averaging 1.1 over 23 games , hardly a ground breaking stat

Stats aside , as you are hanging your hat on that clearly. He is a momentum killer in general play. Takes an extra 1/2 a second than other players and gets tied up , or makes the wrong decision. Or over shoots his skill ability with the kicks he takes.

The whole idea of moving him out of the 22 , is i dont think he offers enough to warrant losing a 20 something mid to another team through lack of opportunity , when adams isnt in our best week after week and nearing the end of his career.

100% correct!

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

I am a little concerned that the other top teams seem to be into someone to improve weaknesses, and we remain pretty quiet. Can’t just tread water.

I mean, we addressed all our weaknesses last off season

We also seemingly have Dean, Ed Allan, Macrae and McInnes ready to step up to fight for the same spots we added to to address said weaknesses

I wouldn’t be expecting us to do much outside the draft this off season

 

[Bianconeri]

I've also been told there is no real interest with Ruscoe and Bianco at this point.

Bit surprised Ruscoe not surprised on Bianco.

 

[No SPIN]

Yikes you get uptight over nothing

Hes averaging 1.1 over 23 games , hardly a ground breaking stat

Stats aside , as you are hanging your hat on that clearly. He is a momentum killer in general play. Takes an extra 1/2 a second than other players and gets tied up , or makes the wrong decision. Or over shoots his skill ability with the kicks he takes.

The whole idea of moving him out of the 22 , is i dont think he offers enough to warrant losing a 20 something mid to another team through lack of opportunity , when adams isnt in our best week after week and nearing the end of his career.

Mate are you serious?
The 1.1 stat is 2nd best in the Game - do you get the importance of that?
You can’t deride it as insignificant.

EDIT: No idea where you got 1.1 - his season average score involvements per game is 6.3 according to the AFL app.

 

[OniAu]

Mate are you serious?
The 1.1 stat is 2nd best in the Game - do you get the importance of that?
You can’t deride it as insignificant.

Ginnis averaging more goals and goal assists combined. On limited game time due to sub and games played.

Whole jist of my argument is for next year. Taylor Adams is not a forward option , he is being plonked there purely on the basis Mitchell is of more value in the in and under role.

I think its a wasted spot in the team if you are going to sit Adams in a role he isn't suited to and if we lost Henry last year due to opportunity ( obviously more so go home factor) then potentially Fin this year. Then we are managing out list badly.

Hes going at 4th in the GA total for season and equal 3rd for ga per game not 2nd

 

[No SPIN]

Ginnis averaging more goals and goal assists combined. On limited game time due to sub and games played.

Whole jist of my argument is for next year. Taylor Adams is not a forward option , he is being plonked there purely on the basis Mitchell is of more value in the in and under role.

I think its a wasted spot in the team if you are going to sit Adams in a role he isn't suited to and if we lost Henry last year due to opportunity ( obviously more so go home factor) then potentially Fin this year. Then we are managing out list badly.

Hes going at 4th in the GA total for season and equal 3rd for ga per game not 2nd

I edited my post - Adams averages 6.3 score involvements per game, this season. His inclusion therefore goes beyond the goals he kicks.

 

[OniAu]

I edited my post - Adams averages 6.3 score involvements per game, this season. His inclusion therefore goes beyond the goals he kicks.

Talking about GA not score involvements , Nick Daicos has more from playing half a year as a backmen

 

[Kappa]

I would introduce Finlay to the team from next year as a tagger. Showed in round 24 he is a good tackler, and he can run well.
Good option to take a Lachie Neale type where required

Neale is just about the only A grade midfielder that he would match up on.

Everyone else would either be too fast or too big.

 

[No SPIN]

Neale is just about the only A grade midfielder that he would match up on.

Everyone else would either be too fast or too big.

Plenty of A graders are shorter than Finn who’s 188cm.

 

[Kappa]

Plenty of A graders are shorter than Finn who’s 188cm.

Yeah and those ones are generally a lot faster than him.

 

[No SPIN]

Yeah and those ones are generally a lot faster than him.

So size is not the issue you thought it was.

 

[gouki88]

So size is not the issue you thought it was.

Did you read the post you replied to? Too big or too fast

 

[No SPIN]

Did you read the post you replied to? Too big or too fast

Kappa said Finn was small and slow in an earlier post. I was simply reiterating the point that size was not the issue he thought it was, with Finn being 188cm.

 

[Bianconeri]

Kappa said Finn was small and slow in an earlier post. I was simply reiterating the point that size was not the issue he thought it was, with Finn being 188cm.

There is more to size then just height