List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

[JLC]

T Browne reporting Bombers in box seat for Bobby Hill, Norf & Pies have registered their interest...

Far out.

Unlikely an indigenous player would nominate us over Essebdon.

However a first rounder does seem a bit steep.

How many players on our list would be worth two top 10 picks? How many would be worth onetop 10 pick? Thoughts.

 

[MagpieJoel]

Which big money players are changing teams? So far it's literally just been Cerra. It's not as if big money players are being exchanged a lot this season, so I would like to know how you're gauging our cap to be bursting.

Most clubs are waiting to find out what the cap will be going forward.

 

[Apex36]

Future 1st? Fck that!

Yeah if that’s what they’re asking then no way. The guy is worth a mid second, tops.

 

[Go Woods]

Far out.

Unlikely an indigenous player would nominate us over Essebdon.

However a first rounder does seem a bit steep.

How many players on our list would be worth two top 10 picks? How many would be worth onetop 10 pick? Thoughts.

Wouldn’t be trading our future 1st, pick 27 is fair deal imo.

 

[Jen2310]

Let Essendon have him.

 

[tranquilli lace]

Future 1st for Bobby Hill. C'mon who said that?

 

[SchuPie]

Maybe Melbournes future first, but even then you'd want something back.

I think mid 20s…max

 

[Copeland]

14 goals for 17 games doesn't scream the quality people are making out. But he is young, talented and can kick a screamer for sure.

No left foot

 

[Everybody Panic]

He's probably a victim of GWS's loaded midfield / small brigade and has been the medical sub a fair bit which limits his impact.

Has bags of talent though:



If it were a draftee within our grasp with that tape we'd be all over him, but now he comes with a mature body and 3 years in the system.

Who is GWS's loaded small forward? I'm not saying he doesn't have talent, but his stats are pretty poor. He does tackle though and I'd happily trade him in, but I don't think he's a high prio target, especially if GWS want anything earlier than 27.

 

[Gabbo64]

No. I wouldn't. If it was our future first it could be in the top 5.

yes, but would you let that slide a little to get Bobby. I mean, no matter what are we going to do bettter than Daicos, Hill and a sliding first next year.

 

[well left]

I’ve been pretty keen in this thread today to get Hill…… but not for a future 1st.

I’d do 27 and that’s all he is worth as a max.


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[HFF]

future first?
The valuation of players is out of hand

 

[Apex36]

yes, but would you let that slide a little to get Bobby. I mean, no matter what are we going to do bettter than Daicos, Hill and a sliding first next year.

And if that slide means we miss out on a high rated KPF? Is Hill worth that?

 

[Jen2310]

Talented small forward Bobby Hill wants out of Greater Western Sydney, with Essendon emerging as the front-runner to win his services.
Hill has officially requested a trade out of the Giants for compassionate reasons and is expected to be a Bomber, Hawk or Kangaroo next season.
Essendon has the most compelling offer in front of the 21-year-old, who would deliver Ben Rutten

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The Bombers missed out on Gold Coast’s Malcolm Rosas, who re-signed at the Suns, and were interested in former Crow and Tiger Tyson Stengle

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[Jen2310]

And if that slide means we miss out on a high rated KPF? Is Hill worth that?

There are some talented talls at the top end next year.

You don't trade a future 1st for a small forward. You draft them. I'd rather find one in the state league as a DFA or rookie. Not sacrificing another future 1st.

 

[anshell]

Pick 27 sounds about right for Hill.If that doesn’t satisfy GWS,then package it with Sier,or Thomas,or Cox.If they still say no,then forget it.He’s not worth a future first rounder.

 

[Gabbo64]

C’mon Jetta. Give Bobby a call.
I’d pay a future first for their second.

Maybe a future first for their future first. They should be a decent gap between them. I'm not saying do it, though.

 

[MagpieJoel]

There is no way you'd do it for a first rounder.

 

[HFF]

You don’t pay a first for a small forward ....especially one who isn’t a bonafide Star like an Eddie Betts

 

[Jen2310]

There is no way you'd do it for a first rounder.

Unless you were confident you would be at the top end of the ladder.

 

[Gabbo64]

And if that slide means we miss out on a high rated KPF? Is Hill worth that?

I'm not saying he is. I'm just asking the question. Besides, how many early pick talls actually make it.

 

[PieBeast]

Wouldn't even part with a second rounder for Hill, runs around looking exciting but his contribution amounts to sfa.

 

[Harry O]

The 2 other picks might be used to upgrade rookies (Noble and Ginnivan), opening up rookie spots, to be used to rookie some of the players we had to delist before the draft. Perhaps Cox, Lynch/Madgen/Rantall/Thomas..

Better taking the better players in national draft while they are available rather than risk them not being available in rookie draft

 

[Harry O]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET BOBBY HILL

He is an exciting talent but his 5 possessions per game are not exactly game changing

 

[partypie]

Who is GWS's loaded small forward? I'm not saying he doesn't have talent, but his stats are pretty poor. He does tackle though and I'd happily trade him in, but I don't think he's a high prio target, especially if GWS want anything earlier than 27.

It's more their glut of midfielders than small forwards.

Their small forward mix in recent years has been Greene, Perryman (more half forward), Daniels, Hill, Giles-Langdon (went to west coast this year), Bruhn (2021 draftee) and then they roll their (many) excess midfielders through the small forward spots. Coniglio played the first half of the season basically as a small forward. Green spends a big chunk of his game time in the forward line when he gets a game.